right.
Best regards,
Rich
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Regarding this:
* *CE mark*is replaced by *UK mark*.
Hmm. I wonder why the UK or any c
, and Norway are not in the EU but require the CE mark.
I was unable to find that the CE mark symbol has a copyright.
Best regards,
Rich
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.
This becomes especially problematic if a product is only marketed in, or
permitted in, the UK; not the EU.
Michael.
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they don’t trust manufacturer self-certification
I hold a different opinion.
UL was founded because the “Palace of Electricity” at the Columbian Exposition
in 1893 in Chicago kept catching fire. William Henry Merrill was hired by the
insurance underwriters to investigate the
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So their certification is a sort of 'whitewash', nothing more, if, as you say,
they bear no responsibility for the product actually being safe.
Best wishes
John Woodgate OOO-Own Opinions Only
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Of course the manufacturer is responsible for the design. Likely the
manufacturers are not trusted by the public. There is a long history, some
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Another way to look at it: the NRTLs are responsible for the work that they do,
which is primarily checking products against product safety standards. However,
for the manufacturer, complying only with the requirements of a product safety
standard may not be sufficient to field an adequately
So their certification is a sort of 'whitewash', nothing more, if, as
you say, they bear no responsibility for the product actually being safe.
Best wishes
John Woodgate OOO-Own Opinions Only
J M Woodgate and Associates www.woodjohn.uk
Rayleigh, Essex UK
On 2019-01-18 13:53, Schmidt, Mark
standards. Manufacturers are solely responsible for
compliance with EMC standards for NA.
-Dave
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: the manufacturer
is ultimately responsible for their product.
Mark
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That puts the responsibility for compliance
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That puts the responsibility for compliance on the laboratory. It seems logical
that the manufacturer should be responsible. Also, the lab
Wood
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Your summarization of the changes was very helpful. The replacement of th
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Ops should be “…the requirements of the EU are NOT all necessarily….”
Dennis Ward
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Just to clear up a bit of confusion (whilst staying well clear of politics)
The link given by Scott ie
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukdsi/2019/978076368/schedu
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* CE mark is replaced by UK mark.
Hmm. I wonder why the UK or any country can’t recognize the CE mark as
indicative of the relevant performance of the pr
This is an important issue. It's one thing for the UK to accept European
standards (ENs) /*as standards*, /but the European Court decision that
ENs are 'part of EU law' changes the picture considerably. If UK
continues to endorse ENs as BS ENs after the transition period, it is
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I suspect that only applies during the 'transition period', simply to
avoid an instant change in the requirements. If it were a permanent
arrangement, no 'UK Mark' would ever be required.
Best wishes
John Woodgate OOO-Own Opinions Only
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Rayleigh,
Andy answered my question in posting the reference:
Products that have undergone the complete process of manufacturing and
conformity assessment (i.e. which are ready for placing on the market) can
still be placed on the UK market with a CE Marking after 29 March 2019.
Rich
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The UK can and will recognize the CE Mark after Brexit (if and when),
but British manufactures will not be allowed to put it on their
products, because it is 'Conformité Européen'.
Best wishes
John Woodgate OOO-Own Opinions Only
J M Woodgate and Associates www.woodjohn.uk
Rayleigh, Essex UK
* CE mark is replaced by UK mark.
Hmm. I wonder why the UK or any country can’t recognize the CE mark as
indicative of the relevant performance of the product?
Rich
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Dear Charlie & Ian,
May I add some additional comments on the following.
Regards,
Dear Charlie & Ian,
May I add some additional comments on the following.
Regards,
Scott
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Ian
I think 'no deal' is very unlikely. The trouble is, that so are all the
other possibilities. ;-)
Best wishes
John Woodgate OOO-Own Opinions Only
J M Woodgate and Associates www.woodjohn.uk
Rayleigh, Essex UK
On 2019-01-16 13:56, Scott Xe wrote:
Hi Ian,
Your assumption is correct but may
Hi Ian,
Your assumption is correct but may have more than your thought. You can read
the following draft for greater detail.
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukdsi/2019/978076368/schedule/25
I have learnt that recently the UK government published draft Regulations of
619 pages in case of no
Ian
My understanding is:
* You only need a "representative" in the EU if required in the applicable
Directive(s), otherwise your importer in Germany only need to act as an
"importer"
* You will also have an issue with Notified Body certificates/opinions
issued from UK accredited NBs
Dear Ian,
There was an article from Susanne Wende from Noerr LLP regarding Brexit in the
latest issue of InCompliance Magazine:
https://incompliancemag.com/article/brexit-and-its-impact-on-market-access/
The article considers 3 different Brexit scenarios, main aspects are
·
We discussed this here only a few days ago. Yes, you need an authorized
representative within the EU.
Best wishes
John Woodgate OOO-Own Opinions Only
J M Woodgate and Associates www.woodjohn.uk
Rayleigh, Essex UK
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Dear Colleagues.
I have been waiting
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