[Emc-users] Spindle servo motor using 7i33

2010-05-05 Thread Leonardo Marsaglia
Hello everybody, Since months that i'm thinking about how to implement a Spindle and C axis using the same motor (like the commercial turning centers) in one of my lathes, and i want to share what i think, so if you can help me to understand i would be really thanked. My first doubt is, can i

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle servo motor using 7i33

2010-05-05 Thread Andy Pugh
On 5 May 2010 13:57, Leonardo Marsaglia leonardomarsagli...@gmail.com wrote: My first doubt is, can i use the spindle servo motor for positioning ? Yes. Because the driver that comes with the spidle servo that i can buy in my country, says that the only input is analog voltage. This is

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle servo motor using 7i33

2010-05-05 Thread Leonardo Marsaglia
Hello Andy, thanks a lot for your quick answer.. So let see if i'm thinking well.. I can use the same spindle servo motor as an positioning axis to make millings controlling it with analog voltage closing the loop in emc and then when required as a spindle motor , i was asking this because some

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle servo motor using 7i33

2010-05-05 Thread Andy Pugh
On 5 May 2010 15:03, Leonardo Marsaglia leonardomarsagli...@gmail.com wrote: I can use the same spindle servo motor as an positioning axis to make millings controlling it with analog voltage closing the loop in emc and then when required as a spindle motor Yes, assuming that the mechanical

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle servo motor using 7i33

2010-05-05 Thread John Kasunich
On Wed, 05 May 2010 11:03 -0300, Leonardo Marsaglia leonardomarsagli...@gmail.com wrote: I'm trying to understand this because my idea is to mill lobe shapes for making camshafts, and it would be very nice to make the roughing process with a mill. I'm trying to clear my doubts before

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle servo motor using 7i33

2010-05-05 Thread Leonardo Marsaglia
Thanks a lot for your help andy, you've really cleared my doubts. The last question is, do you think is necesary to home when i change from spindle to axis? or the index pulse itself gives me the warranty that i've never loose the real position?, because as you know the home sequence makes two

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle servo motor using 7i33

2010-05-05 Thread Leonardo Marsaglia
Hello john, Thanks for your explaination, i've forgotten to talk about the mechanical situation of the machine. I've always thought about using a worm gear reduction because it's farther more secure than direct pulley reduction, the only problem with the worm and gear is that the revolutions

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle servo motor using 7i33

2010-05-05 Thread Andy Pugh
On 5 May 2010 15:47, John Kasunich jmkasun...@fastmail.fm wrote: Just because a particular motor works well driving the spindle in lathe mode does NOT mean it will be even close to good enough for direct drive positioning. A good point, I have only been discussing what is technically possible

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle servo motor using 7i33

2010-05-05 Thread Leonardo Marsaglia
hello andy, very nice explaination, i was thiking about using spindle-synchronised motion a few months ago, but didn't know if it was possible, Do you think that if i use a cam software with the emc2 post, i could shape the lobe using the spindle as a spindle in synchronised motion? That would

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle servo motor using 7i33

2010-05-05 Thread Stuart Stevenson
Gentlemen, I have zero experience with these machines. I have watched machines such as this. It appeared to me as if the spindle 'changed' gears between the turning and milling operations. I assumed a worm drive was engaged/disengaged for the different cutting requirements. Just saying. Stuart On

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle servo motor using 7i33

2010-05-05 Thread Leonardo Marsaglia
Yes i think stuart is right, sometime ago in a similar discussion someone told me the same, the there are two different motors for turning or milling. Well, the only question left then is if i can use spindle synchronised motion, at very low speed (10 rpm or less), and a mill in the X axis to

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle servo motor using 7i33

2010-05-05 Thread Andy Pugh
On 5 May 2010 17:45, Leonardo Marsaglia leonardomarsagli...@gmail.com wrote: Do you think that if i use a cam software with the emc2 post, i could shape the lobe using the spindle as a spindle in synchronised motion? I think so. I suspect that you would need a specially written CAM to generate

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle servo motor using 7i33

2010-05-05 Thread Leonardo Marsaglia
So andy, you think that with G33 i will have the wait for the index pulse as if i'm doing a regular thread along the Z axis? and because of that it wouldn't be quite right for making lobes..because the movement won't be continuous Correct me if i didn't understand Regards. 2010/5/5 Andy Pugh

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle servo motor using 7i33

2010-05-05 Thread Andy Pugh
On 5 May 2010 19:00, Leonardo Marsaglia leonardomarsagli...@gmail.com wrote: So andy, you think that with G33 i will have the wait for the index pulse as if i'm doing a regular thread along the Z axis? and because of that it wouldn't be quite right for making lobes..because the movement won't

[Emc-users] Function keys not... functioning.

2010-05-05 Thread Neil Baylis
Is there anything I need to configure to make the function keys (in Axis GUI) work? When I hit the function keys, e.g. F1, F2 nothing happens. The function keys work in emacs, so I know it's possible. I'm using the Ubuntu 8.04 live CD install of EMC2, downloaded from the linuxcnc website.

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle servo motor using 7i33

2010-05-05 Thread Leonardo Marsaglia
I understand the most of your idea and it seems to be good, but i don't have clear if i should use the spindle in rpm mode, or as rotary axis in degree mode... because my first idea was to use 2 axis ... one rotary and the second linear, like a normal mill. Another question would be... how can i

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle servo motor using 7i33

2010-05-05 Thread Andy Pugh
On 5 May 2010 19:49, Leonardo Marsaglia leonardomarsagli...@gmail.com wrote: I understand the most of your idea and it seems to be good, but i don't have clear if i should use the spindle in rpm mode, or as rotary axis in degree mode... because my first idea was to use 2 axis ... one rotary

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle servo motor using 7i33

2010-05-05 Thread Leonardo Marsaglia
Thank you guys for your answers, you were very helpful.. I will explain what i decided to do... the idea is to make the X axis of the lathe to be a mill and the spindle will be turned with a servo motor reduced several times to increase torque (probably with a worm and gear to make impossible

Re: [Emc-users] anyone interested in a Hardinge SuperSlant lathe as a conversion project?

2010-05-05 Thread Leonardo Marsaglia
Nice machine, but i have 2 lathes waiting for a retrofiting here.. if you ever have a machining center or a cnc milling for retrofiting please let me know because i'm interested.. better if they are for heavy dutty. Good luck with the sale! Regards. 2010/5/5 Steve Stallings steve...@newsguy.com

Re: [Emc-users] anyone interested in a Hardinge SuperSlant lathe as a conversion project?

2010-05-05 Thread Wes Johnson
Steve, What is wrong with the lathe that requires a retrofit? What control does it currently have? -Wes -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net

Re: [Emc-users] Need help configuring Home

2010-05-05 Thread Jon Elson
Neil Baylis wrote: Note: I tried monitoring the axis.0.home-sw-in with Halmeter, but it never changes. Also, when I use Halmeter to monitor the limit switch, that never changes either, even though it is changing on TkEMC. Something I don't understand about using Halmeter, I guess. In your

Re: [Emc-users] Function keys not... functioning.

2010-05-05 Thread Jon Elson
Neil Baylis wrote: Is there anything I need to configure to make the function keys (in Axis GUI) work? When I hit the function keys, e.g. F1, F2 nothing happens. The function keys work in emacs, so I know it's possible. I'm using the Ubuntu 8.04 live CD install of EMC2, downloaded from the

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle servo motor using 7i33

2010-05-05 Thread BRIAN GLACKIN
Very much an outsider on this subject, but i recall recently a link here or on another forum in which someone was using a lathe as the C axis with a milling head on the X axis instead of traditional lathe tooling. The X axis was very fast and would follow a programmed profile coordinated with

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle servo motor using 7i33

2010-05-05 Thread Dave
Just a thought, but you might be able to use the Nurbs function to do the cam profile creation for you also. I think it is G5.2 or something similar. There is a butterfly demo program in the sample code that utilizes that. Dave On 5/5/2010 5:35 PM, Leonardo Marsaglia wrote: Thank you guys

Re: [Emc-users] Function keys not... functioning.

2010-05-05 Thread Neil Baylis
Well, the Dell keyboard worked. So then I did what I should have done in the first place: ask the Google! Turns out, there's a magic incantation you can do to make the function keys of an Apple keyboard work correctly under Ubuntu: First you have to edit the file /etc/modprobe.d/options, add

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle servo motor using 7i33

2010-05-05 Thread Leonardo Marsaglia
I read something about nurbs implementation in emc, i need to catch up with that! 2010/5/5 Dave e...@dc9.tzo.com Just a thought, but you might be able to use the Nurbs function to do the cam profile creation for you also. I think it is G5.2 or something similar. There is a butterfly demo