Re: [Emc-users] Motion control cards

2011-04-23 Thread Mark Wendt (Contractor)
On 4/22/2011 5:26 PM, Robert Pabon wrote: Man my head is starting to spin! No wonder people just go with steppers and call it a day. Maybe my vision is clouded by ignorance but it doesn't seem like it should be that hard to pick up a brushless DC motor, a suitable amp and make it work.

Re: [Emc-users] Motion control cards

2011-04-23 Thread Dave
On 4/23/2011 6:57 AM, Mark Wendt (Contractor) wrote: On 4/22/2011 5:26 PM, Robert Pabon wrote: Man my head is starting to spin! No wonder people just go with steppers and call it a day. Maybe my vision is clouded by ignorance but it doesn't seem like it should be that hard to pick

Re: [Emc-users] Motion control cards

2011-04-23 Thread gene heskett
On Saturday, April 23, 2011 10:05:00 AM Dave did opine: On 4/23/2011 6:57 AM, Mark Wendt (Contractor) wrote: On 4/22/2011 5:26 PM, Robert Pabon wrote: Man my head is starting to spin! No wonder people just go with steppers and call it a day. Maybe my vision is clouded by ignorance but it

Re: [Emc-users] Motion control cards

2011-04-23 Thread Robert Pabon
Yeah, the 80v is the only real downer for me as well but everything else looks good. The PWM command eliminates the need for a pwn to analog conversion card so that is good. cost wise I am waiting on a final answer but they are cheap. My budget is minimal and I am trying to do champagne on a

Re: [Emc-users] Motion control cards

2011-04-23 Thread dave
On Sat, 2011-04-23 at 06:57 -0400, Mark Wendt (Contractor) wrote: On 4/22/2011 5:26 PM, Robert Pabon wrote: Man my head is starting to spin! No wonder people just go with steppers and call it a day. Maybe my vision is clouded by ignorance but it doesn't seem like it should be that hard to

Re: [Emc-users] Motion control cards

2011-04-23 Thread Robert Pabon
Mark, It isn't that dire, I don't think. I just think that there are a lot of nuances and compromises. I think if you are willing to live with some compromises it isn't that bad, but then again I am just getting started. Here is my understanding of what I need so far: A PC to run EMC. I will

Re: [Emc-users] Motion control cards

2011-04-23 Thread Dave
I am trying to do champagne on a soda budget You are not alone. :-) I am looking at about $70 per axis for those amps. That is really cheap. How much power or torque do you need? There was a guy selling brushless drives and motors out of Canada (Vancouver?) for a while on Ebay and his

Re: [Emc-users] Motion control cards

2011-04-23 Thread gene heskett
On Saturday, April 23, 2011 11:13:32 AM Robert Pabon did opine: Yeah, the 80v is the only real downer for me as well but everything else looks good. The PWM command eliminates the need for a pwn to analog conversion card so that is good. cost wise I am waiting on a final answer but they are

Re: [Emc-users] Motion control cards

2011-04-23 Thread Dave
Mach3 works ok for open loop if you don't modify it. If you do..start doing macros, etc you will spend an inordinate amount of time overcoming bugs, and undocumented features.It can be a real time eater working around issues. And oftentimes things will pop up out of no where and bite you

Re: [Emc-users] Motion control cards

2011-04-23 Thread Robert Pabon
I ran my numbers through a calculator and I needed 38 ounce inches on each axis. That was using some pretty high numbers for my table weights and speeds for my little smithy machine. I think I gave myself 150lbs on the table to account for a tool turret in the future. My motors are rated for

Re: [Emc-users] Motion control cards

2011-04-23 Thread Robert Pabon
Thanks gene, but I actually want to do the closed loop bldc/ac route for the learning experience. I guess I always have the stepper route if I manage to really much things up! --- On Sat, 4/23/11, gene heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: From: gene heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com Subject: Re:

Re: [Emc-users] Motion control cards

2011-04-23 Thread Mark Wendt (Contractor)
On 4/23/2011 11:12 AM, dave wrote: Okay, I'm getting a bit overwhelmed here too. I'm currently using steppers on my saw beveler, but have future thoughts of upgrading to a servo based system. So, if what Robert shows as necessary, for one axis I'd need a servo, an amp, a driver, a bunch of

Re: [Emc-users] Axis enable pins

2011-04-23 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Fri, 2011-04-22 at 16:02 +0100, Kev James wrote: Just got to test it. X-axis is working fine but I don't seem to be getting any power to the y/z outputs. I have assigned amplifier enable to the three enable pins for the three axes. I get about 1.5v across A/!A and B/!B for the X axis, but

Re: [Emc-users] Motion control cards

2011-04-23 Thread andy pugh
On 23 April 2011 16:14, Robert Pabon robertpa...@corseusa.com wrote: If I choose an amp which requires a sinusoidal signal, I am not sure what to do since I haven't shopped for an available The only amp I know of which requires a sinusoidal input (or three PWMs) is the Mesa 7i39. However,

Re: [Emc-users] Motion control cards

2011-04-23 Thread Robert Pabon
I'm not sure I follow. What I was referring to was something like this amp: http://www.a-m-c.com/download/datasheet/sx25a20.pdf Which requires two sine waves with a 120 degree phase shift. The phase angle corresponds to motor angle and the amplitude corresponds to torque. My understanding of

Re: [Emc-users] Motion control cards

2011-04-23 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Sat, 2011-04-23 at 07:49 -0700, Robert Pabon wrote: Yeah, the 80v is the only real downer for me as well but everything else looks good. The PWM command eliminates the need for a pwn to analog conversion card so that is good. cost wise I am waiting on a final answer but they are cheap. My

Re: [Emc-users] Motion control cards

2011-04-23 Thread Dave
On 4/23/2011 2:52 PM, Kirk Wallace wrote: On Sat, 2011-04-23 at 07:49 -0700, Robert Pabon wrote: Yeah, the 80v is the only real downer for me as well but everything else looks good. The PWM command eliminates the need for a pwn to analog conversion card so that is good. cost wise I am

Re: [Emc-users] Motion control cards

2011-04-23 Thread Jon Elson
On 4/22/2011 5:26 PM, Robert Pabon wrote: Servo dynamics recommends the 1224-BLS driver for this motor. The 1224BL is the comparable amp: http://www.servodynamics.com/Specs/1224bl_spec.pdf Servo dynamics says I am fine driving with either sinusoidal or trapezoidal. Ah, well then

[Emc-users] typical parport settings

2011-04-23 Thread forget color
CMOS battery died on my EMC pc and I lost my bios settings. IIRC, I want the parallel port on EPP? and all power saving off... is there anything else I'm forgetting in a typical setup? thanks! fg -- Fulfilling the

Re: [Emc-users] Motion control cards

2011-04-23 Thread Robert Pabon
I already have the BLDC servos so I am headed down that path already ;) --- On Sat, 4/23/11, Dave e...@dc9.tzo.com wrote: From: Dave e...@dc9.tzo.com Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Motion control cards To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Date: Saturday, April 23,

Re: [Emc-users] typical parport settings

2011-04-23 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Sat, 2011-04-23 at 15:15 -0500, forget color wrote: CMOS battery died on my EMC pc and I lost my bios settings. IIRC, I want the parallel port on EPP? ... snip You only need EPP if you want to run an EPP type device on the port, such as an FPGA hardware signal generator-I/O board. Just