[Emc-users] Jog speed excedes axis max velocity

2011-10-31 Thread Frank Tkalcevic
I'm having a problem with my Z axis config. I have the max velocity for that axis set to 13 (mm/sec) which is 780 mm/min (slowed down until I tune it). If I do a G0, it moves at 780. However, if I jog (z axis only), it tries to run at 4800mm/min which is the max velocity of the x/y axis. This

Re: [Emc-users] pain in the $#%

2011-10-31 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Mon, 2011-10-31 at 02:18 -0300, Leonardo Marsaglia wrote: Didn't know that! Since the machine works well we've never cared too much, also the machine is only used for positioning movements, and it's not working with interpolation of axes. Anyway, when I can I'll be replacing the

Re: [Emc-users] pain in the $#%

2011-10-31 Thread gene heskett
On Monday, October 31, 2011 03:49:31 AM Leonardo Marsaglia did opine: Didn't know that! Since the machine works well we've never cared too much, also the machine is only used for positioning movements, and it's not working with interpolation of axes. Anyway, when I can I'll be replacing the

Re: [Emc-users] Jog speed excedes axis max velocity

2011-10-31 Thread Viesturs Lācis
Hello! My apologies for not answering Your question, I would like to ask, if You could explain in more detail, how does this thing work: AUTO_WORLD_AFTER_HOMEALL=1 I have been trying to implement automatic switching to world mode after all joints are homed, but those attempts have been

Re: [Emc-users] pain in the $#%

2011-10-31 Thread John Thornton
You will only get the message once per session even if you have latency problems all day long... John On 10/30/2011 6:53 PM, Leonardo Marsaglia wrote: I have the same behaviour on a machine running steppers even with a mesa 5i20 for the step generation. The problem anyway shows everytime I

Re: [Emc-users] pain in the $#%

2011-10-31 Thread Leonardo Marsaglia
Hello everybody, I just ran the latency test and the jitter of the servo thread was 800,000 ns!!!. Hopefully the machine is only used to position the grinding wheel joint and the part joint, one axis at the time. I've never tried using the parport to run the steppers, it was directly connected

Re: [Emc-users] Jog speed excedes axis max velocity

2011-10-31 Thread Tom Easterday
On Oct 31, 2011, at 1:34 AM, Frank Tkalcevic wrote: I'm having a problem with my Z axis config. I have the max velocity for that axis set to 13 (mm/sec) which is 780 mm/min (slowed down until I tune it). If I do a G0, it moves at 780. However, if I jog (z axis only), it tries to run at

Re: [Emc-users] pain in the $#%

2011-10-31 Thread kqt4at5v
I've had good luck with software step generation on the Intel Atom boards. The latest MW525 boards seem to work well.If you combine a MW525 board with a Step generation device like the Mesa 7i43 or a Pico board, then you should be in really good shape. :-) Keep in mind that you may

Re: [Emc-users] Jog speed excedes axis max velocity

2011-10-31 Thread andy pugh
On 31 October 2011 12:48, Tom Easterday tom-...@bgp.nu wrote: I suspect it has to do with having defined 6 coordinates and then you have 8 axis sections below. I don't think EMC2 itself will even notice the [AXIS_X] etc tags, I assume that they are for use by the HAL file only. I assume that

Re: [Emc-users] pain in the $#%

2011-10-31 Thread andy pugh
On 31 October 2011 12:32, Leonardo Marsaglia leonardomarsagli...@gmail.com wrote: As happened with Kirk, I think the latency increased with the upgrade to ubuntu 10.04, since there was no latency error before, Is it possible that you had applied the SMI patch previously, and lost that with

Re: [Emc-users] Anyone wants to buy a NON-working Anca Fastgrind CNC TC grinder really cheap?

2011-10-31 Thread Igor Chudov
On Sat, Oct 29, 2011 at 11:52 AM, Kirk Wallace kwall...@wallacecompany.comwrote: On Sat, 2011-10-29 at 10:46 -0500, Igor Chudov wrote: In addition to my metalworking hobby, I buy and sell surplus industrial equipment. I am a spekulant i I suppose you have thought about doing controller

Re: [Emc-users] pain in the $#%

2011-10-31 Thread andy pugh
On 31 October 2011 13:19, kqt4a...@comcast.net wrote: One really irritating point is if I leave EMC up over night Some times I want to pause a long running job and continue the next day If I leave EMC up over night the next day it has the Unexpected realtime error so I have to shut down EMC

Re: [Emc-users] pain in the $#%

2011-10-31 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 31.10.11 09:32, Leonardo Marsaglia wrote: Unfortunately most of the new motherboards come with 1 pci connector, and industrial range motherboards are very expensive. It's getting hard to find suitable motherboards with enough pci connectors, because it's good to have at least two to use a

Re: [Emc-users] pain in the $#%

2011-10-31 Thread andy pugh
On 31 October 2011 13:36, Erik Christiansen dva...@internode.on.net wrote: That can be overcome. A 1-2 PCI expander costs almost nothing, and usually folds the peripheral cards flat over the motherboard, As a caution, I bought two different riser cards for my D510 and they both stopped the

Re: [Emc-users] Anyone wants to buy a NON-working Anca Fastgrind CNC TC grinder really cheap?

2011-10-31 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Mon, 2011-10-31 at 08:35 -0500, Igor Chudov wrote: ... snip There is a late 1980s CNC milling machine that I will be looking at today, with a controller conversion in mind. I would like, perhaps, to join forces with some local CNC controller business. I could supply machines and capital,

[Emc-users] Spindle motor

2011-10-31 Thread Viesturs Lācis
Hello, gentlemen! I need a 2 kW spindle motor and appropriate VFD drive for a wood router. I found a seller from Italy on eBay: http://www.ebay.it/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=310217944560ssPageName=ADME:X:RTQ:IT:1123 But they are not responding for a week now, so I should find them

Re: [Emc-users] pain in the $#%

2011-10-31 Thread Leonardo Marsaglia
Andy, I'm reading about the SMI patch right now. I installed a clean copy of the ubuntu 10.04 live cd with emc 2.4.3 and I really don't know if this one comes already patched, even more this is the first time I read about the patch. I've been really busy between college and work and didn't have

Re: [Emc-users] pain in the $#%

2011-10-31 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Mon, 2011-10-31 at 13:34 +, andy pugh wrote: On 31 October 2011 13:19, kqt4a...@comcast.net wrote: One really irritating point is if I leave EMC up over night Some times I want to pause a long running job and continue the next day. If I leave EMC up over night the next day it has

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle motor

2011-10-31 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Mon, 2011-10-31 at 18:31 +0200, Viesturs Lācis wrote: Hello, gentlemen! I need a 2 kW spindle motor and appropriate VFD drive for a wood router. I found a seller from Italy on eBay: http://www.ebay.it/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=310217944560ssPageName=ADME:X:RTQ:IT:1123 But they

Re: [Emc-users] pain in the $#%

2011-10-31 Thread andy pugh
On 31 October 2011 16:38, Leonardo Marsaglia leonardomarsagli...@gmail.com wrote: Andy, I'm reading about the SMI patch right now. I installed a clean copy of the ubuntu 10.04 live cd with emc 2.4.3 and I really don't know if this one comes already patched No, because the SMI patch is

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle motor

2011-10-31 Thread gene heskett
On Monday, October 31, 2011 03:38:48 PM Viesturs Lācis did opine: Hello, gentlemen! I need a 2 kW spindle motor and appropriate VFD drive for a wood router. I found a seller from Italy on eBay: http://www.ebay.it/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=310217944560ssPag eName=ADME:X:RTQ:IT:1123

Re: [Emc-users] Jog speed excedes axis max velocity

2011-10-31 Thread Frank Tkalcevic
I suspect it has to do with having defined 6 coordinates and then you have 8 axis sections below. I don't know what exactly, what you have doesn't seem to violate anything in the manual and you have DEFAULT_VELOCITY set which controls jog speed. But, I have seen odd behavior like what you

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle motor

2011-10-31 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2011/10/31 gene heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com: On Monday, October 31, 2011 03:38:48 PM Viesturs Lācis did opine: Hello, gentlemen! I need a 2 kW spindle motor and appropriate VFD drive for a wood router. I found a seller from Italy on eBay:

Re: [Emc-users] Jog speed excedes axis max velocity

2011-10-31 Thread Frank Tkalcevic
I assume that the Z moves under control? ie the commanded speed is genuinely high, rather than it being an artefact of the PID loop? That's right. I turned on full debug and I get a command like (from memory)... TELEOP_COMMAND 234,213, xspeed, yspeed, zspeed, etc Which is showing the z jog

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle motor

2011-10-31 Thread Florian Rist
Hi I need a 2 kW spindle motor and appropriate VFD drive for a wood router. I recently bought a 2.1 KW 24000 RMP max. spindle from HSD: http://www.hsdusa.com/viewdoc.asp?co_id=725 And a Hitachi Vektor VFD drive:

Re: [Emc-users] Jog speed excedes axis max velocity

2011-10-31 Thread Frank Tkalcevic
I can send you a patch file that shows what I did. It also disables the $ hotkey so I don't accidently switch modes with my fat fingers. It isn't perfect. If you need to rehome, you need to press the home-all button twice - I'm not sure why, but it is close enough. I don't know if this was the

Re: [Emc-users] Jog speed excedes axis max velocity

2011-10-31 Thread Tom Easterday
What is the patchfile to exactly? I would really like to be able to do this as well… -Tom On Oct 31, 2011, at 4:29 PM, Frank Tkalcevic wrote: I can send you a patch file that shows what I did. It also disables the $ hotkey so I don't accidently switch modes with my fat fingers. It isn't

Re: [Emc-users] Jog speed excedes axis max velocity

2011-10-31 Thread Frank Tkalcevic
It's a modification to axis. If you add AUTO_WORLD_AFTER_HOMEALL=1 to the DISPLAY section of the .ini file, axis will automatically switch from joint mode to world mode after a home-all completes successfully. It also disconnects the $ hotkey from the toggle world/joint mode command - the

Re: [Emc-users] pain in the $#%

2011-10-31 Thread Jon Elson
On 10/31/2011 6:32 AM, Leonardo Marsaglia wrote: Hello everybody, I just ran the latency test and the jitter of the servo thread was 800,000 ns!!!. OK, this is catastrophic! You can't even run servo hardware like this, as the latency will risk overrunning the default 1 ms servo thread. Jon

Re: [Emc-users] Jog speed excedes axis max velocity

2011-10-31 Thread Tom Easterday
On Oct 31, 2011, at 5:13 PM, Frank Tkalcevic wrote: It's a modification to axis. If you add AUTO_WORLD_AFTER_HOMEALL=1 to the DISPLAY section of the .ini file, axis will automatically switch from joint mode to world mode after a home-all completes successfully. It also disconnects the $

Re: [Emc-users] pain in the $#%

2011-10-31 Thread Leonardo Marsaglia
Hello again people! Just ran the latency test on my laptop. It gives me a max jitter of about 74,000 ns. I'll be installing an agp video card on my other machine as soon as possible to see if the latency decreases to a point that it's acceptable. If that doesn't work, I'll be trying what Andy

Re: [Emc-users] pain in the $#%

2011-10-31 Thread Leonardo Marsaglia
By the way, tomorrow I will try to identify the motherboard, to recomend what NOT to use, just in case, may be it's already on the list of hardware that doesn't work hehe. Regards. 2011/10/31 Leonardo Marsaglia leonardomarsagli...@gmail.com Hello again people! Just ran the latency test on my

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle motor

2011-10-31 Thread gene heskett
On Monday, October 31, 2011 06:22:17 PM Viesturs Lācis did opine: 2011/10/31 gene heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com: On Monday, October 31, 2011 03:38:48 PM Viesturs Lؤپcis did opine: Hello, gentlemen! I need a 2 kW spindle motor and appropriate VFD drive for a wood router. I found a seller

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle motor

2011-10-31 Thread Edward Bernard
I think this is what you're talking about: http://bigskytool.com/Hitachi_M12VC_2-14_Peak_HP_Variable_Speed_Fixed_Base_Router___i1159.aspx It IS a great little router. I put one on my gantry table and it works great. It's light, quiet and well made but best of all it has an electronic speed

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle motor

2011-10-31 Thread gene heskett
On Monday, October 31, 2011 08:17:37 PM Edward Bernard did opine: I think this is what you're talking about: http://bigskytool.com/Hitachi_M12VC_2-14_Peak_HP_Variable_Speed_Fixed_B ase_Router___i1159.aspx That's the puppy. Sweet device, and lots sweeter at that price, IIRC I paid well over

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle motor

2011-10-31 Thread Tom Easterday
FYI, I was googling for the specs page and see that it is even cheaper (a whole $3.75 ;-) on Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/Hitachi-M12VC-4-Horsepower-Variable-Speed-Router/dp/B0002ZZWXI Not sure how it comes out with shipping charges at either place… Tom On Oct 31, 2011, at 8:12 PM, Edward

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle motor

2011-10-31 Thread BRIAN GLACKIN
When using a router as a spindle, there are several things to consider. First, the routers are air cooled. This means if you run the router at lower speeds, you have to watch for overheating. Secondly, the airflow is directed from the top of the router down towards the work. This means it will

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle motor

2011-10-31 Thread gene heskett
On Monday, October 31, 2011 10:13:10 PM BRIAN GLACKIN did opine: When using a router as a spindle, there are several things to consider. First, the routers are air cooled. This means if you run the router at lower speeds, you have to watch for overheating. A given. Secondly, the airflow

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle motor

2011-10-31 Thread Jack Coats
I remember seeing a YouTube video of the guy from BuildYourCNC.com making a dust collector shoe for their machine. It addressed leaving room for cooling air for a router, but focusing on collecting the dust from the cutter. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhUtSOe2k5I 1 of 3