Re: [Emc-users] Laser engravng

2013-12-06 Thread MC Cason
On 12/06/2013 08:33 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Friday 06 December 2013 21:29:40 MC Cason did opine: > >> Gene, >> >> Sounds like you need a better helmet. >> >> I've used many different types of helmets over the years, and I >> finally settled on a Jackson helmet, with a NexGen module (~$

Re: [Emc-users] Laser engravng

2013-12-06 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 06 December 2013 21:29:40 MC Cason did opine: > Gene, > >Sounds like you need a better helmet. > >I've used many different types of helmets over the years, and I > finally settled on a Jackson helmet, with a NexGen module (~$400.00). I > use the same helmet for MIG, TIG, and S

Re: [Emc-users] Laser engravng

2013-12-06 Thread MC Cason
Gene, Sounds like you need a better helmet. I've used many different types of helmets over the years, and I finally settled on a Jackson helmet, with a NexGen module (~$400.00). I use the same helmet for MIG, TIG, and Stick. It's adjustable from shades 9 to 13, and when the batteries

Re: [Emc-users] "Slow" G code

2013-12-06 Thread Robert Ellenberg
On Dec 6, 2013 5:53 PM, "Tomaz T." wrote: > > Very nice to hear someone is working on that, I can provide you some complex 3 and 5-axis code generated from NX (siemens unigraphics), and I can also test it on my machine to check for improvements... > If you want, I can send you a this code I used f

Re: [Emc-users] "Slow" G code

2013-12-06 Thread Tomaz T .
Very nice to hear someone is working on that, I can provide you some complex 3 and 5-axis code generated from NX (siemens unigraphics), and I can also test it on my machine to check for improvements... If you want, I can send you a this code I used for this test mill of turbine:http://www.youtub

Re: [Emc-users] Laser engravng

2013-12-06 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 06 December 2013 15:28:32 Ron Bean did opine: > >Something that since I have extensive experience with, and the > >destruction one can cause trying to dispose of spent ferric chloride, > >I do NOT want to be involved with ever again. > > The guys here etch PCBs with a mix of muriatic ac

Re: [Emc-users] Laser engravng

2013-12-06 Thread Kirk Wallace
On 12/06/2013 12:23 PM, Ron Bean wrote: ... snip > Instead of photo resist, we use black spray paint, and etch the paint > away with a laser cutter. > > We've tried cutting circuit boards with a CNC engraving machine, with > varying results. The main problem seems to be keeping the board > absolute

Re: [Emc-users] Laser engravng

2013-12-06 Thread Ron Bean
>Something that since I have extensive experience with, and the destruction >one can cause trying to dispose of spent ferric chloride, I do NOT want to >be involved with ever again. The guys here etch PCBs with a mix of muriatic acid and hydrogen peroxide, which is much easier to deal with. Googl

Re: [Emc-users] Laser engravng

2013-12-06 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 06 December 2013 15:04:27 Bertho Stultiens did opine: > On 12/06/2013 08:24 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > Hence the cataract warnings that seem to surround the long IR CO2 > > models. Unforch I do have some already. > > Cataract inducing lasers are at ~1500nm (often Yag type lasers). The

Re: [Emc-users] Laser engravng

2013-12-06 Thread Bertho Stultiens
On 12/06/2013 08:24 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > Hence the cataract warnings that seem to surround the long IR CO2 models. > Unforch I do have some already. Cataract inducing lasers are at ~1500nm (often Yag type lasers). The 1.5um is small enough to pass through the cornea and will induce coagulat

Re: [Emc-users] Laser engravng

2013-12-06 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 06 December 2013 14:22:22 Florian Rist did opine: > Yes proper eye protection is important, but also at just 2 W and a diode > from a DVD burner. The power density that can be reached at the retina > is surprisingly high as soon as you deal with culminated (parallel) > beams. So even 2 W

Re: [Emc-users] "Slow" G code

2013-12-06 Thread Dave Cole
That is huge! Excellent work. Dave On 12/5/2013 11:10 PM, sam sokolik wrote: > Robert has been working very hard on the new TP. > > Here is an example > This program I found on the internet. (small line segments) > http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/testing/internet.ngc > > 533228 line prog

Re: [Emc-users] Laser engravng

2013-12-06 Thread David Armstrong
On 06/12/13 18:59, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Friday 06 December 2013 13:57:04 Florian Rist did opine: > >> Hi David >> >>> iv'e try'd copper and even with 600w + it's difficult to even mark it >> Yes, 600W is not enough. That's why a q-switched laser with short pulses >> is needed. Pulse peek energy

Re: [Emc-users] Laser engravng

2013-12-06 Thread Bertho Stultiens
On 12/06/2013 07:56 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: >>> PS: There was a ns pulsed UV Laser (quadrupled YAG) on ebay recently, >>> this would be the right one for the job. I was close to buying it was >>> quite cheap. >> unfortunatly not , copper for one will absorb the heat . >> and for a laser to work it

Re: [Emc-users] Laser engravng

2013-12-06 Thread Florian Rist
Hi Gen > Humm, thats beginning to sound like non-exportable munitions. Not to > mention eyeball wreckers just from the reflections off the surrounding > walls. :( Bad idea for someone not well versed in the tech. Yes proper eye protection is important, but also at just 2 W and a diode from a DV

Re: [Emc-users] Laser engravng

2013-12-06 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 06 December 2013 14:00:58 Bertho Stultiens did opine: > On 12/06/2013 07:07 PM, Florian Rist wrote: > >> So my question is, to someone who may have tried/done this, is can a > >> 1 ounce layer of copper be burned away rapidly enough so as not to > >> leave a burned, conductive path where

Re: [Emc-users] Laser engravng

2013-12-06 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 06 December 2013 13:57:04 Florian Rist did opine: > Hi David > > > iv'e try'd copper and even with 600w + it's difficult to even mark it > > Yes, 600W is not enough. That's why a q-switched laser with short pulses > is needed. Pulse peek energy on my laser is 25 kW, that's still not >

Re: [Emc-users] Laser engravng

2013-12-06 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 06 December 2013 13:50:36 David Armstrong did opine: > On 06/12/13 18:10, Florian Rist wrote: > > PS: There was a ns pulsed UV Laser (quadrupled YAG) on ebay recently, > > this would be the right one for the job. I was close to buying it was > > quite cheap. > > > >

Re: [Emc-users] Laser engravng

2013-12-06 Thread Bertho Stultiens
On 12/06/2013 07:07 PM, Florian Rist wrote: >> So my question is, to someone who may have tried/done this, is can a 1 >> ounce layer of copper be burned away rapidly enough so as not to leave a >> burned, conductive path where the copper was? > I tried this with two different Lasers sources: > 120

Re: [Emc-users] Laser engravng

2013-12-06 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 06 December 2013 13:46:26 Florian Rist did opine: > Hi Gene > > > So my question is, to someone who may have tried/done this, is can a 1 > > ounce layer of copper be burned away rapidly enough so as not to leave > > a burned, conductive path where the copper was? > > I tried this with

Re: [Emc-users] Laser engravng

2013-12-06 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 06 December 2013 13:18:03 Billy Huddleston did opine: > Burning wood, and etching metal are two different things. 30W lasers > have a hard time etching Aluminum without a special paste applied to > the part. I don't think a 2W laser diode will do much to a PCB except > maybe blacken it

Re: [Emc-users] Laser engravng

2013-12-06 Thread Florian Rist
Hi David > iv'e try'd copper and even with 600w + it's difficult to even mark it Yes, 600W is not enough. That's why a q-switched laser with short pulses is needed. Pulse peek energy on my laser is 25 kW, that's still not enough, the one on the mentioned laser was about 1 MW. This instantly turns

Re: [Emc-users] Laser engravng

2013-12-06 Thread David Armstrong
On 06/12/13 18:10, Florian Rist wrote: > PS: There was a ns pulsed UV Laser (quadrupled YAG) on ebay recently, > this would be the right one for the job. I was close to buying it was > quite cheap. > > -- > Sponsored by Int

Re: [Emc-users] Laser engravng

2013-12-06 Thread Florian Rist
PS: There was a ns pulsed UV Laser (quadrupled YAG) on ebay recently, this would be the right one for the job. I was close to buying it was quite cheap. -- Sponsored by Intel(R) XDK Develop, test and display web and hybri

Re: [Emc-users] Laser engravng

2013-12-06 Thread Florian Rist
Hi Gene > So my question is, to someone who may have tried/done this, is can a 1 > ounce layer of copper be burned away rapidly enough so as not to leave a > burned, conductive path where the copper was? I tried this with two different Lasers sources: 120 W CW CO2 Laser at 10600 µm wavelength:

Re: [Emc-users] Laser engravng

2013-12-06 Thread Billy Huddleston
Burning wood, and etching metal are two different things. 30W lasers have a hard time etching Aluminum without a special paste applied to the part. I don't think a 2W laser diode will do much to a PCB except maybe blacken it a bit. Thanks, Billy On 12/06/2013 12:55 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: >

[Emc-users] Laser engravng

2013-12-06 Thread Gene Heskett
Greetings; On reading one article on the net about ripping up old dvd writers and using the nominally 2 watt laser diode to do some wood burning etc with them, it has occurred to me that there could possibly be a use for those diodes in 'etching' pcb's. The article showed one mounted in a gant

Re: [Emc-users] Beaglebone USB

2013-12-06 Thread Jeff
Hi,   I tried out the recommended lightdm, and it worked just fine.  I was able to use a thumb drive right away, without any other process like pmount.  I also used the shut off button, and the BBB shut down properly.  It all seems to work for me. Jeff