Re: [Emc-users] Bridgeport servo troubleshooting

2017-03-04 Thread dave
On 03/04/2017 08:33 AM, Ben Potter wrote: > Good afternoon, > > > > I've got a converted Bridgeport Interact which decided to give up the ghost > last week. I think that one of the servo drives/amps is dead, and am hoping > that someone can sanity check my troubleshooting before I start

Re: [Emc-users] Durable Paint [Was: gee, is list in anechoic chamber]

2017-03-04 Thread Chris Albertson
On Sat, Mar 4, 2017 at 12:52 PM, Dave Cole wrote: > > Usually when they put "marine" on the label the price automatically gets > jacked up 50%. :-( I wish it was "only" 50%. But WM has been my go-to store when I need the best quality hardware, paint or electrical

Re: [Emc-users] Emc-users Digest, Vol 131, Issue 22

2017-03-04 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 04 March 2017 19:45:02 David Bagby wrote: > Hi all, > > The marine 2 part paints are very good re finish and durability, > however many of them are not for amateur use. You can get them from > marine suppliers, but they don't encourage sales to DIY folk. > > Many of the best two part

Re: [Emc-users] Bridgeport servo troubleshooting

2017-03-04 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 04 March 2017 16:24:29 Jon Elson wrote: > On 03/04/2017 12:20 PM, Ben Potter wrote: > > Thanks all, > > > > I'll swap the X drive onto the Z motor in the morning and do that > > test. > > > > The drive is a Bosch Z15-1A-240 - which is a thyristor drive. I'll > > pull the output pack

Re: [Emc-users] Emc-users Digest, Vol 131, Issue 22

2017-03-04 Thread David Bagby
Hi all, The marine 2 part paints are very good re finish and durability, however many of them are not for amateur use. You can get them from marine suppliers, but they don't encourage sales to DIY folk. Many of the best two part marine topside paints are LPU (Linear Polyurethane). LPU paints

Re: [Emc-users] Bridgeport servo troubleshooting

2017-03-04 Thread Jon Elson
On 03/04/2017 12:20 PM, Ben Potter wrote: > Thanks all, > > I'll swap the X drive onto the Z motor in the morning and do that test. > > The drive is a Bosch Z15-1A-240 - which is a thyristor drive. I'll pull the > output pack and see if I can find any identifying marks on the thyristors. > >

Re: [Emc-users] Durable Paint [Was: gee, is list in anechoic chamber]

2017-03-04 Thread Dave Cole
Usually when they put "marine" on the label the price automatically gets jacked up 50%. :-( Two part poly/urethane paint is great stuff, but it is also very toxic. Isocyanates are usually used as a catalyst. You need to be very careful with that stuff. I have used it, and it works great,

Re: [Emc-users] Bridgeport servo troubleshooting

2017-03-04 Thread Marius Alksnys
Ben, I have complete set (4 sets) of Z15-1-240V drives and servo motors. I am willing to sell them. Where are you located? I am in Lithuania. Write me if you are interested to: marius [eta] robotise.lt I will be able to send some photos.. 03/04/2017 06:33 PM, Ben Potter rašė: > Good

Re: [Emc-users] Durable Paint [Was: gee, is list in anechoic chamber]

2017-03-04 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 04 March 2017 13:13:41 Chris Albertson wrote: > Gene, > > Do you live anyplace near a large body of water. If so there is a > West Marine store near you. Look for the paint there. They sell > stuff used by boat owners who keep their boat in salt water 24x7. The > best paint I

Re: [Emc-users] Bridgeport servo troubleshooting

2017-03-04 Thread Jon Elson
On 03/04/2017 12:02 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > Do you have gear to measure a Hexfet transistor? The usual transistor > tester that may be part of a digital volt-ohm-meter never heard of a > Hexfet, and its a different critter entirely. They are most likely either NPN or Darlington NPN

Re: [Emc-users] Bridgeport servo troubleshooting

2017-03-04 Thread Jon Elson
On 03/04/2017 11:37 AM, Ben Potter wrote: > Yes, but the same drive connected to the X motor/tacho also runs at max > speed. Have not tried the X drive connected to the Z motor. > > Don't, until you have checked the motor for intermittent shorts to ground. (Since you put the drive back, and it

Re: [Emc-users] Bridgeport servo troubleshooting

2017-03-04 Thread Ben Potter
Thanks all, I'll swap the X drive onto the Z motor in the morning and do that test. The drive is a Bosch Z15-1A-240 - which is a thyristor drive. I'll pull the output pack and see if I can find any identifying marks on the thyristors. Thanks Ben -Original Message- From: Gene Heskett

Re: [Emc-users] Bridgeport servo troubleshooting

2017-03-04 Thread Jon Elson
On 03/04/2017 10:33 AM, Ben Potter wrote: > Fault: > > On power on, blows fuse/breaker. > > > > 7: Reconnected Z motor to Z drive > > On power up Z ran at maximum speed until I hit e-stop > > > > I'm pretty sure that the Z drive is dead - can anyone suggest any other > tests I should do? > >

Re: [Emc-users] Durable Paint [Was: gee, is list in anechoic chamber]

2017-03-04 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 04 March 2017 12:34:34 Mark wrote: > On 03/04/2017 12:24 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > >> Heh, speak for yerself. While it was fairly mild this past > >> February, I had the snow blower out again yesterday morning. We > >> got a wee bit more snow up here in Northern Michigan than you

Re: [Emc-users] Durable Paint [Was: gee, is list in anechoic chamber]

2017-03-04 Thread Chris Albertson
Gene, Do you live anyplace near a large body of water. If so there is a West Marine store near you. Look for the paint there. They sell stuff used by boat owners who keep their boat in salt water 24x7. The best paint I found there is a catalyzed two part polyurethane. It comes in two cans.

Re: [Emc-users] Durable Paint [Was: gee, is list in anechoic chamber]

2017-03-04 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 04 March 2017 12:26:45 andy pugh wrote: > On 4 March 2017 at 10:18, Gene Heskett wrote: > > And a hand sprayer, like an airbrush, which I have, but I'm near out > > of acetone for panel cleanup before, and the airbrush after. > > For lathe parts a brush is far

Re: [Emc-users] Durable Paint [Was: gee, is list in anechoic chamber]

2017-03-04 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 04 March 2017 12:03:56 Mark wrote: > On 03/04/2017 11:34 AM, Dave Cole wrote: > > I have a friend that lives in Frankfort, west of Traverse City, MI. > > He got 8 inches ... which is very common up there. You have had it > > easy this winter. > > I'm 200 miles south and I was

Re: [Emc-users] Bridgeport servo troubleshooting

2017-03-04 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 04 March 2017 11:33:27 Ben Potter wrote: > Good afternoon, > > > > I've got a converted Bridgeport Interact which decided to give up the > ghost last week. I think that one of the servo drives/amps is dead, > and am hoping that someone can sanity check my troubleshooting before > I

Re: [Emc-users] Durable Paint [Was: gee, is list in anechoic chamber]

2017-03-04 Thread TJoseph Powderly
andy it may be of use for readers to know RAL is a standard for colors used by many machine manufacturers I know from matching customers desired machine color to manufacturer's resources. and readers can buy a RAL color swatch pretty cheap on eBay. Europe & Asia use it, UK also but good ol USA

Re: [Emc-users] Bridgeport servo troubleshooting

2017-03-04 Thread James Reed
Your testing technique is good. I don't know the particular servos that you have, but on my BP, the servos have a tach feedback. Since the runaway condition happened on 2 different motors but the same drive, either the input from the tach feedback may be bad, or you've got a output device

Re: [Emc-users] Bridgeport servo troubleshooting

2017-03-04 Thread dragon
I would try putting the X drive connected to the Z motor in place of the Z drive. If it runs fine then you know that the servo motor, tach, encoder, and wiring into and out of the drive are all fine for the Z axis and thus the drive would have to be the problem. On 03/04/2017 11:37 AM, Ben

Re: [Emc-users] Bridgeport servo troubleshooting

2017-03-04 Thread Ben Potter
From: andy pugh [mailto:bodge...@gmail.com] > On 4 March 2017 at 16:33, Ben Potter wrote: > > On power up Z ran at maximum speed until I hit e-stop > So, the Z was blowing the fuse, but now it runs at max speed? Yes, but the same drive connected to the X motor/tacho also runs at

Re: [Emc-users] Durable Paint [Was: gee, is list in anechoic chamber]

2017-03-04 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 04 March 2017 11:28:25 Dave Cole wrote: > The Rustoleum Topside Enamel that is being sold by Lowes, Home Depot, > Menards etc is good stuff and it dries hard after just a couple days. > Its a one part paint. > Made for boat decks and above-waterline applications on boats. Its oil >

Re: [Emc-users] Durable Paint [Was: gee, is list in anechoic chamber]

2017-03-04 Thread Mark
On 03/04/2017 12:24 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: >> >> Heh, speak for yerself. While it was fairly mild this past February, >> I had the snow blower out again yesterday morning. We got a wee bit >> more snow up here in Northern Michigan than you got there in West By >> God Virginny. ;-) >> >> >>

Re: [Emc-users] Bridgeport servo troubleshooting

2017-03-04 Thread andy pugh
On 4 March 2017 at 16:33, Ben Potter wrote: > On power up Z ran at maximum speed until I hit e-stop So, the Z was blowing the fuse, but now it runs at max speed? Do you have tachometers? -- atp "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is designed for the

Re: [Emc-users] Durable Paint [Was: gee, is list in anechoic chamber]

2017-03-04 Thread andy pugh
On 4 March 2017 at 10:18, Gene Heskett wrote: > And a hand sprayer, like an airbrush, which I have, but I'm near out of > acetone for panel cleanup before, and the airbrush after. For lathe parts a brush is far more convenient, and you can put more on quickly too. I used

Re: [Emc-users] Durable Paint [Was: gee, is list in anechoic chamber]

2017-03-04 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 04 March 2017 08:08:38 Mark wrote: > On 03/03/2017 11:26 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > And you've got way more giddyup for that than I have back left to do > > it with. Lets hope yours is as mild as ours was. Nobody here even > > put a blade on their riders or 4 wheelers, not enough

Re: [Emc-users] Durable Paint [Was: gee, is list in anechoic chamber]

2017-03-04 Thread Mark
On 03/04/2017 11:34 AM, Dave Cole wrote: > I have a friend that lives in Frankfort, west of Traverse City, MI. > He got 8 inches ... which is very common up there. You have had it > easy this winter. > I'm 200 miles south and I was getting used to 60 degrees in February! :-) > > I started my

[Emc-users] Bridgeport servo troubleshooting

2017-03-04 Thread Ben Potter
Good afternoon, I've got a converted Bridgeport Interact which decided to give up the ghost last week. I think that one of the servo drives/amps is dead, and am hoping that someone can sanity check my troubleshooting before I start spending money. Before I removed any wires, I checked the

Re: [Emc-users] Durable Paint [Was: gee, is list in anechoic chamber]

2017-03-04 Thread Dave Cole
I have a friend that lives in Frankfort, west of Traverse City, MI. He got 8 inches ... which is very common up there. You have had it easy this winter. I'm 200 miles south and I was getting used to 60 degrees in February! :-) I started my snowblower in November and ran it once in December

Re: [Emc-users] Durable Paint [Was: gee, is list in anechoic chamber]

2017-03-04 Thread Dave Cole
The Rustoleum Topside Enamel that is being sold by Lowes, Home Depot, Menards etc is good stuff and it dries hard after just a couple days. Its a one part paint. Made for boat decks and above-waterline applications on boats. Its oil based and I've been really happy with it on boats and

Re: [Emc-users] OT - Advice on processor board for indexer project.

2017-03-04 Thread linden
The DMM servo system I have sitting on my bench at the moment has an input to allow the motor to free wheel but still keep the encoder on line. I haven't tried it yet but in theory you could have a free wheel switch to flip when you wanted to move by hand then switch back once in position. I

Re: [Emc-users] Durable Paint [Was: gee, is list in anechoic chamber]

2017-03-04 Thread Mark
On 03/03/2017 11:26 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > And you've got way more giddyup for that than I have back left to do it > with. Lets hope yours is as mild as ours was. Nobody here even put a > blade on their riders or 4 wheelers, not enough snow. Lots of rain this > last 6 weeks though, which we

Re: [Emc-users] Durable Paint [Was: gee, is list in anechoic chamber]

2017-03-04 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 04 March 2017 01:21:26 Erik Christiansen wrote: > On 03.03.17 23:26, Gene Heskett wrote: > > I used a two part stuff when I redid the bottom of my ancient boat > > several years back, mixed the hardener in and air gunned it on > > within an hour IIRC. And that has proven to be pretty