Re: [Emc-users] PC MB for Linux.

2017-10-17 Thread Gregg Eshelman via Emc-users
Is the motherboard AGP 8x compatible? There can be issues plugging an 8x video card into a board with a slower slot. The AGP standard has provisions for backward compatibility but they were for the most part optional. Many 8x cards are 1.5 volt only, though some can tolerate 3.3V or 5V. IIRC

Re: [Emc-users] PC MB for Linux.

2017-10-17 Thread Gregg Eshelman via Emc-users
Has to be two different computers, right? For PCIe x1, grab a Quadro NVS 290 off eBay, preferably with the dual monitor breakout cable it'll require. Those come in dual VGA, dual DVI or one of each. You'll also find plenty of ATi FireMV 2250 x1 cards but the Quadro beats the pants off it and

Re: [Emc-users] PC MB for Linux.

2017-10-17 Thread John Dammeyer
I do that with both the Pi and another WIN-7 application. In fact that's how I run the 3D printer via Octopi. I haven't tried getting into this new machine. However, If I'm standing over the CNC machine it doesn't help if the workstation here with 2 1080P monitors is in another room. For

Re: [Emc-users] PC MB for Linux.

2017-10-17 Thread Chris Albertson
Why not just unplug the monitor, keyboard and mouse and run the system "headless". Then you don't have to worry about graphics. I'm sure you must own some other computer, the one you use to post here. Have your LinuxCNC machine use Ethernet to send the display to your other computer. That is

Re: [Emc-users] PC MB for Linux.

2017-10-17 Thread John Dammeyer
No luck. Pretty as the display is with the AGP 8x board, it seems to lock up something in the LinuxCNC part. Has anyone tried one of these with LinuxCNC?Name brand this time. Has HDMI, DVI and even VGA. https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA7HN5HW6133 John > -Original

Re: [Emc-users] PC MB for Linux.

2017-10-17 Thread John Dammeyer
While I was out and about today, after doggy walk, I stopped in at a local computer store that also sells surplus stuff. For $14.95 I picked up an AGP 8x generic video board. Installed it, BIOS came up knowing it was AGP. Linux came up with proper resolution. Sharp. Crisp. Then I ran the

Re: [Emc-users] Pine64 / Rpi3

2017-10-17 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Tue, 17 Oct 2017, Chris Albertson wrote: Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2017 10:41:26 -0700 From: Chris Albertson Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"

Re: [Emc-users] Another thought on my failures re following errors

2017-10-17 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 17 October 2017 11:01:29 Gene Heskett wrote: > Greetings everybody; > > It occurred to me later last night, that these following errors > absolutely have to be bus or card failure related. The LCNC system > has no feedback from the motors, only from the 5i25. So as long as > thats

Re: [Emc-users] Pine64 / Rpi3

2017-10-17 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 17 October 2017 13:02:09 Chris Albertson wrote: > On the Pi the Ethernet and USB are on the same shared bus. But > how much bandwidth is required to drive a Mesa FPGA card? I > have read the Ethernet port can only push about 40% of it's spec'd > bandwidth but the card only requires

Re: [Emc-users] Pine64 / Rpi3

2017-10-17 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 17 October 2017 12:56:45 andy pugh wrote: > On 17 October 2017 at 17:51, Greg Bentzinger wrote: > > Using > > these boards Ethernet port as a dedicated port is an option, > > I don't think it is. I have heard that the Pi Ethernet port is on the > USB bus. I

Re: [Emc-users] PC MB for Linux.

2017-10-17 Thread andy pugh
On 17 October 2017 at 18:30, John Dammeyer wrote: > The Live LinuxCNC distro doesn't have or create an xorg.conf file. Other > postings on the web suggest that this was disposed of in some distributions > in favour of xrandr and/or probing on startup everytime. Yes, but

Re: [Emc-users] Pine64 / Rpi3

2017-10-17 Thread Chris Albertson
Latency does not matter if the real-time timing is done on the "far end". N the case where you would use USB or Ethernet you'd have a processor, either an FPGA or a uP. If there is any kind of buffer or memory on the processor then millisecond hang-ups are OK. Proof that this works is with al

Re: [Emc-users] PC MB for Linux.

2017-10-17 Thread John Dammeyer
Hi, The Live LinuxCNC distro doesn't have or create an xorg.conf file. Other postings on the web suggest that this was disposed of in some distributions in favour of xrandr and/or probing on startup everytime. You're right though, it does appear like there is a default 1920x1080 desktop size.

Re: [Emc-users] Pine64 / Rpi3

2017-10-17 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Tue, 17 Oct 2017, Chris Albertson wrote: Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2017 10:02:09 -0700 From: Chris Albertson Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"

Re: [Emc-users] Pine64 / Rpi3

2017-10-17 Thread Chris Albertson
On the Pi the Ethernet and USB are on the same shared bus. But how much bandwidth is required to drive a Mesa FPGA card? I have read the Ethernet port can only push about 40% of it's spec'd bandwidth but the card only requires 2% it's OK. If performance is the goal you's spend an eatery $50 and

Re: [Emc-users] Pine64 / Rpi3

2017-10-17 Thread andy pugh
On 17 October 2017 at 17:51, Greg Bentzinger wrote: > Using > these boards Ethernet port as a dedicated port is an option, I don't think it is. I have heard that the Pi Ethernet port is on the USB bus. -- atp "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and

Re: [Emc-users] Pine64 / Rpi3

2017-10-17 Thread Greg Bentzinger via Emc-users
On Tuesday, October 17, 2017, 4:28:37 AM MDT, andy pugh wrote: On 17 October 2017 at 07:47, Greg Bentzinger via Emc-users wrote: > Ideally it would be great if someone could design a cape/hat/shield/ whatever > that mates to the

Re: [Emc-users] PC MB for Linux.

2017-10-17 Thread jrmitchellj .
I first ran into this problem when I started building a new system with the latest live iso, based on Debian. It worked as expected on Ubuntu 10.04. There seems to be multiple issues happening. >From what you describe, it seems that the system is expecting a wide (16x9) display. There may be a

[Emc-users] Another thought on my failures re following errors

2017-10-17 Thread Gene Heskett
Greetings everybody; It occurred to me later last night, that these following errors absolutely have to be bus or card failure related. The LCNC system has no feedback from the motors, only from the 5i25. So as long as thats working, I ought to be able to jog an axis at a reasonable speed

Re: [Emc-users] PC MB for Linux.

2017-10-17 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 17 October 2017 09:21:45 andy pugh wrote: > On 17 October 2017 at 14:17, Gene Heskett wrote: > > I've forgotten where its at, but there is a list that will let you > > match the hdmi_group and hdmi_mode lines to your monitor. > > https://elinux.org/RPiconfig

Re: [Emc-users] PC MB for Linux.

2017-10-17 Thread andy pugh
On 17 October 2017 at 14:17, Gene Heskett wrote: > I've forgotten where its at, but there is a list that will let you match > the hdmi_group and hdmi_mode lines to your monitor. https://elinux.org/RPiconfig -- atp "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment

Re: [Emc-users] PC MB for Linux.

2017-10-17 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 17 October 2017 04:29:56 Chris Albertson wrote: > The first thing to try is "Applications Menu --> Settings --> Display" > then you set resolution to something smaller than your monitor. > > On Tue, Oct 17, 2017 at 12:19 AM, John Dammeyer > > > wrote: > > I

Re: [Emc-users] Pine64 / Rpi3

2017-10-17 Thread andy pugh
On 17 October 2017 at 12:00, TJoseph Powderly wrote: > Hi Andy, this chip? > http://www.nxp.com/documents/data_sheet/GTL2000.pdf That's the one. -- atp "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is designed for the especial use of mechanical geniuses,

Re: [Emc-users] Pine64 / Rpi3

2017-10-17 Thread TJoseph Powderly
Hi Andy, this chip? http://www.nxp.com/documents/data_sheet/GTL2000.pdf Thx Tomp tjtr33 On Oct 17, 2017 6:29 PM, "andy pugh" wrote: On 17 October 2017 at 07:47, Greg Bentzinger via Emc-users wrote: > Ideally it would be great if someone

Re: [Emc-users] Pine64 / Rpi3

2017-10-17 Thread andy pugh
On 17 October 2017 at 07:47, Greg Bentzinger via Emc-users wrote: > Ideally it would be great if someone could design a cape/hat/shield/ whatever > that mates to the Rpi/BBB and could approximate a EPP parallel port. The hardware part exists.

Re: [Emc-users] PC MB for Linux.

2017-10-17 Thread andy pugh
On 17 October 2017 at 05:38, John Dammeyer wrote: > I'm seeing the same problem with that I have with the Beagle where LXDE > just can't get the screen resolution on this Samsung monitor right. You can force it. I typically end up creating an Xorg.conf but the xrandr

Re: [Emc-users] Pine64 / Rpi3

2017-10-17 Thread Chris Albertson
An Ethernet connected Mesa board seems like it would connect with any computer, pi, Intel PC or BBB. Ethernet is pretty universal. If you are worried about electrical power get an Intel Atom mainboard and install a PCI connected Mesa card. The Atom uses so little power it does not need a fan.

Re: [Emc-users] PC MB for Linux.

2017-10-17 Thread Lester Caine
On 17/10/17 08:19, John Dammeyer wrote: > Is this a Motherboard Video controller issue with Linux thinking it's a > bigger screen or is it configuration issue? John ... getting modern graphics working reliably is one of the bane's of my live these days. Running the screens in the office on the

Re: [Emc-users] PC MB for Linux.

2017-10-17 Thread Chris Albertson
The first thing to try is "Applications Menu --> Settings --> Display" then you set resolution to something smaller than your monitor. On Tue, Oct 17, 2017 at 12:19 AM, John Dammeyer wrote: > I have one more question which possibly relates to this motherboard and the >

Re: [Emc-users] PC MB for Linux.

2017-10-17 Thread Chris Albertson
I think the first problem to solve is why you can't burn DVDs You can bypass that problem if your PC is new enough to boot from a USB drive. Most can do that. That CD from 2005 is 12 yours old. On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 7:35 PM, John Dammeyer wrote: > Hi Chris, > I

Re: [Emc-users] PC MB for Linux.

2017-10-17 Thread John Dammeyer
I have one more question which possibly relates to this motherboard and the Live LinuxCNC: linuxcnc-2.7-wheezy.iso Is it just the on board video or is it a general problem with Debian LXDE desktop? I've seen complaints on the Pi Forums from a year ago on desktop size. There are lots of other

[Emc-users] Pine64 / Rpi3

2017-10-17 Thread Greg Bentzinger via Emc-users
I don't know how long the Pine64 will be available. The Raspberry Pi group on the other hand I expect will be around for the long haul just like the original Arduino project. Beagle Bone may not be moving forward anytime soon, but it looks like Centroid has gone in deep for that platform for