Re: [Emc-users] PCIe vs Ethernet Mesa card?

2020-07-06 Thread John Dammeyer
> -Original Message- > From: Chris Albertson [mailto:albertson.ch...@gmail.com] > > Could the delay be caused by DHCP? If the computer does a DHCP query and > does not find a DHCP server it will re-try perhaps many times. The > solution would be "don't do that" and assign a fixed IP

Re: [Emc-users] PCIe vs Ethernet Mesa card?

2020-07-06 Thread Chris Albertson
Could the delay be caused by DHCP? If the computer does a DHCP query and does not find a DHCP server it will re-try perhaps many times. The solution would be "don't do that" and assign a fixed IP address. Has anyone actually tried using the same Ethernet for normal uses and connected to Mesa

Re: [Emc-users] PCIe vs Ethernet Mesa card?

2020-07-06 Thread Ken Strauss
A lengthy delay is definitely not my experience. I boot from a SSD and the entire startup process is definitely takes less than a minute. > -Original Message- > From: John Dammeyer [mailto:jo...@autoartisans.com] > Sent: Monday, July 06, 2020 4:52 PM > To: 'Enhanced Machine Controller

Re: [Emc-users] Jerky jog in new 2.8 and 2.9 but not old 2.8 (onscreen buttons + mouse OK but not keyboard)

2020-07-06 Thread Leonardo Marsaglia
One thing I find my wireless keyboard does sometimes is that a key can get "sticky wirelessly". Mostly when I'm typing I sometimes get a "" until It suddenly stops. I'm mostly using the keyboard for signing in and modify the tool table etc, but since I'm using axis I sometimes think it

Re: [Emc-users] PCIe vs Ethernet Mesa card?

2020-07-06 Thread Jon Elson
On 07/06/2020 05:47 PM, John Dammeyer wrote: It's not a big deal. Whacks me across the head if I rush starting AXIS. There's always something to do as the system is brought to life. Like sweep up shavings or add oil to the spindle lube cups on the lathe. Put tools away. Clean rust film

Re: [Emc-users] PCIe vs Ethernet Mesa card?

2020-07-06 Thread John Dammeyer
It's not a big deal. Whacks me across the head if I rush starting AXIS. There's always something to do as the system is brought to life. Like sweep up shavings or add oil to the spindle lube cups on the lathe. Put tools away. Clean rust film that started showing up this year after 10 years

Re: [Emc-users] PCIe vs Ethernet Mesa card?

2020-07-06 Thread Jon Elson
On 07/06/2020 03:51 PM, John Dammeyer wrote: From: andy pugh [mailto:bodge...@gmail.com] On Mon, 6 Jul 2020 at 21:22, Chris Albertson wrote: Is there any advantage to using a bus connected Mesa card like the 6i25 vs using one of the Ethernet-connected cards such as 7i92M or 7i93 PCI might be

Re: [Emc-users] PCIe vs Ethernet Mesa card?

2020-07-06 Thread John Dammeyer
> From: andy pugh [mailto:bodge...@gmail.com] > On Mon, 6 Jul 2020 at 21:22, Chris Albertson > wrote: > > > > Is there any advantage to using a bus connected Mesa card like the 6i25 vs > > using one of the Ethernet-connected cards such as 7i92M or 7i93 > > PCI might be more reliable. Not so

Re: [Emc-users] PCIe vs Ethernet Mesa card?

2020-07-06 Thread andy pugh
On Mon, 6 Jul 2020 at 21:22, Chris Albertson wrote: > > Is there any advantage to using a bus connected Mesa card like the 6i25 vs > using one of the Ethernet-connected cards such as 7i92M or 7i93 PCI might be more reliable. Not so much during runs, but at startup. It is quite easy to imagine

Re: [Emc-users] PCIe vs Ethernet Mesa card?

2020-07-06 Thread Ken Strauss
Older Tormach machines such as my PCNC770-3 shipped with either a 5i25 or 6i25. Newer machines (now with significantly faster rapids) use a 7i92. Note that there appears to be no way to share a single Ethernet port on the host computer with a 7i92 and normal network connectivity. I have it working

[Emc-users] PCIe vs Ethernet Mesa card?

2020-07-06 Thread Chris Albertson
Is there any advantage to using a bus connected Mesa card like the 6i25 vs using one of the Ethernet-connected cards such as 7i92M or 7i93 It seems that Ethernet would allow me to control the CNC Mill and lathe from any computer even the ones in the office and also from a computer that lacks a

[Emc-users] More cbn headaches

2020-07-06 Thread Roland Jollivet
See here ; Pferd will usually have what you need.

Re: [Emc-users] Jerky jog in new 2.8 and 2.9 but not old 2.8 (onscreen buttons + mouse OK but not keyboard)

2020-07-06 Thread N
> On 7/6/20 8:21 AM, N wrote: > > On Mon, 6 Jul 2020 08:08:44 -0500 > > Ed wrote: > > > > > > Nailed it. Jogged for a minute or so without a sign of problem using the > > mouse and onscreen buttons withot a sign of problem. > > > > First thing I think about is auto repeat. > > > That is what I

Re: [Emc-users] Jerky jog in new 2.8 and 2.9 but not old 2.8 (onscreen buttons + mouse OK but not keyboard)

2020-07-06 Thread Ed
On 7/6/20 8:21 AM, N wrote: On Mon, 6 Jul 2020 08:08:44 -0500 Ed wrote: Nailed it. Jogged for a minute or so without a sign of problem using the mouse and onscreen buttons withot a sign of problem. First thing I think about is auto repeat. That is what I found with the cheap keyboards.

Re: [Emc-users] Jerky jog in new 2.8 and 2.9 but not old 2.8 (onscreen buttons + mouse OK but not keyboard)

2020-07-06 Thread N
On Mon, 6 Jul 2020 08:08:44 -0500 Ed wrote: > On 7/6/20 7:48 AM, N wrote: > >> On Mon, 6 Jul 2020 at 11:26, N wrote: > >> > >> > > First try rejected because of size but cropped this one. Attached is > > pictures of joint.0.vel-cmd which is the first signal I am looking at, not > > sure what

Re: [Emc-users] Jerky jog in new 2.8 and 2.9 but not old 2.8

2020-07-06 Thread Ed
On 7/6/20 7:48 AM, N wrote: On Mon, 6 Jul 2020 at 11:26, N wrote: First try rejected because of size but cropped this one. Attached is pictures of joint.0.vel-cmd which is the first signal I am looking at, not sure what to look at more right now. It is a wireless keyboard but see no

Re: [Emc-users] Jerky jog in new 2.8 and 2.9 but not old 2.8

2020-07-06 Thread N
> On Mon, 6 Jul 2020 at 11:26, N wrote: > > > > Exactly which HAL pins are you looking at. > > > > I am looking at the "vel" field on the axis display > > Ah, right. I think that is commanded. So then the question is whether > the keyboard is sending key-up events. > > I repeat that a Halscope

Re: [Emc-users] 2.9.0 Jerky jog

2020-07-06 Thread Ed
On 7/5/20 5:30 PM, N wrote: On Sun, 5 Jul 2020 at 14:07, N wrote: Are currently using version 2.9.0 pre something. G0 move work smoothly but jogging is jerky, anyone else here made same experience? How are you jogging? Keyboard. sim seems OK. Running against hardware and it sometimes show

Re: [Emc-users] Jerky jog in new 2.8 and 2.9 but not old 2.8

2020-07-06 Thread Leonardo Marsaglia
Now that I read this, I feel the need to tell that I experienced this behaviour from time to time in 2.8 but with the manual jog lever (wich is connected thru a 7i73) not the keyboard. It felt mostly like a switch not making good contact but I'll check this with halscope later when I'm at the

Re: [Emc-users] Jerky jog in new 2.8 and 2.9 but not old 2.8

2020-07-06 Thread andy pugh
On Mon, 6 Jul 2020 at 11:26, N wrote: > > Exactly which HAL pins are you looking at. > > I am looking at the "vel" field on the axis display Ah, right. I think that is commanded. So then the question is whether the keyboard is sending key-up events. I repeat that a Halscope plot of the

Re: [Emc-users] Jerky jog in new 2.8 and 2.9 but not old 2.8

2020-07-06 Thread N
> On Mon, 6 Jul 2020 at 10:43, N wrote: > > > > > On Mon, 6 Jul 2020 at 09:14, N wrote: > > > > > > > > sometimes but not always visible in "vel" field > > > > > > _which_ "vel" ? > > > > Both low and high velocity but on low velocity jerk is much smaller. > > (Losing patience) > > Exactly

Re: [Emc-users] Jerky jog in new 2.8 and 2.9 but not old 2.8

2020-07-06 Thread andy pugh
On Mon, 6 Jul 2020 at 10:43, N wrote: > > > On Mon, 6 Jul 2020 at 09:14, N wrote: > > > > > > sometimes but not always visible in "vel" field > > > > _which_ "vel" ? > > Both low and high velocity but on low velocity jerk is much smaller. (Losing patience) Exactly which HAL pins are you

Re: [Emc-users] Jerky jog in new 2.8 and 2.9 but not old 2.8

2020-07-06 Thread N
> On Mon, 6 Jul 2020 at 09:14, N wrote: > > > > sometimes but not always visible in "vel" field > > _which_ "vel" ? Both low and high velocity but on low velocity jerk is much smaller. It is only then running against hardware and have not seen it in sim. Old version of 2.8 is OK but not

Re: [Emc-users] Jerky jog in new 2.8 and 2.9 but not old 2.8

2020-07-06 Thread andy pugh
On Mon, 6 Jul 2020 at 09:14, N wrote: > > sometimes but not always visible in "vel" field _which_ "vel" ? -- atp "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is designed for the especial use of mechanical geniuses, daredevils and lunatics." — George Fitch, Atlanta Constitution

Re: [Emc-users] Jerky jog in new 2.8 and 2.9 but not old 2.8

2020-07-06 Thread N
> > Keyboard. sim seems OK. Running against hardware and it sometimes show up > > in the "vel" field > > Which particular pin? > > it is probably worth running a Halscope on the position / vel commands. > > Try unplugging the mouse. Old version 2.8.0~pre1 is OK but do not know exact version

Re: [Emc-users] 2.9.0 Jerky jog

2020-07-06 Thread andy pugh
On Sun, 5 Jul 2020 at 23:32, N wrote: > Keyboard. sim seems OK. Running against hardware and it sometimes show up in > the "vel" field Which particular pin? it is probably worth running a Halscope on the position / vel commands. Try unplugging the mouse. -- atp "A motorcycle is a bicycle

Re: [Emc-users] 2.9.0 Jerky jog

2020-07-06 Thread Marcus Bowman
You may be getting RFI from that motor. Marcus On 5 Jul 2020, at 23:58, N wrote: >> On Sun, 5 Jul 2020 at 14:07, N wrote: >>> >>> Are currently using version 2.9.0 pre something. G0 move work smoothly but >>> jogging is jerky, anyone else here made same experience? >> >> How are you