Re: [Emc-users] denied access to buildbot ???

2020-07-25 Thread Sebastian Kuzminsky
On 7/24/20 4:19 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: On Friday 24 July 2020 18:13:17 andy pugh wrote: On Fri, 24 Jul 2020 at 22:41, Gene Heskett wrote: deb http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/ wheezy master-rt Oh, OK. It seems that buildbot is in a bad mood: http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/dists/ Thats a

Re: [Emc-users] 3d printed nut pockets #$%^

2020-07-25 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 25 July 2020 17:17:58 Chris Albertson wrote: > You can try and press fit bearing but epoxy in a loose fit hole works > really well as for grease attacking plastic. Try it. Sear whatever > you have on some reject parts and put it in a ziplock bag, take it out > every week or so and

Re: [Emc-users] 3d printed nut pockets #$%^

2020-07-25 Thread Gregg Eshelman via Emc-users
With a sharp thread profile like a wood or sheet metal screw and especially a self cutting thread into plastic there's a simple trick to make the threads last a long time with repeated use. While applying gentle pressure, or just the weight of the screwdriver, first turn the screw slowly

Re: [Emc-users] Cutting plastic film

2020-07-25 Thread Gregg Eshelman via Emc-users
Don't know if this guy is still around but he had a method of resharpening carbide end mills where they could cut really hard materials, like metal files. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCN6hhXdNcy00iIp6Hfwo29A On Saturday, July 25, 2020, 1:46:25 AM MDT, andrew beck wrote: You can buy

Re: [Emc-users] smoother limit3 befor PID not after

2020-07-25 Thread Thaddeus Waldner
I would be interested in how the Okuma compares with your machine in dead weight, live weight, max feeds and max acceleration. Obviously some of those numbers are hard to get but Overall weight, max feed and acceleration are published by Okuma. > On Jul 25, 2020, at 5:16 PM, N wrote: > > 

Re: [Emc-users] Cutting plastic film

2020-07-25 Thread Gregg Eshelman via Emc-users
Corner turning with a drag knife can be done by raising the knife until the point is just into the material. Then sweep an arc with a radius equal to the knife point offset. For inside corners that's the way to do it. On outside corners that method works or you can have it go past the end then

Re: [Emc-users] smoother limit3 befor PID not after

2020-07-25 Thread N
> Thanks for all the replies guys. > > My machine runs mint it's just at high speed the whole thing shakes. > > I think my solution will be to rubber mount the whole electrical box and > also program in fusion360 cam for feedlimited corners if possible > > In the future if S curve jerk limiting

Re: [Emc-users] 3d printed nut pockets #$%^

2020-07-25 Thread Chris Albertson
You can try and press fit bearing but epoxy in a loose fit hole works really well as for grease attacking plastic. Try it. Sear whatever you have on some reject parts and put it in a ziplock bag, take it out every week or so and check. Many of us would like to read about this test. Try salad

Re: [Emc-users] smoother limit3 befor PID not after

2020-07-25 Thread andrew beck
Thanks for all the replies guys. My machine runs mint it's just at high speed the whole thing shakes. I think my solution will be to rubber mount the whole electrical box and also program in fusion360 cam for feedlimited corners if possible In the future if S curve jerk limiting is done that

Re: [Emc-users] Cutting plastic film -->

2020-07-25 Thread N
Here is cutting machines in action https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-67lKePbcQ somewhere from one third to half way thru, also other places using a knife as someone suggested, this one need a spindle encoder. Guess this is the technology for small series, either do myself buying tool to my

Re: [Emc-users] 3d printed nut pockets #$%^

2020-07-25 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 25 July 2020 13:10:11 Chris Albertson wrote: > Common? Only once then people figure out to never again put support > in the nut packers or hole os com up with an even better solution than > using nuts. Like heated brass thread inserts or just model threads in > the plastic. > > There

Re: [Emc-users] Cutting plastic film

2020-07-25 Thread Glenn Edwards
I do not understand all of your email, but let me try to respond. You describe a die-cutting method called kiss-cutting in which the cut does not go through all the layers of a label, for instance. These are usually done on presses, such as a clam-shell press, and using steel-rule dies. For a

Re: [Emc-users] Quiet toothed belts.

2020-07-25 Thread Chris Albertson
On Sat, Jul 25, 2020 at 10:58 AM John Dammeyer wrote: > > My 3D printer is at the low end of the scale for quality and although I > use it for all sorts of things, I wouldn't use it to make a 3000 RPM pulley. > It really does work. I used an Anet A6 printer I paid $180 for the printers Here

Re: [Emc-users] 3d printed nut pockets #$%^

2020-07-25 Thread Chris Albertson
I watches a Youtube video where sme one tried different methods with threads and then put in an M5 screw and then pulled the screw head in a test cell until the it failed and measured the pullout force.If you do it right one is about as good as the other as it was never the threads that fails

Re: [Emc-users] Cutting plastic film

2020-07-25 Thread N
Otherwise I better of find someone locally, have seen some plotters I think do something similar, it is common stickers are cut half way thru and thought maybe someone know what kind of tool is used to this kind of things so I could the machine on floor 2-3 meters behind me? If you are close

Re: [Emc-users] smoother limit3 befor PID not after

2020-07-25 Thread N
> Hi, > TinyG is supposed to have S curve accel and limited jerk. It might be > worth looking at for approach. Should be easy since it is pretty much > linuxcnc but embedded. > Just a comment following up on an earlier post; maybe a week ago or so. > Just poking the bear. :-) > > Dave Forgot

Re: [Emc-users] Quiet toothed belts.

2020-07-25 Thread John Dammeyer
Thanks. Good suggestions and warnings. Is it possible to mill the profile with the pulley horizontal?I guess it depends how thick the pulley is and how long a small end mill can be without breaking. I'd guess the standard way is rotary indexer with pulley face vertical and ball mill.

Re: [Emc-users] 3d printed nut pockets #$%^

2020-07-25 Thread Bruce Layne
On 7/25/20 1:10 PM, Chris Albertson wrote: > ...just model threads in the plastic. This trick works much better on the newer high resolution MSLA resin printers that sell for as little as $209.  I used FreeCAD this morning to design a rough functional prototype to test that has 1/2-28 threads. 

Re: [Emc-users] Quiet toothed belts.

2020-07-25 Thread Chris Albertson
Yes, The the best and newest tooth profile the GT3 from Gates. These are quiet and have there smallest backlash and also the smallest belt tension requirements. Running a pass of a ball nose might make a working pully but the profile will not be exact. If you must MAKE a uleey the trick is to

Re: [Emc-users] 3d printed nut pockets #$%^

2020-07-25 Thread Chris Albertson
Common? Only once then people figure out to never again put support in the nut packers or hole os com up with an even better solution than using nuts. Like heated brass thread inserts or just model threads in the plastic. There are many solutions for dealing with threads for screws and all of

Re: [Emc-users] Cutting plastic film

2020-07-25 Thread Chris Albertson
Notice the tip of the blade is not on the centerline of the tool holder and the offset moves to trail the direction of movement. As I said, you will have to think about how to make corners On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 6:05 PM andy pugh wrote: > On Sat, 25 Jul 2020 at 01:48, Matthew Herd wrote: > >

Re: [Emc-users] Cutting plastic film

2020-07-25 Thread Thomas J Powderly
take a look at steel rule dies they are cheap ( relative term ) and not difficult to make ( again relative) you can get it made custom using online services. The ejector is a rubber-like pad surrounding the rule tomp On 7/25/20 6:09 PM, andy pugh wrote: On Sat, 25 Jul 2020 at 12:05, N

[Emc-users] smoother mover motion

2020-07-25 Thread dave engvall
Hi, TinyG is supposed to have S curve accel and limited jerk. It might be worth looking at for approach. Should be easy since it is pretty much linuxcnc but embedded. Just a comment following up on an earlier post; maybe a week ago or so. Just poking the bear. :-) Dave

Re: [Emc-users] Cutting plastic film

2020-07-25 Thread Glenn Edwards
If you do not want to invest in tooling or machines or learning something new, there is a prototype die-cutting service that can score plastic sheets so that you can follow-up with scissors. Full -disclosure it is my company (see below). We have done this for clothing designers by scoring

Re: [Emc-users] 3d printed nut pockets #$%^

2020-07-25 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 25 July 2020 09:00:52 andy pugh wrote: > On Sat, 25 Jul 2020 at 13:50, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > There should never need to be support in a through-hole. (what is > > > it supporting?) > > > > This is something I found on thingiverse searching for harmonic > > drive. > > Support is

Re: [Emc-users] Cutting plastic film

2020-07-25 Thread N
> Depending on the plastic I'd first look at laser for this application. > Don't laser PVC. PE and PP can be difficult unless it is very thin. > > Drag or tangential knife would be my second choice. You'll need some way > to hold the sheet down. Simply taping down the edges may work. For >

Re: [Emc-users] Cutting plastic film

2020-07-25 Thread Marcus Bowman
On 25 Jul 2020, at 08:43, andrew beck wrote: > single flute > router cutters for like 3usd.Just trying to help fellow > linuxcnc guys Thanks. That's really useful to know. At around 80USD for a 12mm cutter locally, this is a source I will try, especially when you are saying you have

Re: [Emc-users] 3d printed nut pockets #$%^

2020-07-25 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 25 July 2020 09:00:52 andy pugh wrote: > On Sat, 25 Jul 2020 at 13:50, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > There should never need to be support in a through-hole. (what is > > > it supporting?) > > > > This is something I found on thingiverse searching for harmonic > > drive. > > Support is

Re: [Emc-users] 3d printed nut pockets #$%^

2020-07-25 Thread andy pugh
On Sat, 25 Jul 2020 at 13:50, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > There should never need to be support in a through-hole. (what is it > > supporting?) > > This is something I found on thingiverse searching for harmonic drive. Support is added by the slicer. You can control where it is inserted. (to an

Re: [Emc-users] 3d printed nut pockets #$%^

2020-07-25 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 25 July 2020 07:03:29 andy pugh wrote: > On Sat, 25 Jul 2020 at 11:22, Gene Heskett wrote: > > thru hole had been left empty but the other 6 thru holes have > > support in them > > There should never need to be support in a through-hole. (what is it > supporting?) This is something

[Emc-users] Quiet toothed belts.

2020-07-25 Thread Roland Jollivet
For that size I would use an HTD 5M. Maybe a 8M (8mm pitch) A benefit too, us that most vehicles use this dimension for the cambelts, so you can easily get belts. And even scrapped pulleys that are still perfectly good. Pulleys are expensive and you can get a scrapped pulley for < $1 Then

Re: [Emc-users] Cutting plastic film

2020-07-25 Thread Les Newell
Depending on the plastic I'd first look at laser for this application. Don't laser PVC. PE and PP can be difficult unless it is very thin. Drag or tangential knife would be my second choice. You'll need some way to hold the sheet down. Simply taping down the edges may work. For thinner more

Re: [Emc-users] Cutting plastic film

2020-07-25 Thread N
> On Sat, 25 Jul 2020 at 12:05, N wrote: > > > Square outline with four or six square holes is the most important but it > > might be I want to cover another surface with slighlty more complicated > > form and mor holes. Need only four of them right now for prototypes and > > maybe 30-40

Re: [Emc-users] Cutting plastic film

2020-07-25 Thread Bruce Layne
While I wouldn't want to discourage anyone from getting a CNC router or laser, as a little exercise in outside the box thinking, 3D printing these insulator sheets would be a fairly trivial exercise.  I sometimes print first layer calibration test squares on a flat glass bed.  Dial in the bed

Re: [Emc-users] Cutting plastic film

2020-07-25 Thread andy pugh
On Sat, 25 Jul 2020 at 12:05, N wrote: > Square outline with four or six square holes is the most important but it > might be I want to cover another surface with slighlty more complicated form > and mor holes. Need only four of them right now for prototypes and maybe > 30-40 later on. Laser

Re: [Emc-users] Cutting plastic film

2020-07-25 Thread N
> On Sat, 25 Jul 2020 at 09:10, N wrote: > > > Need to cut plastic films for electrical isolation. > > What sort of shapes? How many pieces a day and in total? Square outline with four or six square holes is the most important but it might be I want to cover another surface with slighlty more

Re: [Emc-users] 3d printed nut pockets #$%^

2020-07-25 Thread andy pugh
On Sat, 25 Jul 2020 at 11:22, Gene Heskett wrote: > thru hole had been left empty but the other 6 thru holes have support in > them There should never need to be support in a through-hole. (what is it supporting?) -- atp "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is designed

[Emc-users] 3d printed nut pockets #$%^

2020-07-25 Thread Gene Heskett
Greetings all; I just pulled the first body off the plate, and was trying to clean out the nut pockets. I did well on the 6 that bolt the ring gear in, as the thru hole had been left empty but the other 6 thru holes have support in them and the pocket fillers can't be dug out. So I'll likely

Re: [Emc-users] Cutting plastic film

2020-07-25 Thread andy pugh
On Sat, 25 Jul 2020 at 09:10, N wrote: > Need to cut plastic films for electrical isolation. What sort of shapes? How many pieces a day and in total? -- atp "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is designed for the especial use of mechanical geniuses, daredevils and

Re: [Emc-users] Cutting plastic film

2020-07-25 Thread N
> On Sat, 25 Jul 2020 at 01:48, Matthew Herd wrote: > > > > I did some reading. Here’s a much cheaper one. > > https://www.amazon.com/Carbide-Housing-Silhouette-Machines-Portrait/dp/B07LBN6Y89 > > Yes, that is also in pen-plotter format. Have an engraver and a CNC machine, engraver spindle

Re: [Emc-users] Cutting plastic film

2020-07-25 Thread andrew beck
You can buy your router bits from China if you want. I bring in probably 15k usd per year. My supplier sells ultra sharp endmills or single flute router cutters for like 3usd. Often for routers and custom form tools they are better than the branded stuff here that costs 30 nzd. Anyway just

Re: [Emc-users] Cutting plastic film

2020-07-25 Thread Marcus Bowman
I bought a cheap drag knife some time ago, from a far off land, but I have not yet used it, because: (a) it does need routines for turning corners, and (b) upon inspection, I decided that a critical factor is likely to be the ability of the knife to swivel very freely; and this cheap one didn't.