Re: [Emc-users] A clarifying post that might help another victum of poor Chinese docs.

2020-12-30 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 30 December 2020 10:40:18 andy pugh wrote: > On Wed, 30 Dec 2020 at 14:58, Gene Heskett wrote: > > The only place I can think of might be the motors pole > > count in pd143=4 so I'll check it at a 2 setting. Factory is 04. > > Didn't help, made it worse, > > hy_vfd needs to know

Re: [Emc-users] Chinese VFDs with good reputations

2020-12-30 Thread Eric Keller
On Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 1:20 AM Gene Heskett wrote: > Most are HuanYang, and decent, reliable stuff. I'm using 2 of them. > >From what I can tell, most of the HuanYang vfd's on ebay are copies. HuanYang uses a module for the high power stage, most of the cheap ones are using discretes. They

Re: [Emc-users] Great display of 28-axis machine control - totally OT

2020-12-30 Thread dave engvall
Boston Dynamics has a good utube staring Spot and Adam Savage of Myth Busters. On 12/30/20 11:22 AM, Chris Albertson wrote: Altas is hydraulic. It has 28 hydraulic actuators and one battery-powered pump. The battery is 3.7 KWH size They say it runs for about an hour. So he is burning

Re: [Emc-users] Great display of 28-axis machine control - totally OT

2020-12-30 Thread Chris Albertson
Altas is hydraulic. It has 28 hydraulic actuators and one battery-powered pump. The battery is 3.7 KWH size They say it runs for about an hour. So he is burning 3.7 Kw The robot would heat a good size room. The yellow dog "Spot" is 100% electric with custom BLDC motors, 3 in each leg. On

Re: [Emc-users] Great display of 28-axis machine control - totally OT

2020-12-30 Thread Gregg Eshelman via Emc-users
Robot technology has come a long way, though Sony had dancing robots 2003 to 2006 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPW6Z1CbPho Dunno why Sony quit the AIBO and QRIO robots. AIBO dog was only sold in limited numbers and they never marketed the QRIO bipedal robot. On Wednesday, December 30,

Re: [Emc-users] Chinese VFDs with good reputations

2020-12-30 Thread John Dammeyer
I get mine direct from Bergerda (3 just arrived yesterday). Payment is via credit card on Alibaba. Shipping is an arm and a leg for FedEx. But then often shipping into Canada from some of these sites also lists between $80 and $130 for a $200 drive so hard to say. Found out they were also

Re: [Emc-users] Great display of 28-axis machine control - totally OT

2020-12-30 Thread Dave Cole
Who is the Department of Defense working with on war fighting robots now? Apparently not Boston Dynamics? Dave On 12/30/2020 9:07 AM, Andrew wrote: ср, 30 груд. 2020 о 04:22 Chris Albertson пише: https://youtu.be/fn3KWM1kuAw Recently Hyundai Motor Group acquired 80% of Boston Dynamics for

Re: [Emc-users] Chinese VFDs with good reputations

2020-12-30 Thread Dave Cole
I usually include a input power line filter on servo and VFD applications if there is a computer or PLC involved.  I've done a few machines without drive input filters and noise problems have bit me.    Fixing the problem after the fact costs more in wasted time than the cost of the filter/s.

Re: [Emc-users] A clarifying post that might help another victum of poor Chinese docs.

2020-12-30 Thread andy pugh
On Wed, 30 Dec 2020 at 14:58, Gene Heskett wrote: > The only place I can think of might be the motors pole > count in pd143=4 so I'll check it at a 2 setting. Factory is 04. Didn't > help, made it worse, hy_vfd needs to know the pole-count too. It _should_ read PD143, so the first question is

Re: [Emc-users] A clarifying post that might help another victum of poor Chinese docs.

2020-12-30 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 29 December 2020 08:34:33 Todd Zuercher wrote: > Sounds like you've got it sorted now. > > I struggled with and lived with what seemed like continuous com errors > for years with Mb2hal and the Lenze VFDs I have. I could not figure > it out. It turned out the problem was LinuxCNC

Re: [Emc-users] Great display of 28-axis machine control - totally OT

2020-12-30 Thread Andrew
ср, 30 груд. 2020 о 04:22 Chris Albertson пише: > > https://youtu.be/fn3KWM1kuAw > > Recently Hyundai Motor Group acquired 80% of Boston Dynamics for $880 million. So the next dance might be Korean. Or, they might learn Taekwondo. ___ Emc-users

Re: [Emc-users] Great display of 28-axis machine control - totally OT

2020-12-30 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 30 December 2020 02:35:56 marcus.bow...@visible.eclipse.co.uk wrote: > On 2020-12-30 02:20, Chris Albertson wrote: > > This is I think to date the best display of machine motion > > programming ever > > > > https://youtu.be/fn3KWM1kuAw > > Truly outstanding. > The Lead Programmer

Re: [Emc-users] Chinese VFDs with good reputations

2020-12-30 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 30 December 2020 02:23:18 Mark Johnsen wrote: > Hey Gene, > > I would agree - output filters on a VFD would not be a good idea. I > was thinking of Input Line filters to the VFD. If I recall, the VFD > can send back noise on the input lines which can be picked up by other > stuff,

Re: [Emc-users] Great display of 28-axis machine control - totally OT

2020-12-30 Thread Les Newell
I saw this shortly after it came out. At the time I wondered if they were using hydraulics on Atlas. At one point you can see what looks suspiciously like some liquid was spilled on the floor. Looks like one of the robots sprung a leak during testing. Incredible motion control. They've come a

Re: [Emc-users] Great display of 28-axis machine control - totally OT

2020-12-30 Thread andy pugh
On Wed, 30 Dec 2020 at 02:22, Chris Albertson wrote: > https://youtu.be/fn3KWM1kuAw A comment from elsewhere "Give them 20 years and they will be dancing on a floor of skulls" -- atp "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is designed for the especial use of mechanical

Re: [Emc-users] Chinese VFDs with good reputations

2020-12-30 Thread David Berndt
Hi John, You've got me a bit interested in these drives. I'm currently looking for the biggest single phase servo I can easily find, looks like the Bergerda 1.8 or maybe even 2.6kw might be it. But it's always a bit hard to tell with the lower quality documentation these companies provide.

Re: [Emc-users] Chinese VFDs with good reputations

2020-12-30 Thread John Dammeyer
Input line filters are suggested for a lot of systems that might emit noise back into the power line. John > -Original Message- > From: Mark Johnsen [mailto:m...@ijohnsen.com] > Sent: December-29-20 11:23 PM > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Chinese

Re: [Emc-users] Chinese VFDs with good reputations

2020-12-30 Thread Mark Johnsen
Hey Gene, I would agree - output filters on a VFD would not be a good idea. I was thinking of Input Line filters to the VFD. If I recall, the VFD can send back noise on the input lines which can be picked up by other stuff, either power supplies, computers, or I/O points and cause issues.