Re: [Emc-users] OT: novel 3+ n axes

2023-11-24 Thread gene heskett
On 11/24/23 02:43, gene heskett wrote: On 11/23/23 22:16, gene heskett wrote: [...] My rotary table was not expensive, but it has an adjustment on the depth of engagement of the worm, to allow backlash to be reduced. I thought that was a fairly common arrangement. Seems to be std, my 4" tabl

Re: [Emc-users] OT: novel 3+ n axes

2023-11-24 Thread Gregg Eshelman via Emc-users
Can get 1 and 0.5 degree positioning with 360 teeth and two locks, with one lock spaced n+0.5 degrees away. Start at zero degrees, turn 10 then engage the lock that's at zero. Drill, then turn 22.5 degrees and engage the other lock which is at  20.5 degrees. Could further increase the options w

Re: [Emc-users] OT: novel 3+ n axes

2023-11-23 Thread gene heskett
On 11/23/23 22:16, gene heskett wrote: On 11/23/23 17:22, marcus.bow...@visible.eclipse.co.uk wrote: On 2023-11-23 21:18, Chris Albertson wrote: Yes, a magnet and a steel disk is the simplest possible design.  If you don’t need indexing.  Nothing would move.  The disk could slide over the magn

Re: [Emc-users] OT: novel 3+ n axes

2023-11-23 Thread gene heskett
On 11/23/23 17:22, marcus.bow...@visible.eclipse.co.uk wrote: On 2023-11-23 21:18, Chris Albertson wrote: Yes, a magnet and a steel disk is the simplest possible design.  If you don’t need indexing.  Nothing would move.  The disk could slide over the magnet and then when energized the sliding w

Re: [Emc-users] OT: novel 3+ n axes

2023-11-23 Thread gene heskett
On 11/23/23 16:19, Chris Albertson wrote: Yes, a magnet and a steel disk is the simplest possible design. If you don’t need indexing. Nothing would move. The disk could slide over the magnet and then when energized the sliding would stop. The slop issue is normally solved by always rotating

Re: [Emc-users] OT: novel 3+ n axes

2023-11-23 Thread gene heskett
On 11/23/23 15:40, Ryan McIntosh wrote: If you are going to clamp a metal disc with anything, use an electromagnet... But if it's a worm drive with that much slop, I guarantee there's some improvement to be found by controlling the thrust movement of the pinion gear. Inserting a shim (could be

Re: [Emc-users] OT: novel 3+ n axes

2023-11-23 Thread gene heskett
On 11/23/23 14:26, Chris Albertson wrote: On Nov 22, 2023, at 1:06 PM, gene heskett wrote: I'd have to agree Andy. I need to design a disk brake for my A axis as there's half a degree of slop in the worm drive which if it gets to the motor will be held, but the slop in the worm makes fo

Re: [Emc-users] OT: novel 3+ n axes

2023-11-23 Thread andy pugh
On Thu, 23 Nov 2023 at 20:42, Ryan McIntosh wrote: > > If you are going to clamp a metal disc with anything, use an > electromagnet. Maybe re-purpose parts of a car air-conditioning clutch. (I am sure that these have loads of applications, as they can clamp and release while rotating, though tha

Re: [Emc-users] OT: novel 3+ n axes

2023-11-23 Thread marcus . bowman
On 2023-11-23 21:18, Chris Albertson wrote: Yes, a magnet and a steel disk is the simplest possible design. If you don’t need indexing. Nothing would move. The disk could slide over the magnet and then when energized the sliding would stop. The slop issue is normally solved by always rotatin

Re: [Emc-users] OT: novel 3+ n axes

2023-11-23 Thread Chris Albertson
Yes, a magnet and a steel disk is the simplest possible design. If you don’t need indexing. Nothing would move. The disk could slide over the magnet and then when energized the sliding would stop. The slop issue is normally solved by always rotating in one direction so maybe it could be con

Re: [Emc-users] OT: novel 3+ n axes

2023-11-23 Thread gene heskett
On 11/23/23 14:26, Chris Albertson wrote: On Nov 22, 2023, at 1:06 PM, gene heskett wrote: I'd have to agree Andy. I need to design a disk brake for my A axis as there's half a degree of slop in the worm drive which if it gets to the motor will be held, but the slop in the worm makes fo

Re: [Emc-users] OT: novel 3+ n axes

2023-11-23 Thread Ryan McIntosh
If you are going to clamp a metal disc with anything, use an electromagnet... But if it's a worm drive with that much slop, I guarantee there's some improvement to be found by controlling the thrust movement of the pinion gear. Inserting a shim (could be punched out of an old set of feeler guages

Re: [Emc-users] OT: novel 3+ n axes

2023-11-23 Thread Chris Albertson
> On Nov 22, 2023, at 1:06 PM, gene heskett wrote: >> > I'd have to agree Andy. I need to design a disk brake for my A axis as > there's half a degree of slop in the worm drive which if it gets to the motor > will be held, but the slop in the worm makes for sloppy looking holes, but > the a

Re: [Emc-users] OT: novel 3+ n axes

2023-11-23 Thread Thomas J Powderly
I remember a customer bumping a geneva gear tool changer using the side of the platen that held the electrode bumpint would index the tool he used gcode on a Fanuc/Elox sink edm. yeah i suppose a machine tool _is_ an expensive motor but shows people are clever tomp On 11/23/23 04:06, gene h

Re: [Emc-users] OT: novel 3+ n axes

2023-11-22 Thread gene heskett
On 11/22/23 15:13, andy pugh wrote: On Wed, 22 Nov 2023 at 19:15, Roland Jollivet wrote: Interesting, and it looks rigid enough for real work.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4r4_uo6ZrAE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztW4JIbLSMs Quite a clever idea for machines with closed controllers an

Re: [Emc-users] OT: novel 3+ n axes

2023-11-22 Thread Chris Albertson
Wh > On Nov 22, 2023, at 12:12 PM, andy pugh wrote: > > Quite a clever idea for machines with closed controllers and no easy > way to provide motor power into the workspace. > > With LinuxCNC it's probably always going to be better to be fully motorised. What about cost? If this device is che

Re: [Emc-users] OT: novel 3+ n axes

2023-11-22 Thread andy pugh
On Wed, 22 Nov 2023 at 19:15, Roland Jollivet wrote: > > Interesting, and it looks rigid enough for real work.. > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4r4_uo6ZrAE > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztW4JIbLSMs Quite a clever idea for machines with closed controllers and no easy way to provide motor p

[Emc-users] OT: novel 3+ n axes

2023-11-22 Thread Roland Jollivet
Interesting, and it looks rigid enough for real work.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4r4_uo6ZrAE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztW4JIbLSMs ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-us