Re: [Emc-users] Just a Thought

2007-08-16 Thread paul_c
Hi Ray On Tuesday 14 August 2007 15:45, Ray Henry wrote: There was a heated discussion at that long ago FEST meeting in Ann Arbor when we created the EMC board.  It was related to it's (us) becoming a legal entity. Outside of the USA, any entity would have little, if any power or status.

Re: [Emc-users] Just a Thought

2007-08-15 Thread Mark Pictor
Rayh wrote: So the easy answer is we could work up some sort of survey but most of our users, once they get the kinks/configurations worked out for their machines are never heard from again. One solution would be to have EMC bug the user after so many hours of run time (or so many days

Re: [Emc-users] Just a Thought

2007-08-15 Thread Mark Pictor
--- Ray Henry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi guys. These posts bring to mind two long running thoughts, one directly related to EMC and one not quite so related. There was a heated discussion at that long ago FEST meeting in Ann Arbor when we created the EMC board. It was related to

Re: [Emc-users] Just a Thought

2007-08-15 Thread Ray Henry
Hi Ben On Wed, 2007-08-15 at 04:09 +, ben lipkowitz wrote: I want to make sure people are aware that these _are_ two distinct ideas and that one is not reliant on the other. I think it would be a bad idea for the two to be directly associated as there will eventually be conflicts of

Re: [Emc-users] Just a Thought-standards

2007-08-15 Thread Javid Butler
I mean it's really hard to actually read it, once you've paid the $15k or so to actually get the documents. (You can get an idea by looking at the draft standards.) This is done so the people who wrote the standards get to keep their jobs as the people who read and explain the standards to

Re: [Emc-users] Just a Thought

2007-08-15 Thread Jon Elson
ben lipkowitz wrote: We tried to make a map where the users could place a pin at their location, I don't know what has happened to it. what ever has happened to the map ( google map if I remember right ) that even had pic's of users equipment ? the map is here: http://www.frappr.com/emc2

Re: [Emc-users] Just a Thought (a reply to Javid)

2007-08-15 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Tue, 2007-08-14 at 20:45 -0500, Javid Butler wrote: I have been meaning to ask you about who fabricates your pcb's. I need to have a few RS-422 transmitter and receiver boards made. Kirk- Can you elaborate on what you need? ...snip Anyway, please tell us more about what you need and

Re: [Emc-users] Just a Thought

2007-08-15 Thread Jason Cox
This could also be because Adobe havent released a 64bit version and the 32bit dosn't play nicely with any 64bit browsers. It has killed some things for me, but thats there loss Jason On Wed, 2007-08-15 at 21:56 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: On Wednesday 15 August 2007, Jon Elson wrote: ben

Re: [Emc-users] Just a Thought

2007-08-15 Thread Jon Elson
Gene Heskett wrote: On Wednesday 15 August 2007, Jon Elson wrote: ben lipkowitz wrote: We tried to make a map where the users could place a pin at their location, I don't know what has happened to it. what ever has happened to the map ( google map if I remember right ) that even had pic's of

Re: [Emc-users] Just a Thought

2007-08-14 Thread Tom Eberhard
(lurk mode off) It might work, but coordinating that many people seems complicated. The best option is for you to decide to get started. Make something and sell it on ebay, and declare that a portion of the profits go to EMC after you cover your material and time. As you make progress towards

Re: [Emc-users] Just a Thought

2007-08-14 Thread Ray Henry
Hi guys. These posts bring to mind two long running thoughts, one directly related to EMC and one not quite so related. There was a heated discussion at that long ago FEST meeting in Ann Arbor when we created the EMC board. It was related to it's (us) becoming a legal entity. It was my

Re: [Emc-users] Just a Thought

2007-08-14 Thread Jon Elson
Ray Henry wrote: Second thought is connected to the idea of web mediated manufacturing. Yep someone would need to take the lead at least on a per product basis. That person would probably never make the kind of wages that a product coordinator (vice president) might make in a traditional

Re: [Emc-users] Just a Thought

2007-08-14 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 14 August 2007, Ray Henry wrote: Hi guys. These posts bring to mind two long running thoughts, one directly related to EMC and one not quite so related. There was a heated discussion at that long ago FEST meeting in Ann Arbor when we created the EMC board. It was related to it's (us)

Re: [Emc-users] Just a Thought

2007-08-14 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Tue, 2007-08-14 at 11:54 -0500, Jon Elson wrote: ... snip I also have a surface-mount pick and place machine running, and a thermocouple-controlled toaster oven for solder reflow. So, if someone has some little board they need assembled, like the pendant mentioned above, I could do that.

Re: [Emc-users] Just a Thought

2007-08-14 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Tue, 2007-08-14 at 13:26 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: ... snip I also like the web based production idea, but would it not be required that there was some sort of test be done to qualify that users machine setup as being able to do that from nothing but the gcode and the correct raw

Re: [Emc-users] Just a Thought

2007-08-14 Thread d06
Kirk Wallace wrote: Would money actually help promote EMC? Maybe barter would be better. A developer needs something. Puts in a request for it on the wiki. Some one needing let's say,a control panel engraved agrees to send the something if some else agrees to engrave the panel. Maybe a

Re: [Emc-users] Just a Thought

2007-08-14 Thread Ray Henry
Hi Kirk I snipped your post and mixed in a couple of comments. On Tue, 2007-08-14 at 14:24 -0600, d06 wrote: s My router/mill would not be able to do much as far as commercial quality production: http://www.marion.us/dave/emcmill/index.html This is just a hobby for me right now, Nice job.

Re: [Emc-users] Just a Thought

2007-08-14 Thread Ray Henry
On Tue, 2007-08-14 at 13:26 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: s Well Ray, I don't know if those in charge would think I'm qualified to even comment since I'm just an old fart user, Oh yea. You have a keen mind for many of the user questions. s I also like the web based production idea, but would

Re: [Emc-users] Just a Thought

2007-08-14 Thread Javid Butler
I have been meaning to ask you about who fabricates your pcb's. I need to have a few RS-422 transmitter and receiver boards made. Kirk- Can you elaborate on what you need? I've got a wide variety of boards that use RS-422 or RS-485, from simple optical isolators to boards with various

Re: [Emc-users] Just a Thought

2007-08-14 Thread Javid Butler
I wonder if it isn't time to rethink the legal entity. It might work as a non-profit, something like a trade association. This would eliminate many of the legal risks, because the legal entity would not be directly producing anything but would rather be promoting the use of an open-source

Re: [Emc-users] Just a Thought - my two cents

2007-08-14 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 14 August 2007, Jarl Stefansson wrote: I would think about this long and hard before committing, having a legal entity opens up the possibility of getting sued in any number of countries where (software) patents are enforceable. Good point. As EMC becomes more popular I would imagine

Re: [Emc-users] Just a Thought

2007-08-14 Thread ben lipkowitz
These posts bring to mind two long running thoughts, one directly related to EMC and one not quite so related. I want to make sure people are aware that these _are_ two distinct ideas and that one is not reliant on the other. I think it would be a bad idea for the two to be directly

Re: [Emc-users] Just a Thought

2007-08-14 Thread Jon Elson
Kirk Wallace wrote: I have been meaning to ask you about who fabricates your pcb's. I need to have a few RS-422 transmitter and receiver boards made. I would think these would be a good open project. I use E-teknet in AZ mostly. They do all work in China, but have an office in the US.

Re: [Emc-users] Just a Thought

2007-08-14 Thread Jason Cox
On Tue, 2007-08-14 at 23:24 -0500, Jon Elson wrote: We tried to make a map where the users could place a pin at their location, I don't know what has happened to it. what ever has happened to the map ( google map if I remember right ) that even had pic's of users equipment ? Jason

Re: [Emc-users] Just a Thought

2007-08-14 Thread ben lipkowitz
We tried to make a map where the users could place a pin at their location, I don't know what has happened to it. what ever has happened to the map ( google map if I remember right ) that even had pic's of users equipment ? the map is here: http://www.frappr.com/emc2

[Emc-users] Just a Thought

2007-08-13 Thread Kirk Wallace
An idea popped into my head today. I was thinking that one way people like me, that may not have the skills to contribute to the development of EMC might be able to contribute in another way. What if we came up with products that would promote the use of EMC such as Jog wheels, beginner's or lab