Re: [Emc-users] Marketing LinuxCNC, was Re: Trajectory

2012-03-19 Thread Mark Wendt
gt; >> -Original Message- >> From: Mark Wendt [mailto:mark.we...@nrl.navy.mil] >> Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 4:02 AM >> To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) >> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Marketing LinuxCNC, was Re: Trajectory >> >> On 03/18/2

Re: [Emc-users] Marketing LinuxCNC, was Re: Trajectory

2012-03-19 Thread Steve Stallings
nced Machine Controller (EMC) > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Marketing LinuxCNC, was Re: Trajectory > > On 03/18/2012 01:28 PM, Jon Elson wrote: > > Mark Wendt (Contractor) wrote: > > > >> Tentative > >> dates for the CNC workshop? > >> > >>

Re: [Emc-users] Marketing LinuxCNC, was Re: Trajectory

2012-03-19 Thread Mark Wendt
On 03/18/2012 01:28 PM, Jon Elson wrote: > Mark Wendt (Contractor) wrote: > >> Tentative >> dates for the CNC workshop? >> >> > Here's the official link at Village Press, the sponsor and coordinator : > http://www.digitalmachinist.net/workshop?noredirect=true&noredirect=true > > Jon >

Re: [Emc-users] Marketing LinuxCNC, was Re: Trajectory

2012-03-18 Thread Jon Elson
Mark Wendt (Contractor) wrote: > Tentative > dates for the CNC workshop? > Here's the official link at Village Press, the sponsor and coordinator : http://www.digitalmachinist.net/workshop?noredirect=true&noredirect=true Jon ---

Re: [Emc-users] Marketing LinuxCNC, was Re: Trajectory

2012-03-18 Thread Jon Elson
gene heskett wrote: > On Sunday, March 18, 2012 05:08:57 AM Jon Elson did opine: > > >> gene heskett wrote: >> >>> Thanks Ron. That is only about 5 weeks down the road, we'll have to >>> see about that. What part of MI is Wyandotte in? >>> >> (Very) Slightly West of Detroit. >> >>

Re: [Emc-users] Marketing LinuxCNC, was Re: Trajectory

2012-03-18 Thread Dave
Wyandotte is actually "downriver" from Detroit, just off I-75 - down the Detroit river. "Downriver" is a common description Detroiters use to describe the hinterlands to the south of Detroit. I drove past Wyandotte yesterday going from Plymouth, MI to Dearborn, MI (they have some excellent ba

Re: [Emc-users] Marketing LinuxCNC, was Re: Trajectory

2012-03-18 Thread Mark Wendt (Contractor)
On 3/17/2012 5:50 PM, Ron Ginger wrote: > On 3/17/2012 4:12 PM, emc-users-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net wrote: > >>In fact, my GMC fired up an hour ago for the >> first time in several months, with a fresh engine in it, so hitting NAMES >> might not be out of the question if they hold one t

Re: [Emc-users] Marketing LinuxCNC, was Re: Trajectory planning and other topics from a EMC(LinuxCNC) newbie

2012-03-18 Thread Mark Wendt (Contractor)
On 3/17/2012 4:06 PM, gene heskett wrote: >> Gene, >> >> Support is one of the things I mentioned, and IMO, probably one of our >> more important things to market. We do have a bunch of different >> channels available for support, from this mailing list, to the IRC, to >> our own forum and to the

Re: [Emc-users] Marketing LinuxCNC, was Re: Trajectory

2012-03-18 Thread gene heskett
On Sunday, March 18, 2012 05:08:57 AM Jon Elson did opine: > gene heskett wrote: > > Thanks Ron. That is only about 5 weeks down the road, we'll have to > > see about that. What part of MI is Wyandotte in? > > (Very) Slightly West of Detroit. > > Jon That would be a two day drive each way for

Re: [Emc-users] Marketing LinuxCNC, was Re: Trajectory

2012-03-17 Thread Jon Elson
gene heskett wrote: > Thanks Ron. That is only about 5 weeks down the road, we'll have to see > about that. What part of MI is Wyandotte in? > (Very) Slightly West of Detroit. Jon -- This SF email is sponsosred by:

Re: [Emc-users] Marketing LinuxCNC, was Re: Trajectory

2012-03-17 Thread gene heskett
On Saturday, March 17, 2012 08:13:59 PM Ron Ginger did opine: > On 3/17/2012 4:12 PM, emc-users-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net wrote: > > In fact, my GMC fired up an hour ago for the > > > > first time in several months, with a fresh engine in it, so hitting > > NAMES might not be out of the que

Re: [Emc-users] Marketing LinuxCNC, was Re: Trajectory planning and other topics from a EMC(LinuxCNC) newbie

2012-03-17 Thread Jon Elson
gene heskett wrote: > There are quite a goodly number of folks on this list and/or IRC, that I > owe a hand cooler to, and if I ever get under the same roof, I'll see to > it no one has a smoking hand. In fact, my GMC fired up an hour ago for the > first time in several months, with a fresh en

Re: [Emc-users] Marketing LinuxCNC, was Re: Trajectory

2012-03-17 Thread Ron Ginger
On 3/17/2012 4:12 PM, emc-users-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net wrote: > In fact, my GMC fired up an hour ago for the > first time in several months, with a fresh engine in it, so hitting NAMES > might not be out of the question if they hold one this summer. > > Cheers, Gene NAMES is April 21, 22

Re: [Emc-users] Marketing LinuxCNC, was Re: Trajectory planning and other topics from a EMC(LinuxCNC) newbie

2012-03-17 Thread gene heskett
On Saturday, March 17, 2012 04:01:38 PM Mark Wendt (Contractor) did opine: > On 3/17/2012 9:34 AM, gene heskett wrote: > >> Stuart, > >> > >> Marketing is marketing, whether for profit or for non-profit. Even > >> if free, you still want to be able to "give" it away. Like Kent > >> mentioned, C

Re: [Emc-users] Marketing LinuxCNC, was Re: Trajectory planning and other topics from a EMC(LinuxCNC) newbie

2012-03-17 Thread Greg Bernard
Saturday, March 17, 2012 9:19 AM >Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Marketing LinuxCNC, was Re: Trajectory planning and >other topics from a EMC(LinuxCNC) newbie > >As a relative LinuxCNC newbie, I can say that a more clear presentation of >the capabilities of the system would have made i

Re: [Emc-users] Marketing LinuxCNC, was Re: Trajectory planning and other topics from a EMC(LinuxCNC) newbie

2012-03-17 Thread Mark Wendt (Contractor)
On 3/17/2012 9:36 AM, Stuart Stevenson wrote: >>> >> Stuart, >> >> Marketing is marketing, whether for profit or for non-profit. Even if >> free, you still want to be able to "give" it away. Like Kent mentioned, >> Case Studies and perhaps Testimonials are our "Free" advertising. >> That'

Re: [Emc-users] Marketing LinuxCNC, was Re: Trajectory planning and other topics from a EMC(LinuxCNC) newbie

2012-03-17 Thread Mark Wendt (Contractor)
On 3/17/2012 9:34 AM, gene heskett wrote: >> Stuart, >> >> Marketing is marketing, whether for profit or for non-profit. Even if >> free, you still want to be able to "give" it away. Like Kent mentioned, >> Case Studies and perhaps Testimonials are our "Free" advertising. >> That's the kind of st

Re: [Emc-users] Marketing LinuxCNC, was Re: Trajectory planning and other topics from a EMC(LinuxCNC) newbie

2012-03-17 Thread Scott Hasse
As a relative LinuxCNC newbie, I can say that a more clear presentation of the capabilities of the system would have made it less daunting to choose LinuxCNC. As a hobby CNC user, I had been exposed to probably 20 half-baked open source CAM tools/packages and been impressed with a total of zero.

Re: [Emc-users] Marketing LinuxCNC, was Re: Trajectory planning and other topics from a EMC(LinuxCNC) newbie

2012-03-17 Thread gene heskett
On Saturday, March 17, 2012 09:05:00 AM Mark Wendt (Contractor) did opine: > On 3/16/2012 10:31 PM, Stuart Stevenson wrote: > > Gentlemen, > > > >Just how do you 'market' a free item/product? The free LinuxCNC > >software > > > > is not even a loss leader. The whole thing is free - all t

Re: [Emc-users] Marketing LinuxCNC, was Re: Trajectory planning and other topics from a EMC(LinuxCNC) newbie

2012-03-17 Thread Stuart Stevenson
Gentlemen, On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 6:25 AM, Mark Wendt (Contractor) < mark.we...@nrl.navy.mil> wrote: > On 3/16/2012 10:31 PM, Stuart Stevenson wrote: > > Gentlemen, > >Just how do you 'market' a free item/product? The free LinuxCNC > software > > is not even a loss leader. The whole thing is

Re: [Emc-users] Marketing LinuxCNC, was Re: Trajectory planning and other topics from a EMC(LinuxCNC) newbie

2012-03-17 Thread Mark Wendt (Contractor)
On 3/16/2012 10:31 PM, Stuart Stevenson wrote: > Gentlemen, >Just how do you 'market' a free item/product? The free LinuxCNC software > is not even a loss leader. The whole thing is free - all the time - even > the advice - even the help. >Just asking. > thanks > Stuart > Stuart, Marke

Re: [Emc-users] Marketing LinuxCNC, was Re: Trajectory planning and other topics from a EMC(LinuxCNC) newbie

2012-03-17 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2012/3/17 charles green : > if possible, i would like a complete list of cost insensitive customers. :))) What I meant is the top priority of the customer - if cost is the one and only criterion or maybe some other things are considered equally or even more important... LinuxCNC is best fit not

Re: [Emc-users] Marketing LinuxCNC, was Re: Trajectory planning and other topics from a EMC(LinuxCNC) newbie

2012-03-17 Thread charles green
if possible, i would like a complete list of cost insensitive customers. --- On Sat, 3/17/12, Viesturs Lācis wrote: > From: Viesturs Lācis > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Marketing LinuxCNC, was Re: Trajectory planning and > other topics from a EMC(LinuxCNC) newbie > To: "

Re: [Emc-users] Marketing LinuxCNC, was Re: Trajectory planning and other topics from a EMC(LinuxCNC) newbie

2012-03-17 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2012/3/17 Jack Coats : > > What companies seem to want to purchase is not 'software' and > 'hardware'.  They want solutions. Yes, exactly! Unfortunately my clients tend to ask, what kind of solution they are paying for and what am I going to implement and then it would be nice to show them a page,

Re: [Emc-users] Marketing LinuxCNC, was Re: Trajectory planning and other topics from a EMC(LinuxCNC) newbie

2012-03-17 Thread Jan de Kruyf
clap, clap, clap . . . . . . I second the motion. If and when I have some free time I might knock up a quick flyer based on these notions. Obviously for others to add on to. We will need some real clean shiny pictures though. Close-ups work very well. Are there volunteers? j. On Sat, Mar 17,

Re: [Emc-users] Marketing LinuxCNC, was Re: Trajectory planning and other topics from a EMC(LinuxCNC) newbie

2012-03-16 Thread Jack Coats
I worked for a company where we did 'market open software'. We sold Asterisk based VOIP telephone PBX systems. They were 'white box' hardware (generic, nothing special) systems, with Linux, Asterisk, and other support software all installed, integrated, configured for the customers. There was NO

Re: [Emc-users] Marketing LinuxCNC, was Re: Trajectory planning and other topics from a EMC(LinuxCNC) newbie

2012-03-16 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 3/16/2012 10:31 PM, Stuart Stevenson wrote: > Gentlemen, >Just how do you 'market' a free item/product? The free LinuxCNC software > is not even a loss leader. The whole thing is free - all the time - even > the advice - even the help. >Just asking. > thanks > Stuart > Stuart: When I wa

Re: [Emc-users] Marketing LinuxCNC, was Re: Trajectory planning and other topics from a EMC(LinuxCNC) newbie

2012-03-16 Thread Jack Coats
'Selling free software' is hard. What a vendor 'sells' isn't open or free software. It is services. It is hardware. It is integration. It is training. It is support. Basically, it is time. It is NOT software. It can be 'glue' software they write, or 'customization'. I worked for a company t

Re: [Emc-users] Marketing LinuxCNC, was Re: Trajectory planning and other topics from a EMC(LinuxCNC) newbie

2012-03-16 Thread Stuart Stevenson
Gentlemen, Just how do you 'market' a free item/product? The free LinuxCNC software is not even a loss leader. The whole thing is free - all the time - even the advice - even the help. Just asking. thanks Stuart On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 8:23 PM, Kent A. Reed wrote: > On 3/16/2012 9:18 PM, Jon

Re: [Emc-users] Marketing LinuxCNC, was Re: Trajectory planning and other topics from a EMC(LinuxCNC) newbie

2012-03-16 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 3/16/2012 9:18 PM, Jon Elson wrote: > Kent A. Reed wrote: >> Wouldn't it be nice if someone could create a summary section that would >> catch the eye of folks like Roger. It might highlight the type of >> machine, its use (especially in production), and numbers like this one >> you just posted.

Re: [Emc-users] Marketing LinuxCNC, was Re: Trajectory planning and other topics from a EMC(LinuxCNC) newbie

2012-03-16 Thread Jon Elson
Kent A. Reed wrote: > > Wouldn't it be nice if someone could create a summary section that would > catch the eye of folks like Roger. It might highlight the type of > machine, its use (especially in production), and numbers like this one > you just posted. With a little thought, I think such a p

[Emc-users] Marketing LinuxCNC, was Re: Trajectory planning and other topics from a EMC(LinuxCNC) newbie

2012-03-16 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 3/16/2012 1:04 PM, Jon Elson wrote: >> 2012/3/15 Roger Holmquist: >> > Oh, I should mention that I have been using EMC since 1998, and have not > had one crash since mid 1998! So, that is coming up on 14 years of use! > (There was a bug that caused the GUI to lock up back in early 1998, but > i