Re: [Emc-users] SSD reliability

2020-07-04 Thread Dave Cole
I have a number of Samsung EVO SSDs running in production equipment.  They were either original or replacements for rotating drives. Most of these PCs are on 24x7 and I have yet to have a SSD failure. I think I started using Samsung SSD drives right after Samsung introduced them.  However I

Re: [Emc-users] SSD reliability --> wear out, faster boot time

2020-07-04 Thread N
> There's a bit of a glitch with the 2004 update when it comes to SSDs. > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffHIY6pOJUk > It continually insists an SSD has to be "optimized" but there's a way to fix > it. > > > On Friday, July 3, 2020, 11:34:30 AM MDT, Jon Elson > wrote: > > On

Re: [Emc-users] SSD reliability

2020-07-03 Thread Thaddeus Waldner
If you want to replace an apple ssd with a cheaper, better NVMe one, you can buy an adapter to do just that. I just did that and strangely enough, even though the original was a SATA, the NVMe device works fine.

Re: [Emc-users] SSD reliability

2020-07-03 Thread Gregg Eshelman via Emc-users
There's a bit of a glitch with the 2004 update when it comes to SSDs. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffHIY6pOJUk It continually insists an SSD has to be "optimized" but there's a way to fix it. On Friday, July 3, 2020, 11:34:30 AM MDT, Jon Elson wrote: On 07/03/2020 12:03 AM, linden

Re: [Emc-users] SSD reliability

2020-07-03 Thread Gregg Eshelman via Emc-users
Apple has used several different and incompatible slim SSD types in recent years. Now that they have finally adopted NVMe in the cheesegrater that costs as much as a car, they're still locking the buyer in. The computer comes with two modules installed but their serial numbers are programmed

Re: [Emc-users] SSD reliability

2020-07-03 Thread Curtis Dutton
I use SSD's in everything. I have had 1 fail. It was an A-DATA brand. I have an intel somewhere that is OK and majority Samsung drives, both M2 format and SATA. I have deployed quite a few of them for Customers in desktops and servers. Probably a total of 30 or so. No failures yet (Fingers

Re: [Emc-users] SSD reliability

2020-07-03 Thread Ted
I'm quite partial to traditional 2.5" SATA SSD's; I have about 30 servers with SAS/SATA slots running either Kingston or Sandisk 3Gb/s SSD's in 480Gb capacities. My home SAN runs 20 x 1TB SSD's (also Kingston) and if I rummage through my gig bag, I'll probably find half a dozen 1tb M2 SSD's in

Re: [Emc-users] SSD reliability

2020-07-03 Thread Jon Elson
On 07/03/2020 11:01 AM, Sam Sokolik wrote: I can't remember ever having an issue with any ssd I have used. My laptop which currently has a Samsung SSD 860 EVO M.2 1TB Power_On_Hours = 11845 My desktop SSD reports 57388 power-on hours. Jon ___

Re: [Emc-users] SSD reliability

2020-07-03 Thread Jon Elson
On 07/03/2020 12:03 AM, linden wrote: Hello All, Any one here have real world experience with reliability of Solid State Drives. I have been using SSDs in several systems. I have a travel laptop that has a small one, Ubuntu 14.04, I think. It gets relatively light use. My main

Re: [Emc-users] SSD reliability

2020-07-03 Thread linden
Thanks Guys for the help and insight i will run with this samsung ssd and see how far it gets me. I wont give up on ssds yet ;-) linden On 2020-07-03 9:28 a.m., Gene Heskett wrote: On Friday 03 July 2020 12:01:01 Sam Sokolik wrote: I can't remember ever having an issue with any ssd I have

Re: [Emc-users] SSD reliability

2020-07-03 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 03 July 2020 12:01:01 Sam Sokolik wrote: > I can't remember ever having an issue with any ssd I have used. My > laptop which currently has a Samsung SSD 860 EVO M.2 1TB > > Power_On_Hours = 11845 > Sam, I didn't think to ask my oldest ssd, but 9 Power_On_Hours23372 However:

Re: [Emc-users] SSD reliability

2020-07-03 Thread Sam Sokolik
I can't remember ever having an issue with any ssd I have used. My laptop which currently has a Samsung SSD 860 EVO M.2 1TB Power_On_Hours = 11845 I think all of our linuxcnc installed are on ssd's also. sam On Fri, Jul 3, 2020 at 8:24 AM Thaddeus Waldner wrote: > Be aware that M.2 is a

Re: [Emc-users] SSD reliability

2020-07-03 Thread Thaddeus Waldner
Be aware that M.2 is a socket spec that includes both SATA and NVMe type devices. https://www.atpinc.com/blog/what-is-m.2-M-B-BM-key-socket-3 Added to that, Apple began using PCIe drives before the NVMe standard was established, so there’s another socket to be confused about if you run Mac.

Re: [Emc-users] SSD reliability

2020-07-03 Thread Sync
Don't buy cheap or used SSDs, my experience is that those fail too early. I only run Intel or Samsung and have not had a hard failure in around 10 years. Sync ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net

Re: [Emc-users] SSD reliability

2020-07-03 Thread Gregg Eshelman via Emc-users
Yup, definitely want to disable all the logging Linux does. That's what's been bricking early Tesla Model S cars. They left logging on. The car computer runs Linux and it and the car software are installed on a non volatile storage soldered onto the computer board. As Tesla released updates and

Re: [Emc-users] SSD reliability

2020-07-03 Thread Gregg Eshelman via Emc-users
Two things for SSDs. Never defrag them because they don't need it and doing a defrag doesn't actually defrag files due to the wear leveling system that never allows files to be written to sequential blocks. Defragging them just wears them out faster. Same for multiple pass data erasing for

Re: [Emc-users] SSD reliability

2020-07-03 Thread linden
On 2020-07-03 12:20 a.m., Gene Heskett wrote: On Friday 03 July 2020 01:03:39 linden wrote: Hello All,     Any one here have real world experience with reliability of Solid State Drives. I have not had much luck with them my self and am wondering is this normal or am I the exception to

Re: [Emc-users] SSD reliability

2020-07-03 Thread linden
Thanks Chris for the insight into what may be going on. The PCIe interface sounds like a possible solution for machines that have PCI slots unfortunately with the laptop I am stuck with this sata interface we will see how this Samsung drive holds up with linux mint 20 On 2020-07-03 12:13

Re: [Emc-users] SSD reliability

2020-07-03 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 03 July 2020 01:03:39 linden wrote: > Hello All, > >     Any one here have real world experience with reliability of Solid > State Drives. > > I have not had much luck with them my self and am wondering is this > normal or am I the exception to the rule as if you believe the >

Re: [Emc-users] SSD reliability

2020-07-03 Thread Chris Albertson
Your results are atypical. It could be however the fault of the OS. Each bit in an SSD has a certain number of read/write cycles before it might fail. Some million of cycles. Back in the "old days" some OSes would write continously to the same place on the drive. For example you'd delete a

[Emc-users] SSD reliability

2020-07-02 Thread linden
Hello All,     Any one here have real world experience with reliability of Solid State Drives. I have not had much luck with them my self and am wondering is this normal or am I the exception to the rule as if you believe the advertising they should last almost for ever. First Experience