Re: [Emc-users] cloning hard drive

2024-05-11 Thread gene heskett
On 5/10/24 19:44, Chris Albertson wrote: On May 10, 2024, at 9:49 AM, gene heskett wrote: On 5/10/24 11:25, Chris Albertson wrote: Rsync will copy data at the file system level.I think the OP wants to copy the partition tables and boot sector.But rsync can copy across a network

Re: [Emc-users] cloning hard drive

2024-05-11 Thread gene heskett
On 5/10/24 14:27, Linden wrote: I have used clonezilla and DD for both back up and restore. Some where I have an interactive bash scripted I wrote for using DD. In the past when going from a small drive to a new larger drive the most reliable way I found was to use DD to clone and move the

Re: [Emc-users] cloning hard drive

2024-05-10 Thread Chris Albertson
> On May 10, 2024, at 9:49 AM, gene heskett wrote: > > On 5/10/24 11:25, Chris Albertson wrote: >> Rsync will copy data at the file system level.I think the OP wants to >> copy the partition tables and boot sector.But rsync can copy across a >> network and is a decent way to make a

Re: [Emc-users] cloning hard drive

2024-05-10 Thread Linden
I have used clonezilla and DD for both back up and restore. Some where I have an interactive bash scripted I wrote for using DD. In the past when going from a small drive to a new larger drive the most reliable way I found was to use DD to clone and move the data and the use gparted to expand

Re: [Emc-users] cloning hard drive

2024-05-10 Thread gene heskett
On 5/10/24 11:25, Chris Albertson wrote: Rsync will copy data at the file system level.I think the OP wants to copy the partition tables and boot sector.But rsync can copy across a network and is a decent way to make a backup of your data. Clonzilla loks like it can work. I’ve always

Re: [Emc-users] cloning hard drive

2024-05-10 Thread Chris Albertson
Rsync will copy data at the file system level.I think the OP wants to copy the partition tables and boot sector.But rsync can copy across a network and is a decent way to make a backup of your data. Clonzilla loks like it can work. I’ve always used “dd” because it is a two letter

Re: [Emc-users] cloning hard drive

2024-05-10 Thread Chris Albertson
I assume the laptop runs Linux.If so then you’d use “dd” to clone the disk drive. “dd” is installed on every Linux system I’ve ever seem. So you already have it. This assumes you are copying it to an identical drive. The trouble is that you can not have booted from the drive you are

Re: [Emc-users] cloning hard drive

2024-05-10 Thread Todd Zuercher via Emc-users
Message- From: Sam Sokolik Sent: Friday, May 10, 2024 6:50 AM To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Subject: Re: [Emc-users] cloning hard drive [EXTERNAL EMAIL] Be sure links are safe. 2nd clonezilla.. use it all the time at work. On Fri, May 10, 2024, 5:42 AM Ed wrote: > On 5/10/24 4:10

Re: [Emc-users] cloning hard drive

2024-05-10 Thread gene heskett
On 5/10/24 06:11, andrew beck wrote: hey everyone a bit off topic here i have my main laptop that i want to clone the hard drive on it for a identical laptop for a backup this is used for running the linuxcnc machines and programming drawing etc anyway just want to know what software people

Re: [Emc-users] cloning hard drive

2024-05-10 Thread Sam Sokolik
2nd clonezilla.. use it all the time at work. On Fri, May 10, 2024, 5:42 AM Ed wrote: > On 5/10/24 4:10 AM, andrew beck wrote: > > hey everyone > > > > a bit off topic here > > > > i have my main laptop that i want to clone the hard drive on it for a > > identical laptop for a backup > > > >

Re: [Emc-users] cloning hard drive

2024-05-10 Thread Ed
On 5/10/24 4:10 AM, andrew beck wrote: hey everyone a bit off topic here i have my main laptop that i want to clone the hard drive on it for a identical laptop for a backup this is used for running the linuxcnc machines and programming drawing etc anyway just want to know what software

[Emc-users] cloning hard drive

2024-05-10 Thread andrew beck
hey everyone a bit off topic here i have my main laptop that i want to clone the hard drive on it for a identical laptop for a backup this is used for running the linuxcnc machines and programming drawing etc anyway just want to know what software people prefer for disk cloning i have never

Re: [Emc-users] cloning hard drive to new SSD

2020-05-02 Thread Nicklas Karlsson
> Hi guys just getting back with a report of what I did to try clone my hard > drive. > > I tried to clone it in linuxcnc first as described and failed. then tried > clone zilla, then tried a few other programs to decrease the size. Do not think cloning is a good idea since it is an exact

Re: [Emc-users] cloning hard drive to new SSD

2020-05-01 Thread andrew beck
haha. yes that install was only 3 months old anyway. running the latest 2.8 iso. I am using a custom mint iso loaded with qt5 and linuxcnc 2.8 it is awesome. and I can just boot anytime from my usb rather than upgrading everytime from 2.7 regards Andrew On Sat, May 2, 2020 at 11:29 AM Jon

Re: [Emc-users] cloning hard drive to new SSD

2020-05-01 Thread Jon Elson
On 05/01/2020 05:17 PM, andrew beck wrote: at that point I just re wiped the SSD with my linuxcnc boot stick and gave up. took me 30 mins to download everything I was missing and I was away making parts later that afternoon. Well, that way you get a new version with some bug fixes and new

Re: [Emc-users] cloning hard drive to new SSD

2020-05-01 Thread andrew beck
Hi guys just getting back with a report of what I did to try clone my hard drive. I tried to clone it in linuxcnc first as described and failed. then tried clone zilla, then tried a few other programs to decrease the size. using G parted I reduced the size of the disc down to 40 gb and then

Re: [Emc-users] cloning hard drive to new SSD

2020-04-24 Thread Chris Albertson
All the advice to use "dd" is OK. But it will spend hours copying many gigabytes of blank areas of the disk.I bet there is only a few megabytes of data you really need. The simple way is to make a bootable disk or SD card (or better an SSD) from scratch. Just the same way everyone

Re: [Emc-users] cloning hard drive to new SSD

2020-04-23 Thread Jon Elson
On 04/23/2020 05:43 PM, andrew beck wrote: hey jon my old hard drive is 1000 gb the new SSD is 120 gb So I definitely need to shrink the iso. But the actual data on the old hard drive is probably only about 3 gb OK, step one is use fdisk to see the partition arrangement on the old drive.

Re: [Emc-users] cloning hard drive to new SSD

2020-04-23 Thread andrew beck
hey jon my old hard drive is 1000 gb the new SSD is 120 gb So I definitely need to shrink the iso. But the actual data on the old hard drive is probably only about 3 gb regards Andrew On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 3:34 PM Jon Elson wrote: > On 04/22/2020 09:22 PM, andrew beck wrote: > > Hey

Re: [Emc-users] cloning hard drive to new SSD

2020-04-23 Thread Sam Sokolik
I have used clonezilla for years and years. I can't remember a situation that it didn't 'just work' (cloning windows, mac, linux and whatever else..) sam On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 3:06 PM Dave Cole wrote: > Look up R-Drive image. It works with Windows and will clone just about > anything.

Re: [Emc-users] cloning hard drive to new SSD

2020-04-23 Thread Dave Cole
Look up R-Drive image.   It works with Windows and will clone just about anything.  Linux drives are no big deal. Its not free, but its not expensive either. I have two USB to IDE/Sata adapters that I used to clone drives.  Or you can use one adapter and save the image from one drive and

Re: [Emc-users] cloning hard drive to new SSD

2020-04-23 Thread R C
On 04/23/2020 12:10 PM, Rafael Skodlar wrote: Bravo. I'm horrified reading recommendations to use dd for cloning files on storage devices. dd copies fragmented files as is so you are messing new drive for performance issues from the get go. btw:  you can "practice" dd with a usb stick

Re: [Emc-users] cloning hard drive to new SSD

2020-04-23 Thread R C
On 4/23/20 11:10 AM, Rafael Skodlar wrote: On 2020-04-23 07:56, R C wrote: well, you can do it with dd, but the details are tricky at times. You are not just "cloning" a disk, like you used to copy a disk. I drive has multiple things, like an MBR, and partitions and such. Most of the time

Re: [Emc-users] cloning hard drive to new SSD

2020-04-23 Thread R C
correct  BUT  if you don't do that you won't have an exact copy,  and if you have "so so" sectors, you might not be able to fix that  on a "regular" copied drive.  Also, some of these copy utilities do not know why something is in a different order. (older copy protection worked like that, 

Re: [Emc-users] cloning hard drive to new SSD

2020-04-23 Thread Jon Elson
On 04/23/2020 12:10 PM, Rafael Skodlar wrote: Bravo. I'm horrified reading recommendations to use dd for cloning files on storage devices. dd copies fragmented files as is so you are messing new drive for performance issues from the get go. Yes, this is true. But, if you copy the

Re: [Emc-users] cloning hard drive to new SSD

2020-04-23 Thread Rafael Skodlar
On 2020-04-23 07:56, R C wrote: well, you can do it with dd, but the details are tricky at times. You are not just "cloning" a disk, like you used to copy a disk. I drive has multiple things, like an MBR, and partitions and such. Most of the time to just clone a disk, copy it if you will,

Re: [Emc-users] cloning hard drive to new SSD

2020-04-23 Thread R C
well, you can do it with dd, but the details are tricky at times. You are not just "cloning" a disk, like you used to copy a disk. I drive has multiple things, like an MBR, and partitions and such. Most of the time to just clone a disk, copy it if you will, works, but what one should really

Re: [Emc-users] cloning hard drive to new SSD

2020-04-23 Thread Marshland Engineering
I use Macrium Reflect on Windows. It backups everything, windows, Linux, boot partitions etc and can even restore to a smaller drive. Been using it for years and works very well. Worth having a PC in the background just for this. Cheers Wallace ___

Re: [Emc-users] cloning hard drive to new SSD

2020-04-23 Thread Gregg Eshelman via Emc-users
Or download the System Rescue CD, boot it, launch the GUI (how to do that is on the screen, just type startx then hit enter) and use the GUI version of GPartEd (GNU Partition Editor). The drive you clone to still has to be exactly the same size or larger because it can't simultaneously clone

Re: [Emc-users] cloning hard drive to new SSD

2020-04-23 Thread Gregg Eshelman via Emc-users
For Linux the tool to use is dd in a terminal window. Google how to clone disk with linux dd On Windows there's the free AOMEI Partition Assistant, or their free Backupper. I know Partition Assistant can copy non-Windows partitions, and under the advanced settings it has a box to check for

Re: [Emc-users] cloning hard drive to new SSD

2020-04-23 Thread Glenn Edwards
I posed this same request to the group a couple weeks back. I was going to wait until I was successful with two clones before I reported my results, but here is what I tried and what worked. All my problems with cloning arose from making a bootable HD. dd failed to make a bootable drive for me

Re: [Emc-users] cloning hard drive to new SSD

2020-04-22 Thread nkp
I use Clonezilla for this. Great-great program! https://clonezilla.org 23.04.2020 06:37, R C пишет: if the new disk is smaller, unlikely nowadays, you might be able to shrink it image you created (if you did), effectively it just truncates the file/iso and leave the empty space out. On

Re: [Emc-users] cloning hard drive to new SSD

2020-04-22 Thread R C
if the new disk is smaller, unlikely nowadays, you might be able to shrink it  image you created (if you did), effectively it just truncates the file/iso and leave the empty space out. On 4/22/20 9:31 PM, Jon Elson wrote: On 04/22/2020 09:22 PM, andrew beck wrote: Hey guys. Just a quick

Re: [Emc-users] cloning hard drive to new SSD

2020-04-22 Thread R C
do you have access to a unix box?  because there it's really easy to do. Take the drive you want to "copy", connect it to a inix box and make sure it is not mounted. Look up whatthe device isin, /dev.   with most drive it should be something like /dev/sdb  or sdc etc.  you can see it when

Re: [Emc-users] cloning hard drive to new SSD

2020-04-22 Thread Rafael Skodlar
Andrew, On 2020-04-22 19:22, andrew beck wrote: Hey guys. Just a quick question here I recently heard some funny clanking noises in my old 2nd hand hard drive on my VMC and thought I better change it out and get a SSD in there. I have a bunch of stuff loaded onto the hardrive for probe basic

Re: [Emc-users] cloning hard drive to new SSD

2020-04-22 Thread Jon Elson
On 04/22/2020 09:22 PM, andrew beck wrote: Hey guys. Just a quick question here I recently heard some funny clanking noises in my old 2nd hand hard drive on my VMC and thought I better change it out and get a SSD in there. I have a bunch of stuff loaded onto the hardrive for probe basic gui

[Emc-users] cloning hard drive to new SSD

2020-04-22 Thread andrew beck
Hey guys. Just a quick question here I recently heard some funny clanking noises in my old 2nd hand hard drive on my VMC and thought I better change it out and get a SSD in there. I have a bunch of stuff loaded onto the hardrive for probe basic gui and other stuff and would like to clone the