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Point was to not let the current arrangement of equipment drive the selection of what new mill you can buy because for not a lot of money you can have the current arrangement of equipment changed. I'd guess the labor cost in rural Indiana is less than here in So Cal. If you are looking to

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On 2/7/2021 6:59 PM, Chris Albertson wrote: On Sun, Feb 7, 2021 at 9:41 AM Gene Heskett wrote: Space for it means pulling the crooked g0704 out before bringing it in. And more than likely hurting myself getting it backed into the space. But I think I'm a little smarter about such than I

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On Monday 08 February 2021 17:36:35 Jon Elson wrote: > On 02/08/2021 12:11 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > If you've room for it Jon I expect it would be a pretty good deal at > > that price. But check the ceiling height it needs too, that looks to > > be in excess of the usual 96" tall. I'd probably

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On Mon, 8 Feb 2021 at 22:38, Jon Elson wrote: > Oh YEAH! That's why I can't have a Bridgeport BOSS machine, > the top of the head would be WAY up inside the kitchen > cabinets! So? It might even make shifting the belt easier. -- atp "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment

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On 02/08/2021 12:11 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: If you've room for it Jon I expect it would be a pretty good deal at that price. But check the ceiling height it needs too, that looks to be in excess of the usual 96" tall. I'd probably be 5 or 6"" or so thru the ceiling in my garage. With 3

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On Monday 08 February 2021 10:44:56 Jon Elson wrote: > On 02/08/2021 08:20 AM, Todd Zuercher wrote: > > Gene, > > > > If you aren't too far away to drive to Cleveland, these guys might > > be a good place to ckeck out. HGR has all manor of junk to look at. > > Here is just one of many options. >

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> From: Jon Elson [mailto:el...@pico-systems.com] > On 02/08/2021 08:20 AM, Todd Zuercher wrote: > > Gene, > > > > If you aren't too far away to drive to Cleveland, these guys might be a > > good place to ckeck out. HGR has all manor of junk to look at. > Here is just one of many options. > >

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) Subject: Re: [Emc-users] machine opinion please [EXTERNAL EMAIL] Be sure links are safe. On 02/08/2021 08:20 AM, Todd Zuercher wrote: > Gene, > > If you aren't too far away to drive to Cleveland, these guys might be a good > place to ckeck out. HGR has all manor of junk to look at. Here

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On 02/08/2021 08:20 AM, Todd Zuercher wrote: Gene, If you aren't too far away to drive to Cleveland, these guys might be a good place to ckeck out. HGR has all manor of junk to look at. Here is just one of many options.

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. Graham Dunn Inc. 630 Henry Street  Dalton, Ohio 44618 Phone:  (330)828-2105ext. 2031 -Original Message- From: Gene Heskett Sent: Monday, February 08, 2021 6:14 AM To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] machine opinion please [EXTERNAL EMAIL] Be sure links are safe

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On Monday 08 February 2021 04:40:49 andy pugh wrote: > On Mon, 8 Feb 2021 at 09:09, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > I doubt it. In fact the whole mill might be surprisingly tiny. > > A bit more research indicates that the "VH-2" in the auction > description is actually the designation of the vertical

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On Mon, 8 Feb 2021 at 10:15, Gregg Eshelman via Emc-users wrote: > > A closer look at the pics and I see it's a TM mill with the VH-2 vertical > head. Ah, yes, it doesn't seem to have the swinging table (though the difference is rather subtle and hard to spot in photos, so it might just have

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A closer look at the pics and I see it's a TM mill with the VH-2 vertical head. Here's a spec sheet https://ozarktoolmanuals.com/wp-content/uploads/pdfcatalogs/Hardinge_Horizontal_Mill_Bulletin.pdf On Monday, February 8, 2021, 2:09:54 AM MST, Gene Heskett wrote: On Monday 08

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On Mon, 8 Feb 2021 at 09:09, Gene Heskett wrote: > > I doubt it. In fact the whole mill might be surprisingly tiny. A bit more research indicates that the "VH-2" in the auction description is actually the designation of the vertical head (Vertical Head 2?) The mill itself is probably a Hardinge

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On Monday 08 February 2021 03:42:11 Gregg Eshelman via Emc-users wrote: > Weird, that VH-2 looks exactly like a UM, but there are 5C and R8 > collets in the tray. The horizontal spindle is 5C and the vertical > head on a UM (swivel table) or TM (non-swivel table) uses 4C. I *think* this table

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Weird, that VH-2 looks exactly like a UM, but there are 5C and R8 collets in the tray. The horizontal spindle is 5C and the vertical head on a UM (swivel table) or TM (non-swivel table) uses 4C. On Sunday, February 7, 2021, 7:22:09 AM MST, andy pugh wrote: On Sun, 7 Feb 2021 at

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Suggest it to Tormach to add to their flat nosed 3/4" R8 TTS collet. Dunno how hard the top flange surface is on their TTS holders and epoxy on converter rings. One neat thing about the TTS holders is they work in the vertical head for a Hardinge UM/TM horizontal mill with a stock 3/4" 4C

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On Sunday 07 February 2021 18:59:35 Chris Albertson wrote: > On Sun, Feb 7, 2021 at 9:41 AM Gene Heskett wrote: > > Space for > > it means pulling the crooked g0704 out before bringing it in. And > > more than likely hurting myself getting it backed into the space. > > But I think I'm a

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On Sunday 07 February 2021 15:57:46 John Dammeyer wrote: > > From: andy pugh [mailto:bodge...@gmail.com] > > > > On Sun, 7 Feb 2021 at 20:10, wrote: > > > Perhaps using a collet results in more variability of tool lengths > > > compared to an R8 alone. However, I doubt that either way is > > >

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On Sun, Feb 7, 2021 at 9:41 AM Gene Heskett wrote: > > Space for > it means pulling the crooked g0704 out before bringing it in. And more > than likely hurting myself getting it backed into the space. But I think > I'm a little smarter about such than I was 5 or 6 years ago putting the > go704

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On Sunday 07 February 2021 15:08:59 ken.stra...@gmail.com wrote: > -Original Message- > From: Gene Heskett > Sent: February 7, 2021 2:46 PM > To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] machine opinion please > > On Sunday 07 February 2021 13:

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> From: andy pugh [mailto:bodge...@gmail.com] > On Sun, 7 Feb 2021 at 20:10, wrote: > > > Perhaps using a collet results in more variability of tool lengths compared > > to an R8 alone. However, I doubt that either way is reproducible to less > > than several thou. > > The whole class of

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" A solid R8 should be just as good " Yes, my assumption was that a collet or R8 would produce similar results with a collet being slightly worse. -Original Message- From: andy pugh Sent: February 7, 2021 3:21 PM To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Subject: Re: [Emc-user

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On Sun, 7 Feb 2021 at 20:10, wrote: > Perhaps using a collet results in more variability of tool lengths compared > to an R8 alone. However, I doubt that either way is reproducible to less > than several thou. The whole class of 7/24 tapers rely on pulling back to the same place every time. A

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-Original Message- From: Gene Heskett Sent: February 7, 2021 2:46 PM To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] machine opinion please On Sunday 07 February 2021 13:09:24 Jon Elson wrote: > On 02/07/2021 06:38 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > 1. Any tool griping

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On Sunday 07 February 2021 13:09:24 Jon Elson wrote: > On 02/07/2021 06:38 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > 1. Any tool griping mechanism the has to squeeze a collet > > by drawing it lengthwise in a tapered seat has to > > compromise your tlo offsets in the tool table > > I have fitted myself out

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] machine opinion please On Sunday 07 February 2021 10:32:56 ken.stra...@gmail.com wrote: > Please let me summarize your needs/desires for a new machine: > You have limited room > Want something larger and more rigid than your current machine > Must run on single phase 220 power >

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On 02/07/2021 06:38 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: 1. Any tool griping mechanism the has to squeeze a collet by drawing it lengthwise in a tapered seat has to compromise your tlo offsets in the tool table I have fitted myself out with a set of R8 tool holders, and rarely use a collet anymore. About

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On Sunday 07 February 2021 10:32:56 ken.stra...@gmail.com wrote: > Please let me summarize your needs/desires for a new machine: > You have limited room > Want something larger and more rigid than your current machine > Must run on single phase 220 power > Ball screws > R8 or BT30

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On Sunday 07 February 2021 09:19:04 andy pugh wrote: > On Sun, 7 Feb 2021 at 13:21, Gene Heskett wrote: > > Neat, but does it have ball screws and room on the table for my > > converted BS-1? > > I doubt it. In fact the whole mill might be surprisingly tiny. I have > no idea, it was just a

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t you have been considering but instant gratification has value! Disclaimer: I have no financial interest but have been a happy user for many years. -Original Message- From: Gene Heskett Sent: February 7, 2021 8:20 AM To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] machi

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On Sun, 7 Feb 2021 at 13:21, Gene Heskett wrote: > Neat, but does it have ball screws and room on the table for my converted > BS-1? I doubt it. In fact the whole mill might be surprisingly tiny. I have no idea, it was just a random eBay search to see what you kind of machine you could get for

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On Saturday 06 February 2021 19:03:27 andy pugh wrote: > On Sat, 6 Feb 2021 at 22:52, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > The column does look to be of adequate size, unlike most. > > I still think you would possibly be better-served by a used industrial >

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On Sun, 7 Feb 2021 at 03:29, Jon Elson wrote: > want an R8 taper, vastly more tooling is available for it. > Or, an NMTB30 taper, but that will > make the holders more expensive. Not that much more expensive, and they are better in all respects. R8 only looks good compared to MT4. -- atp "A

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On 2021-02-07 03:27, Jon Elson wrote: For a CNC retrofit, you really want ballscrews, why not find a machine that comes with them from the factory? Having got into trouble some time ago when converting from ACME to ballscrews, I endorse Jon's view. The problem with ballscres is that you may

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On 02/06/2021 04:59 PM, Mark Johnsen wrote: Hi Gene, I always had an eye on the Rongfu RF-45. Here's one like it for a tad more than the one you have your eye on and might not include shipping:

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On 02/06/2021 04:50 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: Greetings all; My patience with the GO704 is about used up. I've the sheckles now to replace it with something that might be better, and this one looks as if it might scratch the itch. I'd like to get a bridgeport style but simply do not have the room

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On Saturday 06 February 2021 21:36:35 Brent Loschen wrote: > How about something like this > rtical-mill-r2e4-in-lebanon-nj>Gene?  My LCNC conversion to one of > these was a piece of cake, even for this LCNC novice!  A little

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How about something like this Gene?  My LCNC conversion to one of these was a piece of cake, even for this LCNC novice!  A little more spend up front than the one you found, but probably long

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On Saturday 06 February 2021 19:03:27 andy pugh wrote: > On Sat, 6 Feb 2021 at 22:52, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > The column does look to be of adequate size, unlike most. > > I still think you would possibly be better-served by a used industrial >

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On Sat, 6 Feb 2021 at 22:52, Gene Heskett wrote: > The column does look to be of adequate size, unlike most. I still think you would possibly be better-served by a used industrial machine. https://www.ebay.com/itm/264882512556 Is cute, and has a

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ler opens a channel. Thanks John. > > -Original Message- > > From: Gene Heskett [mailto:ghesk...@shentel.net] > > Sent: February-06-21 2:50 PM > > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) > > Subject: [Emc-users] machine opinion please > > > > Greetin

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On Saturday 06 February 2021 17:59:07 Mark Johnsen wrote: > Hi Gene, > > I always had an eye on the Rongfu RF-45. Here's one like it for a tad > more than the one you have your eye on and might not include shipping: > https://www.ebay.com/itm/Acra-RF-45-Gear-Head-Mill-Drill-VERTICAL-MILL

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Forget it. Has MT4 taper. Go R8 minimum. John > -Original Message- > From: Gene Heskett [mailto:ghesk...@shentel.net] > Sent: February-06-21 2:50 PM > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) > Subject: [Emc-users] machine opinion please > > Greetings all; > >

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Looks to be about the same price (or even more) as a used Bridgeport. Does this REALLY use less floor space than a Bridgeport? How much less, looks to be about 6".One advantage of the Bridgeport mill is there is loads of collective experience about how to do a first-class CNC conversion.

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Hi Gene, I always had an eye on the Rongfu RF-45. Here's one like it for a tad more than the one you have your eye on and might not include shipping:

[Emc-users] machine opinion please

Greetings all; My patience with the GO704 is about used up. I've the sheckles now to replace it with something that might be better, and this one looks as if it might scratch the itch. I'd like to get a bridgeport style but simply do not have the room for it in the garage.