Re: [Emc-users] Min spindle encoder resolution for mill rigid tapping?

2015-08-11 Thread David Bagby
Hi folks, Thanks for the inputs. I now understand better what to be thinking about and can continue the planning the conversion. Dave -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@li

Re: [Emc-users] Min spindle encoder resolution for mill rigid tapping?

2015-08-11 Thread Jon Elson
On 08/11/2015 01:48 AM, Dave Caroline wrote: > It also depends on minimum tap size, a tiny tap will be less able to > stand any vertical strain due to encoder resolution in thou per > encoder edge and there has to be an amount due to the turn around of > up to something (a count) plus any delay in

Re: [Emc-users] Min spindle encoder resolution for mill rigid tapping?

2015-08-11 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 11 August 2015 04:41:16 Dave Caroline wrote: > There is no such thing as "instantly" there is a delay until an edge > is detected, a delay before the software has looked at the current > position and direction and a delay before Z starts to follow the > reversal, the sum of delays is a

Re: [Emc-users] Min spindle encoder resolution for mill rigid tapping?

2015-08-11 Thread Dave Caroline
There is no such thing as "instantly" there is a delay until an edge is detected, a delay before the software has looked at the current position and direction and a delay before Z starts to follow the reversal, the sum of delays is a strain on the tap, making all numbers less will reduce the strain

Re: [Emc-users] Min spindle encoder resolution for mill rigid tapping?

2015-08-11 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 11 August 2015 02:48:53 Dave Caroline wrote: > It also depends on minimum tap size, a tiny tap will be less able to > stand any vertical strain due to encoder resolution in thou per > encoder edge and there has to be an amount due to the turn around of > up to something (a count) plus a

Re: [Emc-users] Min spindle encoder resolution for mill rigid tapping?

2015-08-10 Thread Dave Caroline
It also depends on minimum tap size, a tiny tap will be less able to stand any vertical strain due to encoder resolution in thou per encoder edge and there has to be an amount due to the turn around of up to something (a count) plus any delay in the software and servo driver lags (ferror) Rather m

Re: [Emc-users] Min spindle encoder resolution for mill rigid tapping?

2015-08-10 Thread Jon Elson
On 08/10/2015 06:38 PM, David Bagby wrote: > Hi, > I'm planning a mill conversion to LCNC and I'd like it to be able to do > rigid tapping. > > I figure that this will require an encoder or equivalent) on the > spindle. I won't be able to to easily attach a common encoder disc to > the spindle, so

Re: [Emc-users] Min spindle encoder resolution for mill rigid tapping?

2015-08-10 Thread andy pugh
On 11 August 2015 at 01:32, Gene Heskett wrote: > I have not tried that low, but I'd think, based on some that claim to > have made it work with 1 PPR, that a suitably stiff controller that will > not allow more than a few percent of speed variation with the load > coming on when the tap starts to

Re: [Emc-users] Min spindle encoder resolution for mill rigid tapping?

2015-08-10 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Tue, 11 Aug 2015, andy pugh wrote: > Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2015 01:07:31 +0100 > From: andy pugh > Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > > To: "d...@calypsoventures.com" , > "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > Subject: Re:

Re: [Emc-users] Min spindle encoder resolution for mill rigid tapping?

2015-08-10 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 10 August 2015 19:38:28 David Bagby wrote: > Hi, > I'm planning a mill conversion to LCNC and I'd like it to be able to > do rigid tapping. > Description of mill, particularly its spindle & drive? > I figure that this will require an encoder or equivalent) on the > spindle. I won't be a

Re: [Emc-users] Min spindle encoder resolution for mill rigid tapping?

2015-08-10 Thread andy pugh
On 11 August 2015 at 00:38, David Bagby wrote: > I've looked but not found a spec for the required encoder resolution. I guess it will depend on machine rigidity, i.e. how far can you turn a tap with no head movement before it damages the thread or breaks the tap. -- atp If you can't fix it, yo