[Emc-users] MSL Landing: Success!

2012-08-06 Thread roger
Just wanted to congratulate my American fellows for a safe landing on Mars. Yes, Mars Science Laboratory aka Curiosity are there with all it's six wheels firmly and neatly placed in the Martian sand! A great day for all of us Space-enthusiasts! Pics from the rover here:

[Emc-users] 5i23 firmware with 24 stepgens

2012-08-06 Thread Viesturs Lācis
Hello! Can anyone advice me, if is there already available firmware for 5i23 card with 24 stepgens on 2 50-pin connectors? -- Viesturs If you can't fix it, you don't own it. http://www.ifixit.com/Manifesto -- Live

Re: [Emc-users] OT - Ford diesels

2012-08-06 Thread andy pugh
On 6 August 2012 04:37, Przemek Klosowski przemek.klosow...@gmail.com wrote: How does it work? Would it measure the burn cycle pressure and adjust the injected fuel volume for appropriate pressure peak? Yes, apart from the problem with fuel lubricity the main issue is that the injection is

Re: [Emc-users] OT - Ford diesels

2012-08-06 Thread andy pugh
On 6 August 2012 03:46, ceen...@in-front.com wrote: My thought was to get a fairly low volume diesel direct injector (i.e. 1L to 2L 4-cyl diesel car) and grind away the lower section of the nozzle which has the 6 or 8 pinholes to allow solder paste to exit a bit more freely. You can't use

Re: [Emc-users] geographic map

2012-08-06 Thread andy pugh
On 6 August 2012 02:04, jeremy youngs jcyoung...@gmail.com wrote: my bad once again ive asked for help without giving all info, the embedded client is what i am using. my humble apologies That is a bit flaky. You could try updating your Java version, but installing a proper IRC client is likely

Re: [Emc-users] OT - Ford diesels

2012-08-06 Thread Mark Wendt
On Sun, Aug 5, 2012 at 8:27 PM, Steve Blackmore st...@pilotltd.net wrote: Yea - at twice the CO2 emissions of my 1996 2.8 turbo!! Steve Blackmore Then it's earth and plant friendly. Plants need CO2 to live. Mark --

Re: [Emc-users] STOP RIGHT NOW...

2012-08-06 Thread Ron Ginger
On 8/5/2012 10:19 PM, emc-users-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net wrote: 13 posts without a response from ron in my nearly 1yr involvement here i dont think ive had a question that wasnt responded to in 5 post or less. I think you fellas here care about more than a dollar and the prompt service i

Re: [Emc-users] OT - Ford diesels

2012-08-06 Thread Stuart Stevenson
Since this is already an OT thread Yes Mark plants need CO2 but politicians need money therefore we must learn to pay them for natural occurring substances and acts. On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 4:31 AM, Mark Wendt wendt.m...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Aug 5, 2012 at 8:27 PM, Steve Blackmore

Re: [Emc-users] OT - Ford diesels

2012-08-06 Thread Mark Wendt
;-) Considering the amount of C02 expelled by all the hot air that issues forth from DC (which is where I'm currently sitting at my work desk), one would think the politician's C02 generation should also be taxed. Mark On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 7:49 AM, Stuart Stevenson stus...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [Emc-users] STOP RIGHT NOW...

2012-08-06 Thread Stuart Stevenson
Brian, I offer another opinion here. This thread would have died a long time ago without your input. The driving force for many of the responses is not the need to prove 'Mines bigger than yours'. Everyone needs a little 'Comic relief' and jumped on this with a smile to see where it would go. I

Re: [Emc-users] STOP RIGHT NOW...

2012-08-06 Thread Stuart Stevenson
I don't know why I answered to Brian - It should have been Ron. On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 7:08 AM, Stuart Stevenson stus...@gmail.com wrote: Brian, I offer another opinion here. This thread would have died a long time ago without your input. The driving force for many of the responses is not

Re: [Emc-users] OT - Ford diesels

2012-08-06 Thread Stuart Stevenson
Certainly, they have exempted themselves from any consequences. On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 6:55 AM, Mark Wendt wendt.m...@gmail.com wrote: ;-) Considering the amount of C02 expelled by all the hot air that issues forth from DC (which is where I'm currently sitting at my work desk), one would

Re: [Emc-users] OT - Ford diesels

2012-08-06 Thread Mark Wendt
Most definitely. Mark On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 8:09 AM, Stuart Stevenson stus...@gmail.com wrote: Certainly, they have exempted themselves from any consequences. On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 6:55 AM, Mark Wendt wendt.m...@gmail.com wrote: ;-) Considering the amount of C02 expelled by all the hot

Re: [Emc-users] CO2 good?

2012-08-06 Thread Roger Holmquist
Well Mark, I don't think U should enter the Global Warming debate because the following truth has been thoroughly tested: 1) Too little water kills a man. 2) Too much water kills a man. I think it's still valid. / Roger Then it's earth and plant

Re: [Emc-users] CO2 good?

2012-08-06 Thread Mark Wendt
And that proves global warming is caused by man because... Mark On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 8:31 AM, Roger Holmquist ro...@abcnc.se wrote: Well Mark, I don't think U should enter the Global Warming debate because the following truth has been thoroughly tested: 1) Too little water kills a man.

Re: [Emc-users] CO2 good?

2012-08-06 Thread John Kasunich
On Mon, Aug 6, 2012, at 08:31 AM, Roger Holmquist wrote: Well Mark, I don't think U should enter the Global Warming debate because the following truth has been thoroughly tested: 1) Too little water kills a man. 2) Too much water kills a man. I don't think we should enter the

Re: [Emc-users] CO2 good?

2012-08-06 Thread Mark Wendt
On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 8:45 AM, John Kasunich jmkasun...@fastmail.fm wrote: I don't think we should enter the Global Warming debate for three reasons: 1) It is off-topic. 2) It is a hot-button issue and will result in LOTS of off-topic messages, not just one or two. 3) Some of us use the

Re: [Emc-users] STOP RIGHT NOW...

2012-08-06 Thread Dave
The recent posts have all been statements of opinion, to which there is no useful response. We all are welcome to our own opinions. Uh... I don't think so.. restating what I have said: Fact - Mach3 V4 has been under development for 4 years. Fact - Mach3 V4 has missed many release dates.

Re: [Emc-users] OT - Ford diesels

2012-08-06 Thread Dave
I currently have a Ford Ranger pickup truck that has a bifuel CNG (Compressed Natural Gas)/unleaded gas conversion and I am going to try and convert that to Propane. I don't have a good source for CNG and right now Propane is going for just over $1.00 per gallon when purchased in 500 gallons

Re: [Emc-users] MSL Landing: Success!

2012-08-06 Thread charles green
i heard that they were making a movie about mars called 'total recall'. --- On Sun, 8/5/12, ro...@abcnc.se ro...@abcnc.se wrote: From: ro...@abcnc.se ro...@abcnc.se Subject: [Emc-users] MSL Landing: Success! To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Date: Sunday, August 5, 2012, 11:05 PM Just

[Emc-users] Co2 equals OT - Agreed!

2012-08-06 Thread Roger Holmquist
;-) Roger -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include

Re: [Emc-users] MSL Landing: Success!

2012-08-06 Thread Dave
While I am very glad it worked, I thought the chances for failure were great as that landing sequence was very complicated with the crane mechanism. I think I would have looked (desperately) for a different solution. Dave On 8/6/2012 9:27 AM, charles green wrote: i heard that they were

Re: [Emc-users] OT - Ford diesels

2012-08-06 Thread Mark Cason
On 08/06/2012 04:06 AM, andy pugh wrote: On 6 August 2012 03:46, ceen...@in-front.com wrote: My thought was to get a fairly low volume diesel direct injector (i.e. 1L to 2L 4-cyl diesel car) and grind away the lower section of the nozzle which has the 6 or 8 pinholes to allow solder paste

Re: [Emc-users] CO2 good?

2012-08-06 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 06 August 2012 11:01:08 John Kasunich did opine: On Mon, Aug 6, 2012, at 08:31 AM, Roger Holmquist wrote: Well Mark, I don't think U should enter the Global Warming debate because the following truth has been thoroughly tested: 1) Too little water kills a man. 2)

Re: [Emc-users] OT - Ford diesels

2012-08-06 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 06 August 2012 11:04:47 Dave did opine: I currently have a Ford Ranger pickup truck that has a bifuel CNG (Compressed Natural Gas)/unleaded gas conversion and I am going to try and convert that to Propane. I don't have a good source for CNG and right now Propane is going for just

Re: [Emc-users] MSL Landing: Success!

2012-08-06 Thread Ed Nisley
On Mon, 2012-08-06 at 10:10 -0400, Dave wrote: I think I would have looked (desperately) for a different solution. One of the engineers (in the movie they put out before the event) observed that the whole series of maneuvers was crazy, but it was the *least* crazy way to accomplish the

Re: [Emc-users] 5i23 firmware with 24 stepgens

2012-08-06 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Mon, 6 Aug 2012, Viesturs L?cis wrote: Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2012 10:32:21 +0300 From: [UTF-8] Viesturs L?cis viesturs.la...@gmail.com Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject:

Re: [Emc-users] CO2 good?

2012-08-06 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Mon, 6 Aug 2012, John Kasunich wrote: Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2012 08:45:27 -0400 From: John Kasunich jmkasun...@fastmail.fm Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re:

Re: [Emc-users] OT - Ford diesels

2012-08-06 Thread Mark Wendt
On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 11:13 AM, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: One thing that stands out in this propane discussion is that propane is assumed to be for heating and cooking purposes. Since a large proportion of the pump price is the various state and federal taxes applied to road use

Re: [Emc-users] OT - Ford diesels

2012-08-06 Thread dave
On Mon, 2012-08-06 at 12:08 -0400, Mark Wendt wrote: On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 11:13 AM, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: One thing that stands out in this propane discussion is that propane is assumed to be for heating and cooking purposes. Since a large proportion of the pump price is

[Emc-users] solder paste

2012-08-06 Thread Jon Elson
ceen...@in-front.com wrote: Mydata has a MY500 solder paste printer but it about $200k USD more than I want to spend in the next year or so on a printer. It looks to be a nice machine. I may see if I can get a replacement head for a MY500 if I can. Printing solder paste with a stencil

[Emc-users] solder paste

2012-08-06 Thread Jon Elson
Mark Cason wrote: a few years ago, i saw a prototyping machine, that used a syringe, to deposit solder directly onto a SMD pad. It basically touched down on a pad, and then deposited a tiny amount of solder, while retracting. then, it rewound the syringe's stepper, a couple steps, to

Re: [Emc-users] solder paste

2012-08-06 Thread ceenbot
Hi Jon, I use a manual stencil printer now and it does work pretty well. The issue is banging out a stencil for all of the proto boards I make. There are about 30 proto designs created per year and since the boards change a bit before they become final, so does the stencil. I don't see the

Re: [Emc-users] MSL Landing: Success!

2012-08-06 Thread Kirk Wallace
Related links I found: http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/msl/index.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mars_Science_Laboratory http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_embedded_computer_systems_on_board_the_Mars_rovers http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VxWorks

Re: [Emc-users] STOP RIGHT NOW...

2012-08-06 Thread Matt Shaver
On Mon, 06 Aug 2012 06:42:56 -0400 Ron Ginger rongin...@roadrunner.com wrote: I am finished with this topic, or further variations of the 'mines bigger' variety. I'm actually very interested to see the Linux version of Mach. As far as I can tell, most of the criticism of Mach relates to it

Re: [Emc-users] 5i23 firmware with 24 stepgens

2012-08-06 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2012/8/6 Peter C. Wallace p...@mesanet.com: On Mon, 6 Aug 2012, Viesturs L?cis wrote: Can anyone advice me, if is there already available firmware for 5i23 card with 24 stepgens on 2 50-pin connectors? Theres a ST48 config for the 5I22 but no ST24 that I know of for the 5I23, though its a

Re: [Emc-users] 5i23 firmware with 24 stepgens

2012-08-06 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Mon, 6 Aug 2012, Viesturs L?cis wrote: Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2012 20:40:10 +0300 From: [UTF-8] Viesturs L?cis viesturs.la...@gmail.com Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject:

Re: [Emc-users] OT - Ford diesels

2012-08-06 Thread Dave
The $1.29 at the nearby station - included the road tax! I took a picture of the station since I didn't think anyone would believe me! Dave On 8/6/2012 11:13 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: On Monday 06 August 2012 11:04:47 Dave did opine: I currently have a Ford Ranger pickup truck that has

Re: [Emc-users] 5i23 firmware with 24 stepgens

2012-08-06 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2012/8/6 Peter C. Wallace p...@mesanet.com: On Mon, 6 Aug 2012, Viesturs L?cis wrote: Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2012 20:40:10 +0300 From: [UTF-8] Viesturs L?cis viesturs.la...@gmail.com Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net To: Enhanced Machine Controller

Re: [Emc-users] STOP RIGHT NOW...

2012-08-06 Thread Dave
On 8/6/2012 1:20 PM, Matt Shaver wrote: On Mon, 06 Aug 2012 06:42:56 -0400 Ron Gingerrongin...@roadrunner.com wrote: I am finished with this topic, or further variations of the 'mines bigger' variety. I'm actually very interested to see the Linux version of Mach. As far as I

Re: [Emc-users] OT - Ford diesels

2012-08-06 Thread dave
On Mon, 2012-08-06 at 15:07 -0400, Dave wrote: The $1.29 at the nearby station - included the road tax! Wow! $2.83 here. My son has found a place that sells off-road for $1.30 and I thought that was good. Dave I took a picture of the station since I didn't think anyone would believe me!

Re: [Emc-users] STOP RIGHT NOW...

2012-08-06 Thread Matt Shaver
On Mon, 06 Aug 2012 15:17:58 -0400 Dave e...@dc9.tzo.com wrote: Are a you assuming that they would use a real time extension on Linux? I don't know. I spoke with Brian Barker at the CNC Workshop and I think he said that the Mac Linux versions would use external pulse generators like the

Re: [Emc-users] OT - Ford diesels

2012-08-06 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 06 August 2012 17:34:31 Mark Wendt did opine: On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 11:13 AM, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: One thing that stands out in this propane discussion is that propane is assumed to be for heating and cooking purposes. Since a large proportion of the pump price

[Emc-users] Support for 6 axis

2012-08-06 Thread Alan
Hi, I have upgraded my machine to support movement on 6 axes. So now I have to upgrade the electronics from 4 to 6 axis. I currently use a 4 axis breakout board and have seen some chinese 6 axis breakout boards advertised on ebay. Does anyone have any experience with these regardining

Re: [Emc-users] OT - Ford diesels

2012-08-06 Thread dave
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuel_taxes_in_the_United_States Enjoy! Dave -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT

Re: [Emc-users] Support for 6 axis

2012-08-06 Thread andy pugh
On 6 August 2012 23:40, Alan alan.batter...@virginmedia.com wrote: have seen some chinese 6 axis breakout boards advertised on ebay. Does anyone have any experience with these regardining reliability usefulness etc? No experience, but I they will use all the output pins, so nothing left for

[Emc-users] motion.motion-enabled?

2012-08-06 Thread Matt Shaver
What does motion.motion-enabled do and where is it used? 1. I grep'ed for it in the source and I see where it's created. Looking at the rest of the source code, it's not obvious where it's used. It shows up in mot_priv.h, motion.c and control.c. 2. It shows up in the hal status as an input, but

Re: [Emc-users] solder paste

2012-08-06 Thread Jon Elson
ceen...@in-front.com wrote: The vision is to spend 1-2 hours programming a printer then let it loose on the boards. A typical board run for me is 200 pcs. I have never done 200 boards in a run, but may have a job that big soon. I will get the boards panelized and do them 20 - 30 at a time.

Re: [Emc-users] STOP RIGHT NOW...

2012-08-06 Thread Jon Elson
Matt Shaver wrote: I'm actually very interested to see the Linux version of Mach. As far as I can tell, most of the criticism of Mach relates to it being hosted on Windows, and the timing related difficulties that can result. Hmmm, much of my criticism lately is the screenset thing. It

Re: [Emc-users] MSL Landing: Success!

2012-08-06 Thread Terry Christophersen
I didnt realize how large the rover was,it is pretty big. Thanks for the links Terry   - Original Message - From: Kirk Wallace kwall...@wallacecompany.com To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Cc: Sent: Monday, August 6, 2012 11:47 AM Subject: Re:

Re: [Emc-users] STOP RIGHT NOW...

2012-08-06 Thread Ron Ginger
Matt Shaver wrote: I spoke with Brian Barker at the CNC Workshop and I think he said that the Mac Linux versions would use external pulse generators like the SmoothStepper _only_, at least initially. Perhaps they'll go back and port their parallel port step generator module later. I have

Re: [Emc-users] MSL Landing: Success!

2012-08-06 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Mon, 2012-08-06 at 18:59 -0700, Terry Christophersen wrote: I didnt realize how large the rover was,it is pretty big. Thanks for the links Terry It is much bigger than Spirit or Opportunity. By the way, Opportunity is still at it at a little over eight years of being on Mars:

Re: [Emc-users] MSL Landing: Success!

2012-08-06 Thread Mark Cason
On 08/06/2012 08:59 PM, Terry Christophersen wrote: I didnt realize how large the rover was,it is pretty big. Thanks for the links Terry I read somewhere that it's about the size of a MINI Cooper, and seeing the pictures, I believe it. -- -Mark Ne M'oubliez ---Family Motto Hope for

Re: [Emc-users] OT - Ford diesels

2012-08-06 Thread Peter Blodow
Gene, please don't forget to take into account that liquefied gases have a density of less than two thirds of gasoline and even less than diesel fuel. Methane (CNG, CH4) is even lighter than butane (C2H6) or propane (LPG, C3H8). In addition, their thermal yield is about 10 to 20% lower per

Re: [Emc-users] solder paste

2012-08-06 Thread cogoman
On 08/06/2012 09:49 PM, Jon Elson wrote: I make my own stencils for these. It is kind of a pain, but I'm CHEAP! How about the cheapest CNC to build, an XY plotter like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WyLPpGdfR7s but with the laser from an old DVD burner for the pen. You could produce

[Emc-users] Lava Moko L72.2 pci parallel port card - epp wide mode for Mesanet 7i43 ?

2012-08-06 Thread Maximilian H
Hello, I have a Lava Moko L72.2 pci parallel port card, but I can only use it with epp_wide=0 in the loadrt line for the mesanet 7i43. $ halrun halcmd: loadrt hostmot2 halcmd: loadrt probe_parport halcmd: loadrt hm2_7i43 config=firmware=hm2/7i43/SVST4_4B.BIT num_encoders=4 num_pwmgens=4