Re: [Emc-users] PathPilot

2015-02-17 Thread Charles Steinkuehler
On 2/17/2015 5:36 PM, Andreas Pettersson wrote: So atm i will stand by my comments, that Tormach is taking more than they are giving. (and are a bit of asshats for doing so). http://xkcd.com/386/ The Tormach folks have been very supportive to the open-source community, and the changes they

Re: [Emc-users] PathPilot

2015-02-17 Thread andy pugh
On 18 February 2015 at 01:34, Pete Matos petefro...@gmail.com wrote: Perhaps I just don't understand but I thought that was the meaning of open source No, Open Source only means what it says. You have access to the code and can change it if you want. There is no requirement that it be written

Re: [Emc-users] PRU programming on the Beagle Bone Black.

2015-02-17 Thread Jon Elson
On 02/17/2015 01:34 PM, Viesturs Lācis wrote: 2015-02-17 20:51 GMT+02:00 Jon Elson el...@pico-systems.com: If you want to experiment with it, I could probably let you have a copy. (I might need a non-disclosure agreement, though.) Thanks for the offer, it seems way too complicated for my

Re: [Emc-users] PathPilot

2015-02-17 Thread Len Shelton
That is obviously the Gremlin backplot. I thought the GPL was pretty clear about linking to GPL'd libraries and software that could not stand on its own without the underlying GPL'd software. What am I missing? Len I guess we will have to agree to disagree... I feel like MANY MANY people

Re: [Emc-users] PathPilot

2015-02-17 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday, February 17, 2015 07:11:00 PM Charles Steinkuehler wrote: On 2/17/2015 5:36 PM, Andreas Pettersson wrote: So atm i will stand by my comments, that Tormach is taking more than they are giving. (and are a bit of asshats for doing so). http://xkcd.com/386/ The Tormach folks

Re: [Emc-users] PathPilot

2015-02-17 Thread Pete Matos
Charles, Where did you get this information and what exactly are they pushing upstream? Thanks for the information.. Pete On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 7:11 PM, Charles Steinkuehler char...@steinkuehler.net wrote: On 2/17/2015 5:36 PM, Andreas Pettersson wrote: So atm i will stand by my

Re: [Emc-users] PathPilot

2015-02-17 Thread Dave Cole
I'll say it. Thank you Tormach !!! I really appreciate it! :-) Dave On 2/17/2015 7:38 PM, andy pugh wrote: On 18 February 2015 at 00:28, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: In any event, an apology from Andreas would not be out of line. Well, as YouTube comments go it was

Re: [Emc-users] PathPilot

2015-02-17 Thread Sebastian Kuzminsky
On 2/17/15 6:52 PM, Pete Matos wrote: I guess we will have to agree to disagree... I feel like MANY MANY people have given freely of their time to make linuxCNC into what it is today INCLUDING things like User interfaces and many many other add ons that make the program so enjoyable and

Re: [Emc-users] PathPilot

2015-02-17 Thread Andreas Pettersson
Well so far it seems that the giving back part is what Andy found out and posted on the NYCCNC youtube comments as well. Digging through the source code on git I really don't see any other major contribution other than the tool path rewrite. And would gladly want to see a list of them

Re: [Emc-users] PathPilot

2015-02-17 Thread andy pugh
On 18 February 2015 at 00:11, Charles Steinkuehler char...@steinkuehler.net wrote: That they haven't tried to tightly couple their company name with the updates they sponsored doesn't make them asshats. There are worse things to be:

Re: [Emc-users] PathPilot

2015-02-17 Thread Pete Matos
Well it is nice that they paid for the work to be done. I do not know why the UI maybe in its basic format would not be made available. I know a LOT of folks have put in many many countless hours to build the basic linuxCNC into what it is now and were not paid a dime for it. Perhaps I just

Re: [Emc-users] PathPilot

2015-02-17 Thread Pete Matos
I guess we will have to agree to disagree... I feel like MANY MANY people have given freely of their time to make linuxCNC into what it is today INCLUDING things like User interfaces and many many other add ons that make the program so enjoyable and stable to use. They gave of it freely and

Re: [Emc-users] PathPilot

2015-02-17 Thread Sebastian Kuzminsky
On 02/17/2015 04:36 PM, Andreas Pettersson wrote: Well so far it seems that the giving back part is what Andy found out and posted on the NYCCNC youtube comments as well. Digging through the source code on git I really don't see any other major contribution other than the tool path rewrite.

Re: [Emc-users] PathPilot

2015-02-17 Thread andy pugh
On 18 February 2015 at 00:28, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: In any event, an apology from Andreas would not be out of line. Well, as YouTube comments go it was unusually complimentary :-) -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't own it. http://www.ifixit.com/Manifesto

Re: [Emc-users] PathPilot

2015-02-17 Thread Sebastian Kuzminsky
On 02/17/2015 06:17 PM, Pete Matos wrote: I thought someone here built the trajectory planner? Are you saying that Tormach built it themselves? I am curious about the UI and honestly even a dumbed down version given back to the community would be a step in the right direction here. Rob

Re: [Emc-users] PathPilot

2015-02-17 Thread Pete Matos
I thought someone here built the trajectory planner? Are you saying that Tormach built it themselves? I am curious about the UI and honestly even a dumbed down version given back to the community would be a step in the right direction here. Pete On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 7:24 PM, Sebastian

Re: [Emc-users] PathPilot

2015-02-17 Thread Marius Liebenberg
I am sure that they will release the controller code at some time. There is no real money to be made from the controller. It just means that they sell their machines easier. I convert machines and build new machines and I do not charge for the software. I do charge for my time to set it up.

Re: [Emc-users] PathPilot

2015-02-17 Thread Andreas Pettersson
When you do derivative work in accordance to GPL you are supposed to publish your alterations with the source code in its full for other to do derivative work off of that. (In Accordance with the GPL licensing form, even the LGPL has this clause and is clearly stated.) You are allowed to

Re: [Emc-users] PRU programming on the Beagle Bone Black.

2015-02-17 Thread Jon Elson
On 02/17/2015 02:04 AM, Gregg Eshelman wrote: Thomas Freiherr is working on the libpruio project to allow PRU support on the BBB. It is “designed for easy configuration and data handling at high speed. libpruio software runs on the host (ARM) and in parallel on a Programmable Realtime Unit

Re: [Emc-users] PRU programming on the Beagle Bone Black.

2015-02-17 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2015-02-17 18:59 GMT+02:00 Jon Elson el...@pico-systems.com: I use it here also to run a laser photoplotter, it unpacks run-length encoded raster files in real time between clocking out the pixels. Could you, please, share more details about the software that controls that machine? Viesturs

Re: [Emc-users] PRU programming on the Beagle Bone Black.

2015-02-17 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2015-02-17 20:51 GMT+02:00 Jon Elson el...@pico-systems.com: If you want to experiment with it, I could probably let you have a copy. (I might need a non-disclosure agreement, though.) Thanks for the offer, it seems way too complicated for my skills... Viesturs

Re: [Emc-users] PRU programming on the Beagle Bone Black.

2015-02-17 Thread Jon Elson
On 02/17/2015 11:16 AM, Viesturs Lācis wrote: 2015-02-17 18:59 GMT+02:00 Jon Elson el...@pico-systems.com: I use it here also to run a laser photoplotter, it unpacks run-length encoded raster files in real time between clocking out the pixels. Could you, please, share more details about the

[Emc-users] PathPilot

2015-02-17 Thread Len Shelton
I'm excited to see that Tormach is giving back to open source! http://www.tormach.com/pathpilot http://www.tormach.com/blog/pathpilot-beta-testing/ Len -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT

[Emc-users] PRU programming on the Beagle Bone Black.

2015-02-17 Thread Gregg Eshelman
Thomas Freiherr is working on the libpruio project to allow PRU support on the BBB. It is “designed for easy configuration and data handling at high speed. libpruio software runs on the host (ARM) and in parallel on a Programmable Realtime Unit SubSystem (= PRUSS or just PRU) and controls the

Re: [Emc-users] Mesa boards and latency

2015-02-17 Thread Karlsson Wang
I have a very similar on my desk. I do not know if latency are good for these or not but it certainly is a very cheap computer. If latency is good enough or not to a large extent depends on which part is the slowest. For a fast tripod with low inertia I would expect it to be slow but for

Re: [Emc-users] PathPilot

2015-02-17 Thread andy pugh
On 17 February 2015 at 21:20, Len Shelton l...@probotix.com wrote: I'm excited to see that Tormach is giving back to open source! I am not sure that they are. I don't see any suggestion that the source if PathPilot will be released. -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't own it.

Re: [Emc-users] PathPilot

2015-02-17 Thread Bruce Layne
Here's a quick video announcing PathPilot from NYCCNC, an active garage shop machinist with a big YouTube following whose channel is sponsored by Tormach. http://youtu.be/WqJmBEWnvpk Start at 6:25 to get past the enthusiastic preamble if you only want to see the PathPilot user interface.