Re: [Emc-users] Making taper lock hubs

2017-03-28 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 27 March 2017 03:56:53 Gene Heskett wrote: > On Monday 27 March 2017 00:17:19 Erik Christiansen wrote: > > On 26.03.17 18:53, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > But is 7 the correct factor? It should be fairly easy to jack it > > > back out. > > > > Gene, I've never made one of them, but looking

Re: [Emc-users] Is there a more elegant way to drive the servo driver enable with mesa 7i76e

2017-03-28 Thread linden
thanks gene and andy looks like i have some more reading to do i will see whats available here and see what i can come up with On 17-03-27 01:29 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Monday 27 March 2017 01:38:13 linden wrote: > >> An other question for the Electronics experts on here; >> >> Is there a

Re: [Emc-users] Making taper lock hubs

2017-03-28 Thread John Kasunich
I can't see how lathe alignment could affect your angle. If you turned the OD running forwards with the cutting tool in front and bored the ID running in reverse with the cutting tool in back, then yes. But if both were done with the spindle going forward then the tip of the cutting tool is

[Emc-users] 3D Printers

2017-03-28 Thread andy pugh
I find myself astonished that I don't have a 3D printer. I am thinking of buying one. Longer-term I think I will end up making a large-format delta pritner, so the one I buy will be more ot a toe-dipping exercise, and I am looking at: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/182454763977 Any thoughts? -- atp

Re: [Emc-users] 3D Printers

2017-03-28 Thread jrmitchellj .
Kind of small. ACME leadscrews instead of ballscrews Not much detail on the build platform (other than thickness) Probably OK for a learning experience & making small toys. Ray --J. Ray Mitchell Jr. jrmitche...@gmail.com (818)324-7573 The dogmas of the quiet past, are inadequate to the

[Emc-users] [SPAM] Gladevcp Problem?

2017-03-28 Thread Todd Zuercher
This morning one of the machine operators ran an update on a machine that had been working fine yesterday. The machine is an older Lucid install with Linuxcnc 2.7.8. It looks to me like the problem has something to do with the Gladevcp, but it had been working before. Anyone know what the

Re: [Emc-users] Making taper lock hubs

2017-03-28 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 28 March 2017 10:06:12 John Kasunich wrote: > I can't see how lathe alignment could affect your angle. If you > turned the OD running forwards with the cutting tool in front and > bored the ID running in reverse with the cutting tool in back, then > yes. But if both were done with

Re: [Emc-users] [SPAM] Gladevcp Problem?

2017-03-28 Thread Nicklas Karlsson
I know linuxcnc does not work with latest version of glade but not much more. On Tue, 28 Mar 2017 10:36:50 -0400 (EDT) "Todd Zuercher" wrote: > This morning one of the machine operators ran an update on a machine that had > been working fine

Re: [Emc-users] 3D Printers

2017-03-28 Thread Andrew
2017-03-28 17:48 GMT+03:00 andy pugh: > I find myself astonished that I don't have a 3D printer. > I am thinking of buying one. > Longer-term I think I will end up making a large-format delta pritner, > so the one I buy will be more ot a toe-dipping exercise, and I am > looking at: >

Re: [Emc-users] 3D Printers

2017-03-28 Thread Gary Crowell
That's a clone of a Flashforge, which is a clone of the Makerbot Replicator (old Replicator, not the new one which they also oddly called the Replicator). It's upgraded in some ways, possibly downgraded in others. But it is known to work pretty well. My original Replicator is still excellent

Re: [Emc-users] 3D Printers

2017-03-28 Thread Les Newell
I have one that is very similar and I bought it pretty much out of curiosity. It sits in the corner of my office gathering dust. My experience with 3D printing was pretty underwhelming. It is very finicky and the results aren't that great. It gets pretty frustrating when something goes wrong 4

Re: [Emc-users] 3D Printers

2017-03-28 Thread John Thornton
xxcoder and I have one of these which goes on sale tomorrow for $196 https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Full-Metal-Frame-3D-Printer-Professional-3d-Color-Printer-with-8GB-SD-Card-LCD-One-Roll/32705186296.html It does need a bit of TLC in some areas but seems to print OK. It is a Prusa i3 clone. I

Re: [Emc-users] 3D Printers

2017-03-28 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 28 March 2017 10:48:18 andy pugh wrote: > I find myself astonished that I don't have a 3D printer. > I am thinking of buying one. > Longer-term I think I will end up making a large-format delta pritner, > so the one I buy will be more ot a toe-dipping exercise, and I am > looking at: >

Re: [Emc-users] 3D Printers

2017-03-28 Thread andy pugh
On 28 March 2017 at 17:18, Les Newell wrote: > The prints also aren't that strong. If you > put enough time into it you can get some good results but most of the > stuff I want to make either needs to be strong or dimensionally accurate > (or usually both together). My

Re: [Emc-users] 3D Printers

2017-03-28 Thread dannym
I have done relatively little 3D printing myself. I do run a community hackerspace with a number of 3D printers, most of which are broken. Many, many cheap 3D printers just can't work out of the box. Badly designed linear axes, terrible ratsnest of wiring, extruder designs that do nothing but

[Emc-users] 3D Printers

2017-03-28 Thread Roland Jollivet
I'm confused about not owning one either. I keep looking at the items made, at trade shows, and in plastic it all looks like junk. Good for fridge magnets mostly. But they're so popular. I must be missing something... Metal printing on the other hand, would be very useful, but the cost of powders

Re: [Emc-users] 3D Printers

2017-03-28 Thread TJoseph Powderly
On Tuesday 28 March 2017 10:48:18 andy pugh wrote: >> I find myself astonished that I don't have a 3D printer. >> I am thinking of buying one. >> Longer-term I think I will end up making a large-format delta pritner, >> so the one I buy will be more ot a toe-dipping exercise, and I am >> looking

Re: [Emc-users] 3D Printers -> 3D printed cake

2017-03-28 Thread Nicklas Karlsson
> I have one that is very similar and I bought it pretty much out of > curiosity. It sits in the corner of my office gathering dust. My > experience with 3D printing was pretty underwhelming. It is very finicky > and the results aren't that great. It gets pretty frustrating when > something

Re: [Emc-users] 3D Printers

2017-03-28 Thread andy pugh
On 28 March 2017 at 23:49, Charles Steinkuehler wrote: > you may need to > reprogram the controller with an open-source firmware and switch to > using a standard slicer vs. the one that comes with it. I have already written one slicer (runs inside Autodesk Inventor,

Re: [Emc-users] 3D Printers

2017-03-28 Thread bari
Maybe something that uses pellets vs filament and has a large nozzle: http://www.titan3drobotics.com/pellet-extrusion-3d-printing-on-the-atlas/ https://i0.wp.com/dev.titan3drobotics.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/engine-block-edit.jpg 33 hours for that print On 03/28/2017 09:48 AM, andy pugh

Re: [Emc-users] 3D Printers

2017-03-28 Thread Charles Steinkuehler
On 3/28/2017 9:48 AM, andy pugh wrote: > I find myself astonished that I don't have a 3D printer. > I am thinking of buying one. > Longer-term I think I will end up making a large-format delta pritner, > so the one I buy will be more ot a toe-dipping exercise, and I am > looking at: >

Re: [Emc-users] 3D Printers -> 3D printed cake

2017-03-28 Thread MC Cason
On 03/28/2017 02:25 PM, Chris Albertson wrote: > I see the argument as going like this > > One group says these 3d printers are worthless because they can't be used > to make the stuff I am now making. For example "I can't print an exhaust > valve for a diesel truck motor." > > The second group

Re: [Emc-users] 3D Printers

2017-03-28 Thread Charles Steinkuehler
On 3/28/2017 6:01 PM, andy pugh wrote: > On 28 March 2017 at 23:49, Charles Steinkuehler > wrote: >> you may need to >> reprogram the controller with an open-source firmware and switch to >> using a standard slicer vs. the one that comes with it. > > I have already

Re: [Emc-users] 3D Printers

2017-03-28 Thread MC Cason
That same one can be had on Ebay, for $154, with free US based shipping: http://www.ebay.com/itm/332158713527 If you are a minimalist, there's a version for $1.00 less: http://www.ebay.com/itm/112220106379?var=412749117925=true On 03/28/2017 11:05 AM, John Thornton wrote: > xxcoder and I

Re: [Emc-users] 3D Printers -> 3D printed cake

2017-03-28 Thread andy pugh
On 28 March 2017 at 23:54, MC Cason wrote: > I can envision a future where you see something on whatever > future version of the internet is, you order it, and it is built in your > home manufacturing unit. Instant gratification at it's finest. > However, a LOT of

Re: [Emc-users] 3D Printers -> 3D printed cake

2017-03-28 Thread MC Cason
On 03/28/2017 06:07 PM, andy pugh wrote: > On 28 March 2017 at 23:54, MC Cason wrote: >> I can envision a future where you see something on whatever >> future version of the internet is, you order it, and it is built in your >> home manufacturing unit. Instant

Re: [Emc-users] 3D Printers

2017-03-28 Thread Gregg Eshelman
If you want inexpensive but good quality and compact, check out the Monoprice Select Mini. (AKA Malyan M200) There's a Facebook group for it with over 5,000 members, many of which have two or more of the printers. It comes fully assembled out of the box, mostly steel construction and weighs

Re: [Emc-users] 3D Printers

2017-03-28 Thread Ken Strauss
PVC foam moulding might be another option: https://www.homedepot.ca/en/home/p.1-inch-x-4-inch-x-8-feet-veranda-pvc-trim-board-white.1000761916.html You can make large blocks by glueing 1x4 or 1x6 pieces with PVC glue. I've been using it as an alternative to machineable wax. It is more

Re: [Emc-users] 3D Printers.

2017-03-28 Thread John Alexander Stewart
I've got a 3D printer here, a PrintrBot Simple, wooden one. The city library has a set of printers and laser cutters. I think I'd use that. Current project, drawing up some parts that will get printed at the library or at Shapeways. Do you really need a 3D printer? I don't - my Printrbot is

Re: [Emc-users] 3D Printers.

2017-03-28 Thread andy pugh
On 28 March 2017 at 18:31, John Alexander Stewart wrote: > Do you really need a 3D printer? No, nor do I need a lathe or milling machine, I could get parts made by machine shops. Or simply not bother making stuff at all. -- atp "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium

Re: [Emc-users] 3D Printers

2017-03-28 Thread Chris Albertson
On Tue, Mar 28, 2017 at 10:17 AM, andy pugh wrote: > On 28 March 2017 at 17:18, Les Newell wrote: > > The prints also aren't that strong. If you > > put enough time into it you can get some good results but most of the > > stuff I want to make

Re: [Emc-users] 3D Printers

2017-03-28 Thread dannym
Parts can be quite strong. Although, I've seen plenty of prints with a bad layer (can be as simple as the air conditioning kicking in and shrinking the plastic suddenly). You can print out objects that would be difficult to mill, such as things requiring 5-axis milling, exotic holddown

Re: [Emc-users] 3D Printers

2017-03-28 Thread Charles Buckley
Pretty sure those are belt driven, not screw driven. On Tue, Mar 28, 2017 at 9:14 AM, jrmitchellj . wrote: > Kind of small. > ACME leadscrews instead of ballscrews > Not much detail on the build platform (other than thickness) > > Probably OK for a learning experience &

Re: [Emc-users] 3D Printers -> 3D printed cake

2017-03-28 Thread Chris Albertson
I see the argument as going like this One group says these 3d printers are worthless because they can't be used to make the stuff I am now making. For example "I can't print an exhaust valve for a diesel truck motor." The second group sees the printers and thinks about using it for new

Re: [Emc-users] 3D Printers

2017-03-28 Thread hubert
Andy I own two 3d printers, and have had mixed results. The second one looked like a bargain but was made out of plywood and firmly etched in my mind the advantage of metal. My first one was a single extruder model made out of aluminum and plastic. Later revisions are replacing even

Re: [Emc-users] 3D Printers

2017-03-28 Thread Charles Buckley
Not sure if anyone would be interested, but in about 11 hours, Aliexpress is having a sale. I am seeing some 3D printers listed. On Tue, Mar 28, 2017 at 12:53 PM, Charles Buckley wrote: > Pretty sure those are belt driven, not screw driven. > > On Tue, Mar 28, 2017 at

Re: [Emc-users] Emc-users Digest, Vol 131, Issue 87

2017-03-28 Thread John Alexander Stewart
Andy to my comment wrote: >> Do you really need a 3D printer? > No, nor do I need a lathe or milling machine, I could get parts made > by machine shops. Or simply not bother making stuff at all. True enough, although a group of us do tend to share tools - last foreign user of my machine shop

Re: [Emc-users] Emc-users Digest, Vol 131, Issue 87

2017-03-28 Thread Andrew
2017-03-28 21:59 GMT+03:00 John Alexander Stewart: > The olde Stratasys that I had access to at work (I have since left) > produced items about 1,000x better than I ever got from my home printer, > despite weeks and weeks of tweaking the home printer. > Do you mean FDM Stratasys? What was so

Re: [Emc-users] 3D Printers -> 3D printed cake

2017-03-28 Thread Nicklas Karlsson
I think the cake is a little bit funny and it also taste good but it is not the best cake around. On Tue, 28 Mar 2017 12:25:41 -0700 Chris Albertson wrote: > I see the argument as going like this > > One group says these 3d printers are worthless because they can't

Re: [Emc-users] 3D Printers

2017-03-28 Thread Ralph Stirling
The DMG-Mori combined powdered metal/laser AM and 5-axis CNC machining is very cool, but something close to $1M for the system. There are some efforts being made at wire-fed welder AM systems. I met a fellow from such a company at a 3d printing conference two weeks ago. He was lugging around a

Re: [Emc-users] Emc-users Digest, Vol 131, Issue 89

2017-03-28 Thread John Alexander Stewart
Two replies here: From: Andrew > > > The olde Stratasys that I had access to at work (I have since left) > > produced items about 1,000x better than I ever got from my home printer, > > despite weeks and weeks of tweaking the home printer. > > > > Do you mean FDM Stratasys? >

Re: [Emc-users] 3D printers

2017-03-28 Thread James Isaac
> Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2017 18:17:31 +0100 > From: andy pugh > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] 3D Printers > > On 28 March 2017 at 17:18, Les Newell wrote: > > The prints also aren't that strong. If you > > put enough time into it you can get some good