Re: [Emc-users] MachineKit on the BeagleBone Black

Earlier this year I downloaded the latest release of Ubuntu and installed it on an old laptop. I wanted to change the time/date display. Does it have a dialog box where one can simply... change the time and date format? No. You have to search online or ask on a forum for the 'secret code'

Re: [Emc-users] MachineKit on the BeagleBone Black

> On Oct 11, 2017, at 4:30 PM, Martin Dobbins wrote: > > What it needs is money, unfortunately. > > > The heavy lifting has already been done by the person who put together Path > Pilot, now it needs some people to turn Path Pilot into something that will > run on any

Re: [Emc-users] MachineKit on the BeagleBone Black

On 10/12/2017 05:49 AM, Gregg Eshelman via Emc-users wrote: Earlier this year I downloaded the latest release of Ubuntu and installed it on an old laptop. I wanted to change the time/date display. Does it have a dialog box where one can simply... change the time and date format? No. You

Re: [Emc-users] MachineKit on the BeagleBone Black

One of the newer thin clients should be able to run LCNC very nicely. I finally got my Light Machines mill shifted out to where I can get at it to work with it. Just need to get unbusy with other things so I can see about putting DOS on a WYSE S30 to run its old software. It'll work with

Re: [Emc-users] MachineKit on the BeagleBone Black

Apple doesn't like JAVA. Apple doesn't like Flash. Whatever Apple says is old news, the rest of the computer industry is quick to marginalize or stop developing completely.Apple said "Flash is bad, mmmkay?" and Adobe just about instantly stopped updating Flash player for Android. No reason

[Emc-users] Easy program building Re: MachineKit on the BeagleBone Black

I've been looking for something simple to make a remote control app for the Toshiba TLP-7xx series digital projectors. They have an RS232C port and the commands are mostly plain text, except for whatever STX (02h) and ETH (03h) are. I assume that's shorthand for Start and End transmission and

Re: [Emc-users] MachineKit on the BeagleBone Black

On 11 October 2017 at 22:30, Martin Dobbins wrote: > now it needs some people to turn Path Pilot into something that will run on > any machine that runs linuxcnc The only thing in the way of that is the things that Tormach have done specifically to make it difficult (or so

Re: [Emc-users] MachineKit on the BeagleBone Black

On 11 October 2017 at 22:30, Martin Dobbins wrote: > What it needs is money, unfortunately. Why do you say that? We have got this far without any money. -- atp "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is designed for the especial use of mechanical

Re: [Emc-users] MachineKit on the BeagleBone Black

If I were to build and sell commercial machine controllers and did not want to have to port my code to SBC of the day I would divide it into three discount chunks 1) hard real time. It would run one ARM Cortex M. These are $1 to $2 chips. Like very powerful PRUs. I would run a very light with

Re: [Emc-users] MachineKit on the BeagleBone Black

On 12 Oct 2017, at 13:35, andy pugh wrote: > On 11 October 2017 at 22:30, Martin Dobbins wrote: >> now it needs some people to turn Path Pilot into something that will run on >> any machine that runs linuxcnc > > The only thing in the way of that is the things that Tormach

Re: [Emc-users] MachineKit on the BeagleBone Black

On 12 October 2017 at 15:11, Marcus Bowman wrote: > Intriguing... > So; can you comment on those things Tormach have done with hardware as they > created PathPilot; and the ease with which it might be made to run on more > 'ordinary' machines and setups? I

Re: [Emc-users] MachineKit on the BeagleBone Black

It was in response to comparisons being made to commercial software such as Apple, Microsoft, Google and Tormach. Money is not required to make progress, it sometimes makes it faster, though. The work that is going on right now to make Path Pilot run on any machine that can run Linuxcnc

Re: [Emc-users] MachineKit on the BeagleBone Black

Let's change the subject line to something like "How to clone Path Pilot on LinuxCNC" since I doubt they are using a Beagle. John > -Original Message- > From: Marcus Bowman [mailto:marcus.bow...@visible.eclipse.co.uk] > Sent: October-12-17 7:11 AM > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)

Re: [Emc-users] Path Pilot on LinuxCNC -- Was MachineKit on the BeagleBone Black

MACH3 apparently won't run on 64bit machines without a parallel port. MACH4 was supposed to be the successor and support more of the 64bit machines and external stepper engines. Not only that they have a licensing method that is tied to the hardware and more expensive for commercial systems. In

Re: [Emc-users] MachineKit on the BeagleBone Black

On 12 October 2017 at 17:47, John Dammeyer wrote: > Let's change the subject line to something like "How to clone Path Pilot on > LinuxCNC" since I doubt they are using a Beagle. No they use a generic PC and a Mesa 5i25. -- atp "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a

Re: [Emc-users] Path Pilot on LinuxCNC -- Was MachineKit on the BeagleBone Black

Tormach says they don't support path pilot on 3rd party equipment. It likely depends on specialized hardware so it would not run without modification and I don't think they have source code available. But what they did should serve as an example of what an open source controller could look

Re: [Emc-users] MachineKit on the BeagleBone Black

Have any of you looked at what you can do with linuxcnc?  I cannot fathom how you could create a gui that configures it.  There is stepconf and pncconf wizards to help get a basic config going - but beyond that you will be editing hal and ini files.  It isn't that bad. If you are looking for

Re: [Emc-users] Path Pilot on LinuxCNC -- Was MachineKit on the BeagleBone Black

Some folks just want to buy a cake NOW. Microsoft has educated the world that way. Apple doesn't support its OS on non- Apple hardware either, but people still do it. Path Pilot is not an operating system it is a front end user interface, and I believe (as Andy says) that if someone sets

Re: [Emc-users] Path Pilot on LinuxCNC -- Was MachineKit on the BeagleBone Black

As far as I can tell PathPilot is basically Linuxcnc 2.6 with some minor tweaks and a fancy (and SLOW to load) GUI. I set up PathPilot on my mill the the other day so see how difficult it actually was, and for S I even hooked up the onscreen override sliders so they would update appropriately

Re: [Emc-users] MachineKit on the BeagleBone Black

On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 1:40 PM, sam sokolik wrote: > as far as screen editing - I never felt the need for it. Sure it would be > neat. I get buy adding side panels to the existing gui for extra things I > need. > Gscreen is a possiblilty also someone is working on a

Re: [Emc-users] Path Pilot on LinuxCNC -- Was MachineKit on the BeagleBone Black

On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 1:01 PM, Chris Albertson wrote: > Tormach says they don't support path pilot on 3rd party equipment. It > likely > depends on specialized hardware so it would not run without modification > and I don't think they have source code available. >

Re: [Emc-users] Path Pilot on LinuxCNC -- Was MachineKit on the BeagleBone Black

On 10/12/2017 12:07 PM, Kurt Jacobson wrote: On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 1:01 PM, Chris Albertson wrote: Tormach says they don't support path pilot on 3rd party equipment. It likely depends on specialized hardware so it would not run without modification and I don't

Re: [Emc-users] Path Pilot on LinuxCNC -- Was MachineKit on the BeagleBone Black

Yes, that is true about Apple. I think it is a good analogy. In both cases Neither Tormach or Apple make it easy to run on 3rd party hardware and doing so is only for experts Anyone have a link the PP? Especially PP source code? On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 10:44 AM, Martin Dobbins

Re: [Emc-users] Path Pilot on LinuxCNC -- Was MachineKit on the BeagleBone Black

I think it is clear that end users should never have to edit a text file.<< What! Why ?? So we get rid of Gcode entirely since they are text files?? When my Mom sends me an email she creates and edits a text file. She's 87. Why would we want to restrict users to "point and click"? Dave

Re: [Emc-users] Path Pilot on LinuxCNC -- Was MachineKit on the BeagleBone Black

I would much prefer to edit a well thought out and documented config file than use pretty much any Grunt n' Click interface. People who come from Win and OSX are not used to that, so it seems crude to them at first, but they soon learn to wield the powerful text editor with the best of them. At

Re: [Emc-users] Path Pilot on LinuxCNC -- Was MachineKit on the BeagleBone Black

> >>I think it is clear that end users should never have to edit a text file.<< > > What! Why ?? > > So we get rid of Gcode entirely since they are text files?? > > When my Mom sends me an email she creates and edits a text file. She's 87. > > Why would we want to restrict users to "point

Re: [Emc-users] Path Pilot on LinuxCNC -- Was MachineKit on the BeagleBone Black

On Thu, 12 Oct 2017 15:17:09 -0400 Kurt Jacobson wrote: > I would much prefer to edit a well thought out and documented config file > than use pretty much any Grunt n' Click interface. Agree. > People who come from Win and OSX are not used to that, so it seems crude to

Re: [Emc-users] OT Text vs GUI Was Path Pilot on LinuxCNC -- Was MachineKit on the BeagleBone Black

Even the shining flagship of the premier proponent of Grunt n' Click requires (more than) a little under the hood work: *warning, long video that has nothing to do with CNC or machining* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SaYbFmB2rDw Martin From: Kurt

Re: [Emc-users] MachineKit on the BeagleBone Black

Nice. > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O60aKSgUUts > > > > sam > > > Thanks for mentioning my little project Sam! Long way to go yet before it > is really usable though > > Cheers, > Kurt -- Check out the

Re: [Emc-users] MachineKit on the BeagleBone Black

On 12 Oct 2017, at 18:40, sam sokolik wrote: > -Purchase the acorn from centroid. Not too expensive - unless you want the > bells and whistles of the 'ultimate' software (add $499 to the price of the > hardware) http://www.centroidcnc.com/centroid_diy/acorn_cnc_controller.html Interesting

Re: [Emc-users] Path Pilot on LinuxCNC -- Was MachineKit on the BeagleBone Black

> I would much prefer to edit a well thought out and documented config file > than use pretty much any Grunt n' Click interface. > People who come from Win and OSX are not used to that, so it seems crude to > them at first, but they soon learn to wield the powerful text editor with > the best of

Re: [Emc-users] Path Pilot on LinuxCNC -- Was MachineKit on the BeagleBone Black

On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 3:17 PM, John Dammeyer wrote: > > I would much prefer to edit a well thought out and documented config file > > than use pretty much any Grunt n' Click interface. > > People who come from Win and OSX are not used to that, so it seems crude > to > >

Re: [Emc-users] Path Pilot on LinuxCNC -- Was MachineKit on the BeagleBone Black

On 13 October 2017 at 00:31, Chris Albertson wrote: > At the very least this could have been implemented with an HTML form > where clicking on the parameter name brings up a pop-up wit the parameter's > definition Except that the INI file entries are entirely

Re: [Emc-users] Path Pilot on LinuxCNC -- Was MachineKit on the BeagleBone Black

Hi Chris, It's even simpler than that. Free XML editors are all over the place. Even on Windows. The application should know ahead of time which parameters like "DIRSETUP" are required. So a form or series of forms for all these parameters that do range checking. And what's really cool, if