Re: [Emc-users] Help requested - stepper drivers.

2014-07-05 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 05 July 2014 22:36:42 John Alexander Stewart did opine And Gene did reply: > Hi Gene; > > No, my little Unimat is really just for show. I take it to exhibitions, > and it moves around, but does not cut anything. > > I *could* take some of my spare parts and make it thread, but to be >

Re: [Emc-users] Help requested - stepper drivers.

2014-07-05 Thread Cecil Thomas
John, If I can get the shop straightened up a bit in the next couple of days I will try to show a 00-90 being cut on the Derbyshire(tiny), the Griz 9x20 (middle size), and the Monarch 10EE (just right). Most people are more impressed with the 10EE making the tiny screw than they are with the s

Re: [Emc-users] Help requested - stepper drivers.

2014-07-05 Thread Gregg Eshelman
On 7/5/2014 3:14 PM, Marcus Bowman wrote: > Not necessarily. I'm using 600NM NEMA 34 triple stack steppers, with Gecko > 201s running at 78volts. PSU is based on two toroidal transformers, giving up > to 10A at 80v for up to 4 steppers. Over current and over voltage protection, > with soft star

Re: [Emc-users] Help requested - stepper drivers.

2014-07-05 Thread John Alexander Stewart
Hi Gene; No, my little Unimat is really just for show. I take it to exhibitions, and it moves around, but does not cut anything. I *could* take some of my spare parts and make it thread, but to be honest, it's one of the first ones, with a motor that is barely powerful enough to turn the spindle,

Re: [Emc-users] mach3

2014-07-05 Thread Gregg Eshelman
Get ready for Mach 3! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yL-u7lsMxk The intro music, sound effects and voices in the game were all digitized audio played through the PC speaker, without interrupting anything else. To bad the game's authors didn't put as much effort into the effects as they did t

Re: [Emc-users] mach3

2014-07-05 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 05 July 2014 20:05:56 a k did opine And Gene did reply: > Hi > > I can see that some people get obsession for FREE thing like a free > help. > > If it is FREE , one free to do everything. Why?--- because it is FREE. > > No rule no restriction because it is FREE. > > > > One remark

Re: [Emc-users] mach3

2014-07-05 Thread a k
Hi I can see that some people get obsession for FREE thing like a free help. If it is FREE , one free to do everything. Why?--- because it is FREE. No rule no restriction because it is FREE. One remark – you got what you paid for--- Possible talk a lot about FREE thing ( google.com is FREE

Re: [Emc-users] Help requested - stepper drivers.

2014-07-05 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 05 July 2014 19:08:34 John Alexander Stewart did opine And Gene did reply: > Andy, Marcus, Claude, Gene; > > Thanks for the feedback and the link. > > I logged back on to say that I had purchased some of those DM856 > controllers, enough for my 4 axis mill build, plus one spare, just

Re: [Emc-users] Help requested - stepper drivers.

2014-07-05 Thread John Alexander Stewart
Andy, Marcus, Claude, Gene; Thanks for the feedback and the link. I logged back on to say that I had purchased some of those DM856 controllers, enough for my 4 axis mill build, plus one spare, just in case. I do have a larger lathe that I'm trying to get myself to CNC - an Emco Compact-8, and th

Re: [Emc-users] Help requested - stepper drivers.

2014-07-05 Thread Marcus Bowman
On 5 Jul 2014, at 22:25, andy pugh wrote: > On 5 July 2014 22:14, Marcus Bowman > wrote: >> I just don't believe in trying to trim the size or power of a stepper to >> save a few pounds/dollars. I'd rather over-spec slightly in the knowledge >> that I have power in hand. > > It isn't necessa

Re: [Emc-users] Help requested - stepper drivers.

2014-07-05 Thread andy pugh
On 5 July 2014 22:14, Marcus Bowman wrote: > I just don't believe in trying to trim the size or power of a stepper to save > a few pounds/dollars. I'd rather over-spec slightly in the knowledge that I > have power in hand. It isn't necessarily that simple, though. It seems that the smaller step

Re: [Emc-users] Help requested - stepper drivers.

2014-07-05 Thread Marcus Bowman
On 5 Jul 2014, at 13:54, John Alexander Stewart wrote: > Hi all; Hope this question is considered on-topic, or at least not too far > off. > > I'm doing another CNC conversion - my largest yet. G0704 (BF20) style mill, > and I'm wondering about stepper drivers. (Have a Mesa 5i25/7i76 combo; > ma

Re: [Emc-users] mach3

2014-07-05 Thread Dave Cole
>>There are site 'selling' Mach3 below the cost of a licence. That's a new low. :-( Dave On 7/5/2014 3:53 PM, Lester Caine wrote: > On 05/07/14 17:25, Dave Cole wrote: >> That would not surprise me. There are people out there who have become >> very good at removing "activations". > There

Re: [Emc-users] mach3

2014-07-05 Thread Dave Cole
On 7/5/2014 12:30 PM, Rafael Skodlar wrote: > When you are exploring a different system then ask questions about it on > related forums. Except that he said that he could not find the appropriate forum and he was asking for direction. That seems reasonable to me. >>You need to go read email e

Re: [Emc-users] mach3

2014-07-05 Thread Lester Caine
On 05/07/14 17:25, Dave Cole wrote: > That would not surprise me. There are people out there who have become > very good at removing "activations". There are site 'selling' Mach3 below the cost of a licence. Some of the licences are simply copies, others are 'hacked' keys. Yes you only need a '

Re: [Emc-users] mach3

2014-07-05 Thread Stuart Stevenson
Rafael, I also don't find this thread amusing. I don't consider anyone a target. Sorry, no catty remarks from me. Thanks Stuart On Jul 5, 2014 11:32 AM, "Rafael Skodlar" wrote: > I have no horse in his race but found this thread amusing until now. > > On 07/05/2014 05:23 AM, Stuart Stevenson wrot

Re: [Emc-users] Help requested - stepper drivers.

2014-07-05 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 05 July 2014 12:06:33 Claude Froidevaux did opine And Gene did reply: > Hi, > > leadshine is a china brand of good quality stepper driver > (automationlogic seem to be leadshine model DM856 for example, there is > a lot of re-branding within leadshine drives) > > I like the digital ve

Re: [Emc-users] mach3

2014-07-05 Thread Rafael Skodlar
I have no horse in his race but found this thread amusing until now. On 07/05/2014 05:23 AM, Stuart Stevenson wrote: > Not sure what Aram is looking for but why is there so many catty remarks > and so much sarcasm. I can think of more than one reason to explore a > different system. When you are

Re: [Emc-users] Help requested - stepper drivers.

2014-07-05 Thread Greg Bernard
I don't know about the newer digital drives from Automation Technologies but I have my gantry router set up with these: http://www.automationtechnologiesinc.com/products-page/stepper-nema23-3-axis-kits/cnc-stepper-motor-3-axis-kit-2. They have performed flawlessly for nearly 5 years driving 2 TPI

Re: [Emc-users] mach3

2014-07-05 Thread Dave Cole
Aram, Mach3 works when used within its limits. But if you want to do any customization of Mach3 you need to know its limits. Get on the Forum and do some research and don't think you can just "work around" the well known issues. http://www.machsupport.com/forum/index.php?board=1.0 Dave On 7/3

Re: [Emc-users] Help requested - stepper drivers.

2014-07-05 Thread Claude Froidevaux
Hi, leadshine is a china brand of good quality stepper driver (automationlogic seem to be leadshine model DM856 for example, there is a lot of re-branding within leadshine drives) I like the digital version (DM series, you can tune out some resonance, work well). I don't know much about the st

Re: [Emc-users] mach3

2014-07-05 Thread Dave Cole
Lester, What do you mean by "hacked versions"? The original Mach3 prior to the latest "secure" activation scheme was not copy protected. You could buy a copy and get the license key and duplicate it a thousand times if you wanted to. The only recourse that Mach3 had was to prevent it from b

Re: [Emc-users] Help requested - stepper drivers.

2014-07-05 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 05 July 2014 08:54:14 John Alexander Stewart did opine And Gene did reply: > Hi all; Hope this question is considered on-topic, or at least not too > far off. > > I'm doing another CNC conversion - my largest yet. G0704 (BF20) style > mill, and I'm wondering about stepper drivers. (Hav

[Emc-users] Help requested - stepper drivers.

2014-07-05 Thread John Alexander Stewart
Hi all; Hope this question is considered on-topic, or at least not too far off. I'm doing another CNC conversion - my largest yet. G0704 (BF20) style mill, and I'm wondering about stepper drivers. (Have a Mesa 5i25/7i76 combo; maybe my next machine will be servo) I'm wondering about drivers - I h

Re: [Emc-users] debounce docs?

2014-07-05 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 05 July 2014 08:11:12 John Thornton did opine And Gene did reply: > Gene, does this make better sense now? > > http://linuxcnc.org/docs/html/man/man9/debounce.9.html > > JT I forgot to say thank you John, I'll take 30 lashes with a wet noodle. ;) Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are

Re: [Emc-users] debounce docs?

2014-07-05 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 05 July 2014 08:11:12 John Thornton did opine And Gene did reply: > Gene, does this make better sense now? > > http://linuxcnc.org/docs/html/man/man9/debounce.9.html > > JT Yes, quite a bit more sense. I might add that "each ,[size] creates a new group" just to say it explicitly.

Re: [Emc-users] mach3

2014-07-05 Thread Alex Joni
Spot on Philipp, I don't have anything against Mach3. I use one* every other day :) Joke aside, Mach3 shares some codebase with LinuxCNC (early days, when LinuxCNC was still EMC - and public domain). Other than that I have no real interest in it ... Cheers, Alex * http://lmgtfy.com/?q=mach3

Re: [Emc-users] mach3

2014-07-05 Thread Stuart Stevenson
Not sure what Aram is looking for but why is there so many catty remarks and so much sarcasm. I can think of more than one reason to explore a different system. If you just want to put someone down why don't you pick a target that will fight back. All I see from Aram is questions about what problem

Re: [Emc-users] mach3

2014-07-05 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 05 July 2014 07:28:02 Philipp Burch did opine And Gene did reply: > Hi Gene, > > I think that Alex meant to send back the broken Google, not Mach3 ;) > > Cheers, > Philipp Chuckle. But either way, the "send it back" was good advice. Google seems to be playing with its search resul

Re: [Emc-users] debounce docs?

2014-07-05 Thread John Thornton
Gene, does this make better sense now? http://linuxcnc.org/docs/html/man/man9/debounce.9.html JT On 7/2/2014 9:47 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Wednesday 02 July 2014 10:05:09 Gene Heskett did opine > And Gene did reply: >> On Wednesday 02 July 2014 08:40:07 andy pugh did opine >> >> And Gene did

Re: [Emc-users] mach3

2014-07-05 Thread Philipp Burch
Hi Gene, I think that Alex meant to send back the broken Google, not Mach3 ;) Cheers, Philipp On 05.07.2014 13:09, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Saturday 05 July 2014 05:51:58 Alex Joni did opine > And Gene did reply: >> Send it back, get a refund >> >> Alex > > My thoughts exactly, Aram, Linuxcnc c

Re: [Emc-users] mach3

2014-07-05 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 05 July 2014 05:51:58 Alex Joni did opine And Gene did reply: > Send it back, get a refund > > Alex My thoughts exactly, Aram, Linuxcnc can I believe do anything Mach3 can do. First, it only runs on windows, and thats strikes one, two and three you're out right there. Cheers, Gene

Re: [Emc-users] mach3

2014-07-05 Thread Alex Joni
Send it back, get a refund Alex - Original Message - From: "Marius Liebenberg" To: Sent: Friday, July 04, 2014 11:58 AM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] mach3 > Your Google is broken > > On 2014-07-03 21:54, a k wrote: >> hi >> i use google to fine who make mach3 and found a lot noise. >> w

Re: [Emc-users] Technique question

2014-07-05 Thread Steve Blackmore
On Fri, 4 Jul 2014 19:45:31 -0500, you wrote: >That would be large enough to have some physical instability at high speed. >You could also have room to put a number of pickups around it and gain >resolution by reading them sequentially. I have an encoder disk made of tufnel on my lathe - it's aro