[Emc-users] Building sim on Ubuntu 15.04

2015-06-30 Thread Andy Howell
I just built the simulator on Ubuntu 15.04. It was pretty straight 
forward, but I had to add a few missing packages:

Ubuntu 15.04 also needed:

apt-get install bwidget
apt-get install libtk-img
apt-get install Tclx

I modified linuxcnc/debian/configure:

diff configure configure.org
90,93d89
 Ubuntu-15.04) # Vivid
 
EXTRA_BUILD=dvipng,texlive-extra-utils,texlive-latex-recommended,texlive-fonts-recommended,ghostscript,imagemagick,texlive-font-utils,module-init-tools,bwidget,libtk-img,Tclx
   TCLTK_VERSION=8.6
   ;;

Seems to work fine,

Andy


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Re: [Emc-users] flashing with mesaflash?

2015-06-30 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Tue, 30 Jun 2015, Drew Rogge wrote:

 Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2015 18:38:43 -0700
 From: Drew Rogge d...@dasrogges.com
 Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
 emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
 To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
 Subject: Re: [Emc-users] flashing with mesaflash?
 
 The bit file is what gets written to the board. Don't forget to power cycle 
 your computer after installing. Not reboot, not restart, power cycle. The 
 power cycle is necessary to write the code to the FPGA.

 Drew

If you started with the 5I25 loaded with a fairly recent bitfile, you can also 
use mesaflash's --reload option to load the new bitfile into the FPGA instead 
of a power cycle


 On 6/30/15 6:32 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:
 I have installed these file from 5i25.zip, into /lib/firmware/hm2/5i25:
 gene@GO704:/lib/firmware/hm2$ ls -l 5i25
 total 348
 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 340704 Sep  5  2014 5i25_prob_rfx2.bit
 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root   9504 Jan 17  2014 5i25_prob_rfx2.xml

 But which is it that I am supposed to write to the 5i25, using mesaflash?
 ISTR its the .xml file but its been a year or so since the last time I
 did it.

 Some install docs in that 5i25.zip sure would be handy.

 Is there another site that does explain this?

 Cheers, Gene Heskett


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Re: [Emc-users] CHNC Auction East Coast

2015-06-30 Thread dave
Maybe not. google shows weight at closer to 5225. Not so bad unless
you are shipping coast to coast.

D

On 06/30/2015 02:39 PM, Stuart Stevenson wrote:
 Picture shows controller power on.
 It is my guess the machine is a running machine.

 On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 4:34 PM, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote:

 On Tuesday 30 June 2015 17:02:44 Mark Johnsen wrote:
 I couldn't figure out where this actually is located, buy New Jersey
 or somewhere around there:
 http://bid.acceleratedbuysell.com/cgi-bin/mnlist.cgi?perillo106/CP3

 Mark
 Well, heres someones chance to own the gold standard for a few cents on
 the dollar. $1800? It can't be working.

 I do not have the physical room, nor the foundation to support it as my
 guess is north of 10,000 lbs.

 I wonder what is wrong with it?  Controller tits up?

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Re: [Emc-users] flashing with mesaflash?

2015-06-30 Thread Drew Rogge
The bit file is what gets written to the board. Don't forget to power cycle 
your computer after installing. Not reboot, not restart, power cycle. The power 
cycle is necessary to write the code to the FPGA.

Drew

On 6/30/15 6:32 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:
 I have installed these file from 5i25.zip, into /lib/firmware/hm2/5i25:
 gene@GO704:/lib/firmware/hm2$ ls -l 5i25
 total 348
 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 340704 Sep  5  2014 5i25_prob_rfx2.bit
 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root   9504 Jan 17  2014 5i25_prob_rfx2.xml

 But which is it that I am supposed to write to the 5i25, using mesaflash?
 ISTR its the .xml file but its been a year or so since the last time I
 did it.

 Some install docs in that 5i25.zip sure would be handy.

 Is there another site that does explain this?

 Cheers, Gene Heskett


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Re: [Emc-users] flashing with mesaflash?

2015-06-30 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Tue, 30 Jun 2015, Gene Heskett wrote:

 Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2015 23:26:15 -0400
 From: Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com
 Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
 emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
 To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
 Subject: Re: [Emc-users] flashing with mesaflash?
 
 On Tuesday 30 June 2015 21:48:22 Peter C. Wallace wrote:
 On Tue, 30 Jun 2015, Gene Heskett wrote:
 Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2015 21:32:48 -0400
 From: Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com
 Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
 emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
 To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
 emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [Emc-users] flashing with
 mesaflash?

 I have installed these file from 5i25.zip, into
 /lib/firmware/hm2/5i25: gene@GO704:/lib/firmware/hm2$ ls -l 5i25
 total 348
 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 340704 Sep  5  2014 5i25_prob_rfx2.bit
 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root   9504 Jan 17  2014 5i25_prob_rfx2.xml

 But which is it that I am supposed to write to the 5i25, using
 mesaflash? ISTR its the .xml file but its been a year or so since
 the last time I did it.

 You write .bit files with mesaflash, for a 5I25 you want to make sure
 you write bitfiles that have a 5i25_x.bit file name also

 In this case, it looks like prob_rfx2.bit was the correct file.  No
 errors on the --write, or --reload which according to the
 mesaflash --help screen, can sub for the power cycle.

 And I fooled around with pncconf and finally got it to write a config
 directory.  But its too late to test it now.  Tomorrow if I get the
 spindle motor re-installed. Whoever put it together at the factory ought
 to be fired, the black motor lead that connects to the load side of a
 back panel fuse holder, was not soldered, only being held against the
 connector tab by the heat shrink!

 Unforch, I am not going to have it carving parts by the 7th, when my
 youngest son is coming in for 2 or 3 days of target practice.  The
 photo-interrupters and limit/home switches are predicted to arrive on
 the 7th. By then I expect the faster breakout board will have arrived.

 The 5I25 manual has an example command line

 Yes, for a configuration that is not of any great interest or use to me.

 What I need next is a translator table that converts the module numbers I
 see in pncconf, to pin numbers on plug 2 of the board.  Humm, doesn't
 dmesg report that?  Yes, it did on the lathe, so that will suffice
 there.  And probably far less confusin because its as its seen at fire
 up LCNC time.  I don't think I'd want to consider the complexity of a
 table that covered all possible options, it might nudify the amazon
 forest.

 Some install docs in that 5i25.zip sure would be handy.

 Specifically, where to put ALL the files in it.

 Thanks Peter.


The bitfiles dont need to be installed anywhere, you just pick one thats 
appropriate for you application/daughtercard and write it.

The .pin files are the referernce info for a particular configuration 
so for example prob_rfx2.pin shows the configuration modules and pinout

Also mesaflash can display this information for installed hardware:

sudo mesaflash --device 5i25 --readhmid


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Re: [Emc-users] CHNC Auction East Coast

2015-06-30 Thread Pete Matos
Dunno but I sure would love to have one LOL

Pete


On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 8:05 PM, dave dengv...@charter.net wrote:

 Maybe not. google shows weight at closer to 5225. Not so bad unless
 you are shipping coast to coast.

 D

 On 06/30/2015 02:39 PM, Stuart Stevenson wrote:
  Picture shows controller power on.
  It is my guess the machine is a running machine.
 
  On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 4:34 PM, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote:
 
  On Tuesday 30 June 2015 17:02:44 Mark Johnsen wrote:
  I couldn't figure out where this actually is located, buy New Jersey
  or somewhere around there:
  http://bid.acceleratedbuysell.com/cgi-bin/mnlist.cgi?perillo106/CP3
 
  Mark
  Well, heres someones chance to own the gold standard for a few cents on
  the dollar. $1800? It can't be working.
 
  I do not have the physical room, nor the foundation to support it as my
  guess is north of 10,000 lbs.
 
  I wonder what is wrong with it?  Controller tits up?
 
  Cheers, Gene Heskett
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[Emc-users] flashing with mesaflash?

2015-06-30 Thread Gene Heskett
I have installed these file from 5i25.zip, into /lib/firmware/hm2/5i25:
gene@GO704:/lib/firmware/hm2$ ls -l 5i25
total 348
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 340704 Sep  5  2014 5i25_prob_rfx2.bit
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root   9504 Jan 17  2014 5i25_prob_rfx2.xml

But which is it that I am supposed to write to the 5i25, using mesaflash?  
ISTR its the .xml file but its been a year or so since the last time I 
did it.

Some install docs in that 5i25.zip sure would be handy.

Is there another site that does explain this?

Cheers, Gene Heskett
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Re: [Emc-users] flashing with mesaflash?

2015-06-30 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 30 June 2015 21:48:22 Peter C. Wallace wrote:
 On Tue, 30 Jun 2015, Gene Heskett wrote:
  Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2015 21:32:48 -0400
  From: Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com
  Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
  emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
  To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
  emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [Emc-users] flashing with
  mesaflash?
 
  I have installed these file from 5i25.zip, into
  /lib/firmware/hm2/5i25: gene@GO704:/lib/firmware/hm2$ ls -l 5i25
  total 348
  -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 340704 Sep  5  2014 5i25_prob_rfx2.bit
  -rw-r--r-- 1 root root   9504 Jan 17  2014 5i25_prob_rfx2.xml
 
  But which is it that I am supposed to write to the 5i25, using
  mesaflash? ISTR its the .xml file but its been a year or so since
  the last time I did it.

 You write .bit files with mesaflash, for a 5I25 you want to make sure
 you write bitfiles that have a 5i25_x.bit file name also

In this case, it looks like prob_rfx2.bit was the correct file.  No 
errors on the --write, or --reload which according to the 
mesaflash --help screen, can sub for the power cycle.

And I fooled around with pncconf and finally got it to write a config 
directory.  But its too late to test it now.  Tomorrow if I get the 
spindle motor re-installed. Whoever put it together at the factory ought 
to be fired, the black motor lead that connects to the load side of a 
back panel fuse holder, was not soldered, only being held against the 
connector tab by the heat shrink!

Unforch, I am not going to have it carving parts by the 7th, when my 
youngest son is coming in for 2 or 3 days of target practice.  The 
photo-interrupters and limit/home switches are predicted to arrive on 
the 7th. By then I expect the faster breakout board will have arrived.

 The 5I25 manual has an example command line

Yes, for a configuration that is not of any great interest or use to me.

What I need next is a translator table that converts the module numbers I 
see in pncconf, to pin numbers on plug 2 of the board.  Humm, doesn't 
dmesg report that?  Yes, it did on the lathe, so that will suffice 
there.  And probably far less confusin because its as its seen at fire 
up LCNC time.  I don't think I'd want to consider the complexity of a 
table that covered all possible options, it might nudify the amazon 
forest.

  Some install docs in that 5i25.zip sure would be handy.

Specifically, where to put ALL the files in it.

Thanks Peter.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
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Re: [Emc-users] flashing with mesaflash?

2015-06-30 Thread Gene Heskett


On Tuesday 30 June 2015 21:50:57 Peter C. Wallace wrote:
 On Tue, 30 Jun 2015, Drew Rogge wrote:
  Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2015 18:38:43 -0700
  From: Drew Rogge d...@dasrogges.com
  Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
  emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
  To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
  emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] flashing
  with mesaflash?
 
  The bit file is what gets written to the board. Don't forget to
  power cycle your computer after installing. Not reboot, not restart,
  power cycle. The power cycle is necessary to write the code to the
  FPGA.
 
  Drew

 If you started with the 5I25 loaded with a fairly recent bitfile, you
 can also use mesaflash's --reload option to load the new bitfile into
 the FPGA instead of a power cycle

Yes, I did that an hour ago, over an ssh -Y session, looked like it 
worked as expected.

  On 6/30/15 6:32 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:
  I have installed these file from 5i25.zip, into
  /lib/firmware/hm2/5i25: gene@GO704:/lib/firmware/hm2$ ls -l 5i25
  total 348
  -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 340704 Sep  5  2014 5i25_prob_rfx2.bit
  -rw-r--r-- 1 root root   9504 Jan 17  2014 5i25_prob_rfx2.xml
 
  But which is it that I am supposed to write to the 5i25, using
  mesaflash? ISTR its the .xml file but its been a year or so since
  the last time I did it.
 
  Some install docs in that 5i25.zip sure would be handy.
 
  Is there another site that does explain this?
 
  Cheers, Gene Heskett
 
  
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Re: [Emc-users] flashing with mesaflash?

2015-06-30 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Tue, 30 Jun 2015, Gene Heskett wrote:

 Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2015 21:32:48 -0400
 From: Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com
 Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
 emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
 To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
 Subject: [Emc-users] flashing with mesaflash?
 
 I have installed these file from 5i25.zip, into /lib/firmware/hm2/5i25:
 gene@GO704:/lib/firmware/hm2$ ls -l 5i25
 total 348
 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 340704 Sep  5  2014 5i25_prob_rfx2.bit
 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root   9504 Jan 17  2014 5i25_prob_rfx2.xml

 But which is it that I am supposed to write to the 5i25, using mesaflash?
 ISTR its the .xml file but its been a year or so since the last time I
 did it.

You write .bit files with mesaflash, for a 5I25 you want to make sure you 
write bitfiles that have a 5i25_x.bit file name also

The 5I25 manual has an example command line


 Some install docs in that 5i25.zip sure would be handy.

 Is there another site that does explain this?

 Cheers, Gene Heskett
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Re: [Emc-users] CHNC Auction East Coast

2015-06-30 Thread Bruce Layne
That could be a free Hardinge lathe.  Buy it, keep the three phase DC 
power supply, motors and encoders and sell the rest of the controls to 
someone desperate to keep their old lathe running, or wanting spare 
controls as insurance to keep their old lathe running.  Replace the old 
controls with much better LinuxCNC controls.  Having seen what these old 
controls sell for, you might even make money after buying the lathe and 
LinuxCNC hardware!

I replaced some very similar General Numatics controls (a mish mash of 
Fanuc and Siemens) on a giant CNC router of the same era (two 15HP 
spindles, four air drills, and a pseudo 4th axis 7.5 HP radial arm saw 
on the gantry).  The controls were very primitive with little to no safe 
operating area shutdown or temperature monitoring on the power 
semiconductors, etc.  Good riddance.

I took a quick look online and saw some other good deals (but not this 
good) on nice old Hardinge lathes.

$1800 seems insanely low.  I paid $1200 for my small manual Clausing 
tool room lathe, and while it's in good shape where is counts, it looks 
ugly compared to this much more capable Hardinge CNC lathe with ten 
times the horsepower.

I hope it goes to a good home and makes someone very happy.


Bruce





On 06/30/2015 08:13 PM, Pete Matos wrote:
 Dunno but I sure would love to have one LOL

 Pete


 On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 8:05 PM, dave dengv...@charter.net wrote:

 Maybe not. google shows weight at closer to 5225. Not so bad unless
 you are shipping coast to coast.

 D

 On 06/30/2015 02:39 PM, Stuart Stevenson wrote:
 Picture shows controller power on.
 It is my guess the machine is a running machine.

 On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 4:34 PM, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote:

 On Tuesday 30 June 2015 17:02:44 Mark Johnsen wrote:
 I couldn't figure out where this actually is located, buy New Jersey
 or somewhere around there:
 http://bid.acceleratedbuysell.com/cgi-bin/mnlist.cgi?perillo106/CP3

 Mark
 Well, heres someones chance to own the gold standard for a few cents on
 the dollar. $1800? It can't be working.

 I do not have the physical room, nor the foundation to support it as my
 guess is north of 10,000 lbs.

 I wonder what is wrong with it?  Controller tits up?

 Cheers, Gene Heskett
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Re: [Emc-users] flashing with mesaflash?

2015-06-30 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Wed, 1 Jul 2015, Gene Heskett wrote:

 Apparently not, if no bitfile has been written, its an error.

 But now it does work, thanks.

 IO Connections for P3
 Pin#  I/O   Pri. funcSec. func   Chan  Pin funcPin
 Dir

 1  0   IOPort   None
 14  1   IOPort   PWM  0PWM (Out)
 2  2   IOPort   StepGen  0Step/Table1 (Out)
 15  3   IOPort   None
 3  4   IOPort   StepGen  0Dir/Table2  (Out)
 16  5   IOPort   PWM  0Dir (Out)
 4  6   IOPort   StepGen  1Step/Table1 (Out)
 17  7   IOPort   None
 5  8   IOPort   StepGen  1Dir/Table2  (Out)
 6  9   IOPort   StepGen  2Step/Table1 (Out)
 7 10   IOPort   StepGen  2Dir/Table2  (Out)
 8 11   IOPort   StepGen  3Step/Table1 (Out)
 9 12   IOPort   StepGen  3Dir/Table2  (Out)
 10 13   IOPort   None
 11 14   IOPort   QCount   0Quad-A  (In)
 12 15   IOPort   QCount   0Quad-B  (In)
 13 16   IOPort   QCount   0Quad-IDX(In)

 And that will let me fine tune the bob to send stuff to the correct
 motor.  Pin 1 it says is e-stop out in most setups.  How do I enable
 that to detect an oncard mal-event?

pin 1 is available as GPIO (input or output) for any purpose


 And is there a way to make it bi-di? I see that in some configs.


You can make bidirectional pins by setting the is_output and open_drain
attributes of the selected GPIO pin.

 Thanks Peter.

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Re: [Emc-users] flashing with mesaflash?

2015-06-30 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 01 July 2015 01:06:24 Peter C. Wallace wrote:
 On Wed, 1 Jul 2015, Gene Heskett wrote:
  Apparently not, if no bitfile has been written, its an error.
 
  But now it does work, thanks.
[...]
  motor.  Pin 1 it says is e-stop out in most setups.  How do I enable
  that to detect an oncard mal-event?

 pin 1 is available as GPIO (input or output) for any purpose

  And is there a way to make it bi-di? I see that in some configs.

 You can make bidirectional pins by setting the is_output and
 open_drain attributes of the selected GPIO pin.

Ahh, I've seen that in the docs, but the darned light never came on.

Thanks Peter.

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Re: [Emc-users] flashing with mesaflash?

2015-06-30 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 30 June 2015 23:48:00 Peter C. Wallace wrote:
[...]
  You write .bit files with mesaflash, for a 5I25 you want to make
  sure you write bitfiles that have a 5i25_x.bit file name also
 
  In this case, it looks like prob_rfx2.bit was the correct file.  No
  errors on the --write, or --reload which according to the
  mesaflash --help screen, can sub for the power cycle.
 
  And I fooled around with pncconf and finally got it to write a
  config directory.  But its too late to test it now.  Tomorrow if I
  get the spindle motor re-installed. Whoever put it together at the
  factory ought to be fired, the black motor lead that connects to the
  load side of a back panel fuse holder, was not soldered, only being
  held against the connector tab by the heat shrink!
 
  Unforch, I am not going to have it carving parts by the 7th, when my
  youngest son is coming in for 2 or 3 days of target practice.  The
  photo-interrupters and limit/home switches are predicted to arrive
  on the 7th. By then I expect the faster breakout board will have
  arrived.
 
  The 5I25 manual has an example command line
 
  Yes, for a configuration that is not of any great interest or use to
  me.
 
  What I need next is a translator table that converts the module
  numbers I see in pncconf, to pin numbers on plug 2 of the board. 
  Humm, doesn't dmesg report that?  Yes, it did on the lathe, so that
  will suffice there.  And probably far less confusin because its as
  its seen at fire up LCNC time.  I don't think I'd want to consider
  the complexity of a table that covered all possible options, it
  might nudify the amazon forest.
 
  Some install docs in that 5i25.zip sure would be handy.
 
  Specifically, where to put ALL the files in it.
 
  Thanks Peter.

 The bitfiles dont need to be installed anywhere, you just pick one
 thats appropriate for you application/daughtercard and write it.

 The .pin files are the referernce info for a particular configuration
 so for example prob_rfx2.pin shows the configuration modules and
 pinout

That should be helpful.

 Also mesaflash can display this information for installed hardware:

 sudo mesaflash --device 5i25 --readhmid

Apparently not, if no bitfile has been written, its an error.

But now it does work, thanks.

IO Connections for P3
Pin#  I/O   Pri. funcSec. func   Chan  Pin funcPin 
Dir

 1  0   IOPort   None   
14  1   IOPort   PWM  0PWM (Out)
 2  2   IOPort   StepGen  0Step/Table1 (Out)
15  3   IOPort   None   
 3  4   IOPort   StepGen  0Dir/Table2  (Out)
16  5   IOPort   PWM  0Dir (Out)
 4  6   IOPort   StepGen  1Step/Table1 (Out)
17  7   IOPort   None   
 5  8   IOPort   StepGen  1Dir/Table2  (Out)
 6  9   IOPort   StepGen  2Step/Table1 (Out)
 7 10   IOPort   StepGen  2Dir/Table2  (Out)
 8 11   IOPort   StepGen  3Step/Table1 (Out)
 9 12   IOPort   StepGen  3Dir/Table2  (Out)
10 13   IOPort   None   
11 14   IOPort   QCount   0Quad-A  (In)
12 15   IOPort   QCount   0Quad-B  (In)
13 16   IOPort   QCount   0Quad-IDX(In)

And that will let me fine tune the bob to send stuff to the correct 
motor.  Pin 1 it says is e-stop out in most setups.  How do I enable 
that to detect an oncard mal-event?

And is there a way to make it bi-di? I see that in some configs.

Thanks Peter.

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Re: [Emc-users] OT: lathe cut-off tool FS advice

2015-06-30 Thread Andrew
I believe G95 mode (feed per revolution) is handy for a lathe.
Particularly for a cut-off. You directly set the chip thickness and keep it
when rpm changes.

BTW 2ipm with 2000rpm corresponds to 1 thou per rev... not 10-20 thou?

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 I am learning to use a CNC lathe.  I like to learn from the mistake’s of
 others by repeating them myself ;-)  I am cutting medium carbon steel
 (medium because I don’t really know what it is - not stainless, not tool
 steel, turns/faces easily enough).   I have a narrow (0.088”) cutoff bar
 with a carbide insert.  I used a program that I have called GWizard to get
 feeds and speeds and on it’s conservative setting for carbide cutoff tool
 in medium carbon steel it recommended 2000rpm and 2ipm.  That was a
 disaster.  It started off cutting a very heavy chip (10-20 thou thick) got
 about 1/3 into my 0.5” dia piece and then pushed it’s way to destroying the
 insert and bending the opening on the tool that holds the insert.  What is
 the opposite of “just in time”?  Well, that is when I hit estop.  Luckily I
 have two ends on this cutoff tool so I have one more chance :-)

 I know I need to cut off as close to the spindle as possible.  I know that
 cutting fluid is good thing, though I don’t have flood so will just be
 spraying or dripping something on it.  But what would be good FS for doing
 this?   A “machinist” recommended 600rpm and 0.6ipm using his rule-of-thumb
 machining formula…?

 Also, I believe I can do CSS but don’t really know anything about that
 yet, was just trying to do basic things first but if css would be
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[Emc-users] OT: Anilam Crusader M Documentation

2015-06-30 Thread Rick Lair
Hello Guys,

I have seen random posts about converting Anilam controls over to Linuxcnc,

We just acquired a small vertical mill that has an Anilam Crusader M 
control on it, with zero documentation. The person we bought it off said 
everything worked, but had to get a few of the boards freshened up, and 
I now I have the control powered up, I  just don't know where to go from 
here to get the servos moving.

I was wondering if anyone had any literature on one of these controls, 
and if so, could I please take a look at it, to try to at least get it 
moving to see where I go from there, as to whether  I put Linuxcnc on 
it, or get rid of it.


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Re: [Emc-users] OT: lathe cut-off tool FS advice

2015-06-30 Thread Pete Matos
I do not have hardly any CNC lathe experience but I have been running
manual lathes for many many years. I must agree with Stuart about the
carbide insert parting off tools. I never had much luck with them. Broke
several of them and damaged the pocket holding the insert several times as
well.  A good blade HSS parting tool always worked best for me. I typically
spin pretty slow, flood it with lube and sort of peck it in until I get
thru. I look forward to the learning process of learning the CNC lathe
operations soon as my CNC lathe build is getting revved up now. Of course
the tool has to be perfectly perpendicular to the part and the center
height is also very important. Basic lathe ops really but I have much to
learn about CNC and CSS feeds and speeds on the CNC lathe ops. Good luck
man.

Pete


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 Gentlemen,
 My 2 cents (it is old experience)
 For my first 10 (1979-1989) years in a machine shop I ran mostly CNC
 lathes. Not exclusive but predominately lathes. Both operating and
 supervising.
 After that preface I will say I do not like carbide cut off tools. You can
 spend a LOT of money trying to cut off barstock with carbide.
 HSS cut off tools are too easy to resharpen and handle the slow surface
 speed of the center of the bar. You must go a slower speed but you can set
 it up and cut part after part after part when it is done right. Maybe today
 the carbide has improved but I have not seen the improvement.
 In some applications the carbide is fine ie (tubing - parts where the cut
 off is into a hole in the center of the bar).
 I have tried a lot of carbide cut off tools and did not like any for
 cutting solid barstock.
 thanks
 Stuart


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  Tom; on my larger manual lathes, HSS tooling, I'd expect a  chip load
 about
  1/10 of what you are doing, and a speed about 1/5 to 1/10 of what you
 were
  trying.
 
  Mind you, maybe I'm a chicken, and I don't have Carbide cutoff
  experience, so don't take the above as gospel.
 
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[Emc-users] OT: lathe cut-off tool FS advice

2015-06-30 Thread Tom Easterday
I am learning to use a CNC lathe.  I like to learn from the mistake’s of others 
by repeating them myself ;-)  I am cutting medium carbon steel (medium because 
I don’t really know what it is - not stainless, not tool steel, turns/faces 
easily enough).   I have a narrow (0.088”) cutoff bar with a carbide insert.  I 
used a program that I have called GWizard to get feeds and speeds and on it’s 
conservative setting for carbide cutoff tool in medium carbon steel it 
recommended 2000rpm and 2ipm.  That was a disaster.  It started off cutting a 
very heavy chip (10-20 thou thick) got about 1/3 into my 0.5” dia piece and 
then pushed it’s way to destroying the insert and bending the opening on the 
tool that holds the insert.  What is the opposite of “just in time”?  Well, 
that is when I hit estop.  Luckily I have two ends on this cutoff tool so I 
have one more chance :-)

I know I need to cut off as close to the spindle as possible.  I know that 
cutting fluid is good thing, though I don’t have flood so will just be spraying 
or dripping something on it.  But what would be good FS for doing this?   A 
“machinist” recommended 600rpm and 0.6ipm using his rule-of-thumb machining 
formula…?

Also, I believe I can do CSS but don’t really know anything about that yet, was 
just trying to do basic things first but if css would be better…Any advice 
would be welcome.

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Re: [Emc-users] OT: lathe cut-off tool FS advice

2015-06-30 Thread John Alexander Stewart
Tom; on my larger manual lathes, HSS tooling, I'd expect a  chip load about
1/10 of what you are doing, and a speed about 1/5 to 1/10 of what you were
trying.

Mind you, maybe I'm a chicken, and I don't have Carbide cutoff
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Re: [Emc-users] OT: lathe cut-off tool FS advice

2015-06-30 Thread Stuart Stevenson
Gentlemen,
My 2 cents (it is old experience)
For my first 10 (1979-1989) years in a machine shop I ran mostly CNC
lathes. Not exclusive but predominately lathes. Both operating and
supervising.
After that preface I will say I do not like carbide cut off tools. You can
spend a LOT of money trying to cut off barstock with carbide.
HSS cut off tools are too easy to resharpen and handle the slow surface
speed of the center of the bar. You must go a slower speed but you can set
it up and cut part after part after part when it is done right. Maybe today
the carbide has improved but I have not seen the improvement.
In some applications the carbide is fine ie (tubing - parts where the cut
off is into a hole in the center of the bar).
I have tried a lot of carbide cut off tools and did not like any for
cutting solid barstock.
thanks
Stuart


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 Tom; on my larger manual lathes, HSS tooling, I'd expect a  chip load about
 1/10 of what you are doing, and a speed about 1/5 to 1/10 of what you were
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Re: [Emc-users] OT: lathe cut-off tool FS advice

2015-06-30 Thread Tom Easterday
Wow, thanks to all for the advice, I have lots to absorb!  I am nearing 
overwhelming support of HSS vs carbide though.  Will have to get some HSS 
blades for this holder and do some experiments.  One question on this post:

 On Jun 30, 2015, at 12:45 PM, Andy Pugh bodge...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 With a HSS blade I would use 30 m/min and 0.03mm / Rev in CSS and FPR. That 
 will be rather conservative for carbide and a lathe not made of rubber. 

30m/min is the spindle rotation not feed, yes?  And 0.03mm/Rev is the 
“chipload” or is that SFM?  Sorry, mostly deal with imperial.

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Re: [Emc-users] OT: lathe cut-off tool FS advice

2015-06-30 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 30 June 2015 12:45:16 Andy Pugh wrote:
  On 30 Jun 2015, at 16:53, Tom Easterday tom-...@bgp.nu wrote:
 
  A gmachinisth recommended 600rpm and 0.6ipm using his
  rule-of-thumb machining formulac?

 With a HSS blade I would use 30 m/min and 0.03mm / Rev in CSS and FPR.
 That will be rather conservative for carbide and a lathe not made of
 rubber.

You just eliminated my 7x12.  But you Knew that. ;-)

I got to get a bigger lathe.

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Re: [Emc-users] OT: lathe cut-off tool FS advice

2015-06-30 Thread Marcus Bowman

On 30 Jun 2015, at 18:01, Dave Caroline wrote:

 I used to drive a capstan for long periods, getting the blade right
 was key to less cleanup work, taper the end but the right amount for
 your material, part drops off no pip, then over travel to clean the
 bar pip. That was in my HSS days.
 
 I have now crossed over to a sandvick insert with is pretty damned
 good even on on a manual lathe
 http://www.greenwood-tools.co.uk/shopscr23.html
 http://www.sandvik.coromant.com/en-gb/products/t-max_q-cut/Pages/default.aspx
 
That one gets my vote, for medium-to-large stock. 600rpm would be comfortably 
within its range for work up to about 40mm. It's my standard parting off tool. 
I switched from HSS some years ago, and have not regretted it. I believe HSS 
would provide a keener edge, but the carbide tool forces the chip inwards as it 
curls upwards, so it clears it out of the slot very effectively.

I use much smaller and thinner carbide blades for smaller diameters and softer 
materials:
the Mini-Thin Grooving and Cut-Off inserts from MSC Industrial. The tips are 
fragile and they must be mounted exactly at right angles to the axis, but they 
work a treat in thicknesses from 0.5mm to 2mm. I mostly use 1mm with a straight 
front to the tip.

Marcus



 the inserts come in left right and flat forms, also reasonable for
 turning in tight places
 
 I also hand grind HSS for tiny clock/watch parts, getting the edge on
 centre is critical for good work
 
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Re: [Emc-users] OT: lathe cut-off tool FS advice

2015-06-30 Thread Gene Heskett


On Tuesday 30 June 2015 12:33:29 Chris Radek wrote:
 On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 10:53:58AM -0400, Tom Easterday wrote:
  Also, I believe I can do CSS but don???t really know anything
  about that yet

 Using CSS+FPR while parting bar stock makes all the difference in
 the world.

 Parting at a fixed RPM is terrible.  Your choices are way too fast
 at the beginning or way too slow at the end, or most likely, BOTH.
 If someone tells you what fixed RPM and IPM to use, thank them
 politely and then ignore their advice.

 I have always used HSS parting tools and I shoot for a dead flat
 grind on the end so the chip comes straight out.  (Some grind it at
 an angle to try to leave the pip on the bar and not the part - this
 has never really worked for me.)

Me too.

 Make sure it's exactly on center height.

I've usually used the time honored feeler blade method for vertical 
centering, with what is only so-so results.  Plus the blades I have, 
tapered as usual, dull on the sides quicker than the tip.  This requires 
several trips to the grinder per 1/4 of radius cut, so I wrote a wobble 
program to cut a wider groove, preventing the blade from being pinched 
in the groove.

Cutting off, particularly for larger radii workpieces, I need help with, 
and have even finished the job by using the grove as a guide for a 
hacksaw, usually in reverse and using it as a pullsaw.  Purty it ain't 
but is generally acceptable since that portion will be bored away before 
a 209 nipple for one of my BP rifles is finished.

And I am still looking for a device to sharpen tools that I first saw in 
1959 while our machinist was carving the bronze camera housings for the 
2 tv cameras we put on the Trieste before it made that dive into the 
mohole in Feb 1960.  A brass disk IRC, about 3 in diameter, spun by a 
phono motor at perhaps 200 rpms. It had two posts stuck up about 3 or 
so, one just cleared the edge of the disk, the other perhaps 3/4 on 
out.  The guy had a tool holder that was a piece of swiss cheese, holes 
drilled thru it at every which angle.  He could put a drop of diamond 
dust oil on the disk about every other day, drop the holder on the post 
 swing it back and forth over the face of the spinning disk at the 
various angles he needed, walk back over to the big Clausing and bronze 
peeled off like it was warm butter using plain HSS steel tooling.

Looked to be handier than good toilet paper in the outhouse, but I have 
never seen another sharpener like it.

Do we have a tool that can do a better job of centering the height than 
gently pinching a feeler blade and eyeballing it vertically?

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Re: [Emc-users] OT: lathe cut-off tool FS advice

2015-06-30 Thread Andy Pugh


 On 30 Jun 2015, at 16:53, Tom Easterday tom-...@bgp.nu wrote:
 
 A “machinist” recommended 600rpm and 0.6ipm using his rule-of-thumb machining 
 formula…?

With a HSS blade I would use 30 m/min and 0.03mm / Rev in CSS and FPR. That 
will be rather conservative for carbide and a lathe not made of rubber. 
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Re: [Emc-users] OT: lathe cut-off tool FS advice

2015-06-30 Thread Dave Caroline
I used to drive a capstan for long periods, getting the blade right
was key to less cleanup work, taper the end but the right amount for
your material, part drops off no pip, then over travel to clean the
bar pip. That was in my HSS days.

I have now crossed over to a sandvick insert with is pretty damned
good even on on a manual lathe
http://www.greenwood-tools.co.uk/shopscr23.html
http://www.sandvik.coromant.com/en-gb/products/t-max_q-cut/Pages/default.aspx

the inserts come in left right and flat forms, also reasonable for
turning in tight places

I also hand grind HSS for tiny clock/watch parts, getting the edge on
centre is critical for good work

Dave Caroline

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Re: [Emc-users] OT: Anilam Crusader M Documentation

2015-06-30 Thread Gene Heskett


On Tuesday 30 June 2015 12:49:48 Mark Johnsen wrote:
 Rick,

 I have what you need.  I just uploaded a zip file to my website and
 the following links should download the files if you paste them in
 browser. Let me know if they don't work, they did for me.

 http://www.ijohnsen.com/CrusaderM_Docs_All.zip
 http://www.ijohnsen.com/Supermax_YCM-16VS_Manual.pdf

 In the zip file above, the files of interest are:
 Cursader_M_3X_Programming.pdf (programming manual)
 Aux Codes 001.pdf  (I apparently thought the aux code docs were
 important at one point)
 AUX CODES.pdf
 DNC 001.pdf.  (for drip feeding if you want to do that).

 I do have a paper copy of the programming manual that is many many
 pages. I obviously don't need it anymore, so if you wanted to pay for
 shipping, I could send it out.

 Further, just this weekend I was taking pictures of all the circuit
 boards and control box and plan to put those on ebay when I get the
 chance.

 The zip file also has schematics and west amp servo info.

 The reason for my retrofit was that the monitor became intermittent
 and didn't work well at all.  I wasn't sure if it was the monitor or
 something else (like noisy power from my 3ph converter).  After
 contacting a company in Wisconsin (I think outside of Janesville),
 they thought the problem was a video chip and they wanted $500 to fix
 it and re-solder something?? After looking at the boards this past
 weekend, I was thinking it might not have been that hard, however I
 don't know what I don't know...

It probably isn't, the usual problem with monitiors is high ESR in the 
power supply and related capacitors. You need an ESR measuring meter to 
verify, about a $200 bill for the one I am familiar with, called a 
Capacitor Wizard by its maker. $20-$40 for replacement caps, and the 
meter, is still cheaper than $500 to some guy who probably never saw a 
CET test.  I am one of those critters.

 One question that I have to ask you to check if you get it running, is
 can you check to see what kind of 'dead-reckoning' you get between
 linear scale encoder counts?  To try to describe dead-reckoning (PCW
 Term) it is the control system hunting between two encoder 'marks' on
 the linear scales when an axis is at rest.  We see it because the
 linear scales are relatively coarse at 0.01mm spacing.  I recall
 having a little bit of an issue w/ thnat w/ the Crusader M, but more
 of an issue w/ LinuxCNC.  It's probably my tuning and I did take Chris
 Radek's advice and go more liberally w/ the gain on the west amp drive
 and now I experience times of little dead-reckoning and times of a lot
 of dead-reckoning.  A solution is a fine resolution rotary encoder on
 the leadscrew...

 Good luck,
 Mark

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  Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2015 10:49:17 -0400
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  Subject: [Emc-users] OT: Anilam Crusader M Documentation
  To: Emc Users emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
  Message-ID: 5592ac6d.9010...@superiorroll.com
  Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
 
  Hello Guys,
 
  I have seen random posts about converting Anilam controls over to
  Linuxcnc,
 
  We just acquired a small vertical mill that has an Anilam Crusader M
  control on it, with zero documentation. The person we bought it off
  said everything worked, but had to get a few of the boards freshened
  up, and I now I have the control powered up, I  just don't know
  where to go from here to get the servos moving.
 
  I was wondering if anyone had any literature on one of these
  controls, and if so, could I please take a look at it, to try to at
  least get it moving to see where I go from there, as to whether  I
  put Linuxcnc on it, or get rid of it.
 
 
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Re: [Emc-users] OT: lathe cut-off tool FS advice

2015-06-30 Thread Chris Radek
On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 02:01:28PM -0400, Tom Easterday wrote:
 30m/min is the spindle rotation not feed, yes?  And 0.03mm/Rev is
 the ???chipload??? or is that SFM?  Sorry, mostly deal with
 imperial.


30m/min is the surface speed (100 sfm)
.03/rev is the feed per rev (0.001 inch)

nice easy cut in steel.

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Re: [Emc-users] OT: lathe cut-off tool FS advice

2015-06-30 Thread Gene Heskett


On Tuesday 30 June 2015 10:53:58 Tom Easterday wrote:
 I am learning to use a CNC lathe.  I like to learn from the mistake’s
 of others by repeating them myself ;-)

Chuckle, BTDT, fun but hard on tooling.

 I am cutting medium carbon 
 steel (medium because I don’t really know what it is - not stainless,
 not tool steel, turns/faces easily enough).   I have a narrow (0.088”)
 cutoff bar with a carbide insert.  I used a program that I have called
 GWizard to get feeds and speeds and on it’s conservative setting for
 carbide cutoff tool in medium carbon steel it recommended 2000rpm and
 2ipm.  That was a disaster.  It started off cutting a very heavy chip
 (10-20 thou thick) got about 1/3 into my 0.5” dia piece and then
 pushed it’s way to destroying the insert and bending the opening on
 the tool that holds the insert.  What is the opposite of “just in
 time”?  Well, that is when I hit estop.  Luckily I have two ends on
 this cutoff tool so I have one more chance :-)

 I know I need to cut off as close to the spindle as possible.  I know
 that cutting fluid is good thing, though I don’t have flood so will
 just be spraying or dripping something on it.  But what would be good
 FS for doing this?   A “machinist” recommended 600rpm and 0.6ipm
 using his rule-of-thumb machining formula…?

 Also, I believe I can do CSS but don’t really know anything about that
 yet, was just trying to do basic things first but if css would be
 better…Any advice would be welcome.

 -Tom

CSS is Constant Surface Speed. But you knew that Tom. A very nice idea 
but I find it is not overly useful for driving a cutoff blade as it runs 
my spindle out of rpms long before the job is done.  Drive redesign is 
in the planning stage.  And, my cutoff blade is steel, tapered profile. 
Because the side/corners dull with the amount of feed I can use with a 
puny powered spindle, I wrote a routine that cuts a couple thoiu, backs 
off, move half the blade sideways, then cuts about 4 thou, wobbling back 
and forth as it advances. 

This cuts me a slot wide enough that the blade doesn't bind in the slot 
even though I can see it bending sideways, but its a slow process if the 
work is over .5 in diameter.  And I still have to stop and sharpen the 
blade several times.  But it works well even in non-hardened A2.

What I need to learn next, is how to properly heat treat/harden the A2 
stuff I make. ;)

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[Emc-users] OT: Anilam Crusader M Documentation

2015-06-30 Thread Mark Johnsen
Rick,

I have what you need.  I just uploaded a zip file to my website and the
following links should download the files if you paste them in browser.
Let me know if they don't work, they did for me.

http://www.ijohnsen.com/CrusaderM_Docs_All.zip
http://www.ijohnsen.com/Supermax_YCM-16VS_Manual.pdf

In the zip file above, the files of interest are:
Cursader_M_3X_Programming.pdf (programming manual)
Aux Codes 001.pdf  (I apparently thought the aux code docs were important
at one point)
AUX CODES.pdf
DNC 001.pdf.  (for drip feeding if you want to do that).

I do have a paper copy of the programming manual that is many many pages.
I obviously don't need it anymore, so if you wanted to pay for shipping, I
could send it out.

Further, just this weekend I was taking pictures of all the circuit boards
and control box and plan to put those on ebay when I get the chance.

The zip file also has schematics and west amp servo info.

The reason for my retrofit was that the monitor became intermittent and
didn't work well at all.  I wasn't sure if it was the monitor or something
else (like noisy power from my 3ph converter).  After contacting a company
in Wisconsin (I think outside of Janesville), they thought the problem was
a video chip and they wanted $500 to fix it and re-solder something??
After looking at the boards this past weekend, I was thinking it might not
have been that hard, however I don't know what I don't know...

One question that I have to ask you to check if you get it running, is can
you check to see what kind of 'dead-reckoning' you get between linear scale
encoder counts?  To try to describe dead-reckoning (PCW Term) it is the
control system hunting between two encoder 'marks' on the linear scales
when an axis is at rest.  We see it because the linear scales are
relatively coarse at 0.01mm spacing.  I recall having a little bit of an
issue w/ thnat w/ the Crusader M, but more of an issue w/ LinuxCNC.  It's
probably my tuning and I did take Chris Radek's advice and go more
liberally w/ the gain on the west amp drive and now I experience times of
little dead-reckoning and times of a lot of dead-reckoning.  A solution is
a fine resolution rotary encoder on the leadscrew...

Good luck,
Mark






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 Message: 2
 Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2015 10:49:17 -0400
 From: Rick Lair r...@superiorroll.com
 Subject: [Emc-users] OT: Anilam Crusader M Documentation
 To: Emc Users emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
 Message-ID: 5592ac6d.9010...@superiorroll.com
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed

 Hello Guys,

 I have seen random posts about converting Anilam controls over to Linuxcnc,

 We just acquired a small vertical mill that has an Anilam Crusader M
 control on it, with zero documentation. The person we bought it off said
 everything worked, but had to get a few of the boards freshened up, and
 I now I have the control powered up, I  just don't know where to go from
 here to get the servos moving.

 I was wondering if anyone had any literature on one of these controls,
 and if so, could I please take a look at it, to try to at least get it
 moving to see where I go from there, as to whether  I put Linuxcnc on
 it, or get rid of it.


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 Thanks


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 FAX: 734-279-1166
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Re: [Emc-users] OT: lathe cut-off tool FS advice

2015-06-30 Thread Tom Easterday

 On Jun 30, 2015, at 11:38 AM, Andrew pkm...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I believe G95 mode (feed per revolution) is handy for a lathe.
 Particularly for a cut-off. You directly set the chip thickness and keep it
 when rpm changes.

Perhaps you mean G33 Synchronized Spindle Motion?  I don’t see a “feed per 
revolution” specifically in the GCode reference 
(http://linuxcnc.org/docs/html/gcode/gcode.html#sec:G92 
http://linuxcnc.org/docs/html/gcode/gcode.html#sec:G92)…

 
 BTW 2ipm with 2000rpm corresponds to 1 thou per rev... not 10-20 thou?

Yes, I tried today to measure the chip that came off (all curvy so had to 
flatten with pliers).  I was apparently greatly exaggerating the thickness, I 
measure around .0035 to .0045 so bigger than the calculation said it would be 
but not as big as I had in my head (perhaps it was the stress of the moment ;-) 
 I did check my feed to make sure the machine is moving at the correct speed 
and that is fine.

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Re: [Emc-users] OT: lathe cut-off tool FS advice

2015-06-30 Thread Chris Radek
On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 10:53:58AM -0400, Tom Easterday wrote:
 
 Also, I believe I can do CSS but don???t really know anything
 about that yet

Using CSS+FPR while parting bar stock makes all the difference in
the world.

Parting at a fixed RPM is terrible.  Your choices are way too fast
at the beginning or way too slow at the end, or most likely, BOTH.
If someone tells you what fixed RPM and IPM to use, thank them
politely and then ignore their advice.

I have always used HSS parting tools and I shoot for a dead flat
grind on the end so the chip comes straight out.  (Some grind it at
an angle to try to leave the pip on the bar and not the part - this
has never really worked for me.)  

Make sure it's exactly on center height.

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Re: [Emc-users] OT: lathe cut-off tool FS advice

2015-06-30 Thread Andy Pugh


 On 30 Jun 2015, at 20:24, Tom Easterday tom-...@bgp.nu wrote:
 
 Perhaps you mean G33 Synchronized Spindle Motion?  I don’t see a “feed per 
 revolution” specifically in the GCode reference

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[Emc-users] CHNC Auction East Coast

2015-06-30 Thread Mark Johnsen
I couldn't figure out where this actually is located, buy New Jersey or
somewhere around there:
http://bid.acceleratedbuysell.com/cgi-bin/mnlist.cgi?perillo106/CP3

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Re: [Emc-users] CHNC Auction East Coast

2015-06-30 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 30 June 2015 17:02:44 Mark Johnsen wrote:
 I couldn't figure out where this actually is located, buy New Jersey
 or somewhere around there:
 http://bid.acceleratedbuysell.com/cgi-bin/mnlist.cgi?perillo106/CP3

 Mark

Well, heres someones chance to own the gold standard for a few cents on 
the dollar. $1800? It can't be working.

I do not have the physical room, nor the foundation to support it as my 
guess is north of 10,000 lbs.

I wonder what is wrong with it?  Controller tits up?

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Re: [Emc-users] OT: Anilam Crusader M Documentation

2015-06-30 Thread Gregg Eshelman
On 6/30/2015 11:19 AM, Gene Heskett wrote:


 On Tuesday 30 June 2015 12:49:48 Mark Johnsen wrote:
 Rick,

 The reason for my retrofit was that the monitor became intermittent
 and didn't work well at all.  I wasn't sure if it was the monitor or
 something else (like noisy power from my 3ph converter).  After
 contacting a company in Wisconsin (I think outside of Janesville),
 they thought the problem was a video chip and they wanted $500 to fix
 it and re-solder something?? After looking at the boards this past
 weekend, I was thinking it might not have been that hard, however I
 don't know what I don't know...

 It probably isn't, the usual problem with monitiors is high ESR in the
 power supply and related capacitors. You need an ESR measuring meter to
 verify, about a $200 bill for the one I am familiar with, called a
 Capacitor Wizard by its maker. $20-$40 for replacement caps, and the
 meter, is still cheaper than $500 to some guy who probably never saw a
 CET test.  I am one of those critters.

On my mill it was because the monitor literally exploded. The end of the 
CRT neck was blown off and there were burned and blown up parts on its 
circuit board.

So I got a mill for a decent price which became pretty close to free 
after selling off all the old electrics and all the un-needed manual 
parts in the head.


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Re: [Emc-users] More progress.

2015-06-30 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 30 June 2015 17:12:33 Gene Heskett wrote:
 In removal, lube and reassemble of the quill in the head, I discovered
 that lcd display's controls are all alternate action, in addition too
 very well debounced.  Nice, but the manual of course doesn't meantion
 it loud enough to register.

 However, I had a stack of brass encoder wheels left from the lathe
 project, and laid one on them on top of the OEM 16 cycle wheel that
 drives the rpm display, although none too accurately as it takes
 several seconds to show a stable display, and its using tricks I used
 in some transmitter software to get the actual 4 digit number to
 display. Sucks, and I'm not too sure I care if it goes away as long as
 LCNC can display it.  Any way, its OD is perfect +-10 thou, and the
 mounting holes for the OEM disk, only 2 of them, were an accidentally
 a perfect enough for the girls I go with fit, but I had to take it to
 the little mill and expand the center hole somewhat into the bolt
 circle diameter of the brass version.  So it bolts up but sits low, so
 I need to find some washers for about 1.75mm bolts that are somewhat
 precisely made as it will take about 3 of them under it to jack the
 disk up and actually work with the existing slot interrupter.  Then
 all I have to do is find 3 that match that interrupter, hopefully with
 Schmidt outputs active both ways.  And make a new board for an A/B/X
 encoder.  Outside pair follow the edge slots, the center one should
 sit just high enough to catch the index slot, whose circle diameter is
 about .15 smaller.  Just inside the slots IOW. I did not expect to be
 so lucky on the wheel.

 Now if I could just figure out WTF my sugar is doing.  At 3:30 am,
 nothing to eat since ab out 10pm, 138, slept in, at 11 AM 143, and now
 at 5pm, 154.  And all I have had is black coffee since nominally
 midnight last night. I wonder when I'll run out...

 I'll go see if I can find something on fleabay.

Did, but OC outputs, 10 with a 3m slot for $18 shipped. They may take a 
schotkey gate for buffer just to get the active outputs  gobble up the 
long cable to LCNC noise.  Fun  games making one of these in miniature.  
With a single bolt mount off the side I can fine tune the quadrature a 
heck of a lot easier.

 Thanks.

 Cheers, Gene Heskett

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Re: [Emc-users] OT: Anilam Crusader M Documentation

2015-06-30 Thread Gregg Eshelman
On 6/30/2015 8:49 AM, Rick Lair wrote:
 Hello Guys,

 I have seen random posts about converting Anilam controls over to Linuxcnc,

 We just acquired a small vertical mill that has an Anilam Crusader M
 control on it, with zero documentation. The person we bought it off said
 everything worked, but had to get a few of the boards freshened up, and
 I now I have the control powered up, I  just don't know where to go from
 here to get the servos moving.

 I was wondering if anyone had any literature on one of these controls,
 and if so, could I please take a look at it, to try to at least get it
 moving to see where I go from there, as to whether  I put Linuxcnc on
 it, or get rid of it.

When they're working, they work. There's a few videos on youtube of 
mills with the Crusader M system. They appear to be pretty slow. Another 
issue is high pitched noises if the driver boards aren't adjusted just 
right.

When they don't work, they can be very expensive to put back to 
original. Surprisingly, the two driver boards I had were the hardest 
parts to sell on eBay - despite a price well below any other on eBay or 
anywhere else online.

You can connect a PC to the RS232 port to 'drip feed' G-code to it in 
order to work around the small memory or if the micro tape drive is bad.

Some have bypassed or removed the Anilam computer and connected an 
upgraded system to the original driver boards.

The control panel in the monitor box connects via RS232C so it could be 
made to work as input for a PC control.

Run it off a Mini-ITX or Beagle Bone Black and there will be plenty of 
room in the huge box for other things. Perhaps a mini fridge...


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[Emc-users] More progress.

2015-06-30 Thread Gene Heskett
In removal, lube and reassemble of the quill in the head, I discovered 
that lcd display's controls are all alternate action, in addition too 
very well debounced.  Nice, but the manual of course doesn't meantion it 
loud enough to register.

However, I had a stack of brass encoder wheels left from the lathe 
project, and laid one on them on top of the OEM 16 cycle wheel that 
drives the rpm display, although none too accurately as it takes several 
seconds to show a stable display, and its using tricks I used in some 
transmitter software to get the actual 4 digit number to display.  
Sucks, and I'm not too sure I care if it goes away as long as LCNC can 
display it.  Any way, its OD is perfect +-10 thou, and the mounting 
holes for the OEM disk, only 2 of them, were an accidentally a perfect 
enough for the girls I go with fit, but I had to take it to the little 
mill and expand the center hole somewhat into the bolt circle diameter 
of the brass version.  So it bolts up but sits low, so I need to find 
some washers for about 1.75mm bolts that are somewhat precisely made as 
it will take about 3 of them under it to jack the disk up and actually 
work with the existing slot interrupter.  Then all I have to do is find 
3 that match that interrupter, hopefully with Schmidt outputs active 
both ways.  And make a new board for an A/B/X encoder.  Outside pair 
follow the edge slots, the center one should sit just high enough to 
catch the index slot, whose circle diameter is about .15 smaller.  Just 
inside the slots IOW. I did not expect to be so lucky on the wheel.

Now if I could just figure out WTF my sugar is doing.  At 3:30 am, 
nothing to eat since ab out 10pm, 138, slept in, at 11 AM 143, and now 
at 5pm, 154.  And all I have had is black coffee since nominally 
midnight last night. I wonder when I'll run out...

I'll go see if I can find something on fleabay.

Thanks.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
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Re: [Emc-users] CHNC Auction East Coast

2015-06-30 Thread Stuart Stevenson
Picture shows controller power on.
It is my guess the machine is a running machine.

On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 4:34 PM, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote:

 On Tuesday 30 June 2015 17:02:44 Mark Johnsen wrote:
  I couldn't figure out where this actually is located, buy New Jersey
  or somewhere around there:
  http://bid.acceleratedbuysell.com/cgi-bin/mnlist.cgi?perillo106/CP3
 
  Mark

 Well, heres someones chance to own the gold standard for a few cents on
 the dollar. $1800? It can't be working.

 I do not have the physical room, nor the foundation to support it as my
 guess is north of 10,000 lbs.

 I wonder what is wrong with it?  Controller tits up?

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Re: [Emc-users] CHNC Auction East Coast

2015-06-30 Thread Gary Corlew
It says: 
All “MS” Lots are located in Paterson, NJ
All “GP” Lots are located in Philadelphia, PA
All “FM” Lots are located in Millington, NJ
All “HM” Lots are located in Fairfield, NJ
All “JS” Lots are located in Plattsburgh, NY
All “CP” Lots are located in Linwood, PA
All “NS” Lots are located in Palmetto, GA


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 I couldn't figure out where this actually is located, buy New Jersey or
 somewhere around there:
 http://bid.acceleratedbuysell.com/cgi-bin/mnlist.cgi?perillo106/CP3
 
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