Re: [Emc-users] Need a power signal independent of linuxcnc.

2019-12-10 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 11 December 2019 01:20:49 Peter C. Wallace wrote: > On Wed, 11 Dec 2019, Gene Heskett wrote: > > Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2019 00:57:22 -0500 > > From: Gene Heskett > > Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > > > > To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > > Subject: Re:

Re: [Emc-users] Need a power signal independent of linuxcnc.

2019-12-10 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Wed, 11 Dec 2019, Gene Heskett wrote: Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2019 00:57:22 -0500 From: Gene Heskett Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Need a power signal independent of linuxcnc. On Tuesday 10 December 2019 16:54:51

Re: [Emc-users] Need a power signal independent of linuxcnc.

2019-12-10 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 10 December 2019 16:54:51 Todd Zuercher wrote: > Gene says that he can't start Linuxcnc after the error occurs. Is > there a possibility that there could be some kind of a config issue > preventing Linuxcnc from properly initializing the cards on start up? > To head that off at the

Re: [Emc-users] Need a power signal independent of linuxcnc.

2019-12-10 Thread Todd Zuercher
Gene says that he can't start Linuxcnc after the error occurs. Is there a possibility that there could be some kind of a config issue preventing Linuxcnc from properly initializing the cards on start up? Todd Zuercher P. Graham Dunn Inc. 630 Henry Street  Dalton, Ohio 44618 Phone: 

Re: [Emc-users] Next probably silly Q

2019-12-10 Thread Gregg Eshelman via Emc-users
4 wire computer fans work fine on a 3 wire header. They just run at a fixed rate. Some may support variable speed via PWM-ing the power. On Tuesday, December 10, 2019, 2:40:59 PM MST, Chris Albertson wrote: In the 3-wire fan, the tach is not PWM.  It is a two-pulse per revelation TTL

Re: [Emc-users] Need a power signal independent of linuxcnc.

2019-12-10 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 10 December 2019 17:08:15 Andy Pugh wrote: > On 10 Dec 2019, at 20:03, Gene Heskett wrote: > >> 0.run on and off > > > > That would have to be w/o lcnc running since it won't run now > > The pins only exist with LinuxCNC running. > It should (and does) restart smart serial without

Re: [Emc-users] Need a power signal independent of linuxcnc.

2019-12-10 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 10 December 2019 16:27:50 Peter C. Wallace wrote: > I did a quick test to see if I could confuse a 7I76 by sending it > garbage/interrupted transmissions (cycling the FPGA side power while > doing high speed comms. I did this 500 times without the 7i76 I/O > processor ever requiring a

Re: [Emc-users] Next probably silly Q

2019-12-10 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 10 December 2019 14:32:06 Chris Albertson wrote: > With a 3-wire fan there are two power wires and the third is a > tachometer. Fan speed is controlled by varying the volts (or duty > cycle) on the power wires. > > With a 4-wire fan all thee above wires do the same thing but wire #4 >

Re: [Emc-users] Need a power signal independent of linuxcnc.

2019-12-10 Thread Andy Pugh
On 10 Dec 2019, at 20:03, Gene Heskett wrote: >> 0.run on and off >> > > That would have to be w/o lcnc running since it won't run now The pins only exist with LinuxCNC running. It should (and does) restart smart serial without even having to reboot linuxcnc.

Re: [Emc-users] Next probably silly Q

2019-12-10 Thread Chris Albertson
In the 3-wire fan, the tach is not PWM. It is a two-pulse per revelation TTL level signal.I actually build a fan controller once using a "dead bug" 50 cent, 8-pin AVR microcontroller, and an external transistor switch. So I had to look into this. I think the real reason for the 4th wire is

Re: [Emc-users] Need a power signal independent of linuxcnc.

2019-12-10 Thread Peter C. Wallace
I did a quick test to see if I could confuse a 7I76 by sending it garbage/interrupted transmissions (cycling the FPGA side power while doing high speed comms. I did this 500 times without the 7i76 I/O processor ever requiring a power cycle to recover. I still think this is some other issue

[Emc-users] pcb-rnd, save .pcb file as lihata fail to load lihata, library pile up, plated slot will try manufacture

2019-12-10 Thread N
I discovered starting with a .pcb file and saving it as a lihata file then loading it did not work. During loading of lihata file originally saved from there was a few long lasting dialogs with among them "clip polygon" or something similar and eventually after quite many secondes I gave up.

Re: [Emc-users] Next probably silly Q

2019-12-10 Thread N
The PWM tachometer signal most probably have really good noise immunity as timing is robust against noise. Might also have really good accuracy if derived from a clock with low jitter and slow enough clock drift. However very unlikely to make any noticeable difference on a fan. Once asked for

Re: [Emc-users] Next probably silly Q

2019-12-10 Thread Chris Albertson
With a 3-wire fan there are two power wires and the third is a tachometer. Fan speed is controlled by varying the volts (or duty cycle) on the power wires. With a 4-wire fan all thee above wires do the same thing but wire #4 is a speed control signal that is PWM.This saves the need to PWM

Re: [Emc-users] Need a power signal independent of linuxcnc.

2019-12-10 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 10 December 2019 13:58:30 Peter C. Wallace wrote: > On Tue, 10 Dec 2019, Gene Heskett wrote: > > Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2019 13:52:47 -0500 > > From: Gene Heskett > > Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > > > > To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > > Subject: Re: [Emc-users]

Re: [Emc-users] Need a power signal independent of linuxcnc.

2019-12-10 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 10 December 2019 12:19:25 Andy Pugh wrote: > > On 10 Dec 2019, at 04:45, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > That, or > > some way to tickle the 7i76D to reset it before I start LinuxCNC the > > second time because hal can't find spinout > > Make a GUI button to toggle sserial-port.0.run on

Re: [Emc-users] Need a power signal independent of linuxcnc.

2019-12-10 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Tue, 10 Dec 2019, Gene Heskett wrote: Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2019 13:52:47 -0500 From: Gene Heskett Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Need a power signal independent of linuxcnc. On Tuesday 10 December 2019 11:52:06

Re: [Emc-users] Need a power signal independent of linuxcnc.

2019-12-10 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 10 December 2019 11:52:06 Peter C. Wallace wrote: > On Tue, 10 Dec 2019, Gene Heskett wrote: > > Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2019 11:18:11 -0500 > > From: Gene Heskett > > Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > > > > To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > > Subject: Re: [Emc-users]

Re: [Emc-users] Need a power signal independent of linuxcnc.

2019-12-10 Thread Andy Pugh
> On 10 Dec 2019, at 04:45, Gene Heskett wrote: > > That, or > some way to tickle the 7i76D to reset it before I start LinuxCNC the > second time because hal can't find spinout Make a GUI button to toggle sserial-port.0.run on and off ___

Re: [Emc-users] Need a power signal independent of linuxcnc.

2019-12-10 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Tue, 10 Dec 2019, Gene Heskett wrote: Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2019 11:18:11 -0500 From: Gene Heskett Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Need a power signal independent of linuxcnc. On Tuesday 10 December 2019 10:16:16

Re: [Emc-users] Need a power signal independent of linuxcnc.

2019-12-10 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 10 December 2019 10:16:16 Peter C. Wallace wrote: > On Tue, 10 Dec 2019, Gene Heskett wrote: > > Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2019 06:46:16 -0500 > > From: Gene Heskett > > Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > > > > To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > > Subject: Re: [Emc-users]

Re: [Emc-users] Need a power signal independent of linuxcnc.

2019-12-10 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Tue, 10 Dec 2019, Gene Heskett wrote: Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2019 06:46:16 -0500 From: Gene Heskett Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Need a power signal independent of linuxcnc. On Monday 09 December 2019 22:45:26

Re: [Emc-users] Need a power signal independent of linuxcnc.

2019-12-10 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 10 December 2019 07:23:20 Marcus Bowman wrote: > Would a half-decent UPS not solve the problem? > More expensive, for sure, but fine for brown-outs and short cuts. > I know these were discussed recently, but we used to use them to keep > computer systems going in broadcast radio

Re: [Emc-users] Need a power signal independent of linuxcnc.

2019-12-10 Thread Marcus Bowman
Would a half-decent UPS not solve the problem? More expensive, for sure, but fine for brown-outs and short cuts. I know these were discussed recently, but we used to use them to keep computer systems going in broadcast radio studios where the Buildings department used to cut the power as part of

[Emc-users] Next probably silly Q

2019-12-10 Thread Gene Heskett
Greetings all; I am running the stretch iso install here on this big house box, but since the fire destroyed the old Asus board, I now have a new Prime Z370-A ll, with a 9nth gen 6 core i5 running at 3.7GHz and 32G of ddr4 memory. Much quicker than the old 2.1GHz 4 core phenom. Pretty quick

Re: [Emc-users] Need a power signal independent of linuxcnc.

2019-12-10 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 09 December 2019 22:45:26 Gene Heskett wrote: > Greetings PCW and all; > > I find I need a way to do a powerdown reset on the interface box of > one of my machines. And it needs to be separate from linuxcnc. That, > or some way to tickle the 7i76D to reset it before I start LinuxCNC >