Re: [Emc-users] New Debian install does not include Gedit

2015-04-01 Thread Belli Button
New Debian install CD does not include Gedit (even though it's the preferred
LCNC editor)?

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Re: [Emc-users] New Debian install does not include Gedit

2015-04-01 Thread Marius Liebenberg


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New Debian install CD does not include Gedit (even though it's the 
preferred
LCNC editor)?

That will be highly debateable but it is easy to get. Just do sudo 
apt-get install gedit



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Re: [Emc-users] New Debian install does not include Gedit

2015-04-01 Thread alex chiosso
Hi Belli.

I've installed the Debian Wheezy LCNC and I was surprised that Gedit wasn't
installed by default.
As an alternative editor I've installed Geany http://www.geany.org/ that
is much better than Gedit (this is my opinion ;-) ).
The only one disadvantege I've found is that Geany doesn't have the NC code
highlight.
But in any case you can install Gedit if you want from the command line
with sudo apt-get install gedit.

Alex

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 New Debian install CD does not include Gedit (even though it's the
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Re: [Emc-users] New Debian install does not include Gedit

2015-04-01 Thread John Thornton
I thought Nano was the preferred text editor for EMC...

On 4/1/2015 4:30 AM, Belli Button wrote:
 New Debian install CD does not include Gedit (even though it's the preferred
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Re: [Emc-users] New Debian install does not include Gedit

2015-04-01 Thread Dave Cole
I prefer gedit.It's easier for noobs to understand and use gedit.

Dave

On 4/1/2015 7:47 AM, John Thornton wrote:
 I thought Nano was the preferred text editor for EMC...

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 New Debian install CD does not include Gedit (even though it's the preferred
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Re: [Emc-users] New Debian install does not include Gedit

2015-04-01 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 01 April 2015 08:47:15 John Thornton wrote:
 I thought Nano was the preferred text editor for EMC...

It can be used on limited resource machines, but gedit, or geany has a 
much nicer interface.  Gedit I have had trash several files however, so 
while geany doesn't have all the syntax hylighting gedit has, its 
commands are nearly identical so if used to one you are used to the 
other.  And geany hasn't yet ever trashed a file for me, gedit has 
several times, and when it happened for about the 10th time while doing 
that 400 line hal for the lathe, that was the back breaking straw for 
me.

Nano has not ever trashed a file, but I find its command interface clumsy 
and a bit prehistoric.  If nano has a search (and replace) function, 
I've not figured out how to use it.

My distaste for gedit is because gedit probably cost me 2 extra weeks 
getting my lathe running with a 5i25 card because of its propensity to 
copy a line, or several lines of .hal stuff, into the middle of other 
lines of .hal stuff, caused me so much grief with the pure gibberish it 
created that I was ready to shoot all the neighborhood cats.  So I went 
looking for an editor that worked, and geany was it. With geany, and 
some help from rockhopper, I huge breath of fresh air for me.

 On 4/1/2015 4:30 AM, Belli Button wrote:
  New Debian install CD does not include Gedit (even though it's the
  preferred LCNC editor)?
 
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Re: [Emc-users] New Debian install does not include Gedit

2015-04-01 Thread Jack Coats
Editors are a religious issue.  (just google vi vs emacs and read a few
flame wars - I'm in the vi camp myself ;-) )

Use whatever floats your boat and works the way YOU want to work.  Editors
are used so much that you should get to know your preferred editor
'intimately' enough so you don't fumble with commands and you are
comfortable at using it yourself and you feel productive.


On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 7:47 AM, John Thornton bjt...@gmail.com wrote:

 I thought Nano was the preferred text editor for EMC...

 On 4/1/2015 4:30 AM, Belli Button wrote:
  New Debian install CD does not include Gedit (even though it's the
 preferred
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Re: [Emc-users] New Debian install does not include Gedit

2015-04-01 Thread Moses McKnight
That is interesting, because I use Gedit a *lot* - multiple instances running 
with multiple files open in each instance - and I have never had it trash a 
single file or ever even crash.

Moses

On 04/01/2015 08:33 AM, Gene Heskett wrote:
snip
 It can be used on limited resource machines, but gedit, or geany has a
 much nicer interface.  Gedit I have had trash several files however, so
 while geany doesn't have all the syntax hylighting gedit has, its
 commands are nearly identical so if used to one you are used to the
 other.  And geany hasn't yet ever trashed a file for me, gedit has
 several times, and when it happened for about the 10th time while doing
 that 400 line hal for the lathe, that was the back breaking straw for
 me.

 Nano has not ever trashed a file, but I find its command interface clumsy
 and a bit prehistoric.  If nano has a search (and replace) function,
 I've not figured out how to use it.

 My distaste for gedit is because gedit probably cost me 2 extra weeks
 getting my lathe running with a 5i25 card because of its propensity to
 copy a line, or several lines of .hal stuff, into the middle of other
 lines of .hal stuff, caused me so much grief with the pure gibberish it
 created that I was ready to shoot all the neighborhood cats.  So I went
 looking for an editor that worked, and geany was it. With geany, and
 some help from rockhopper, I huge breath of fresh air for me.

 On 4/1/2015 4:30 AM, Belli Button wrote:
 New Debian install CD does not include Gedit (even though it's the
 preferred LCNC editor)?

 Bellisimo

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Re: [Emc-users] New Debian install does not include Gedit

2015-04-01 Thread alex chiosso
If someone is able to add the nc code highlighting many people will really
appreciate it.;-)

On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 5:51 PM, Kyle Kerr ker...@gmail.com wrote:

 I noticed a couple of mentions that geany doesn't have nc highlighting.
 Adding it shouldn't be much of an issue. Heck, someone may already have the
 config available.
 On Apr 1, 2015 11:28 AM, Kirk Wallace kwall...@wallacecompany.com
 wrote:

  On 04/01/2015 06:33 AM, Gene Heskett wrote:
 
  ... snip
   My distaste for gedit is because gedit probably cost me 2 extra weeks
   getting my lathe running with a 5i25 card because of its propensity to
   copy a line, or several lines of .hal stuff, into the middle of other
   lines of .hal stuff,
  ... snip
 
  I have had this happen to me and it seems my mouse wheel is the source
  of trouble. The wheel is also the middle button which seems to have a
  paste function. When I use the wheel to scroll through a file there is a
  risk that turning the wheel also trips the middle button. One time, I
  pasted an e-mail reply several times into a large Python file.
  Sometimes, it can take weeks to discover the error. I've tried changing
  all my mice to ones without wheels, but they are too handy for scrolling
  and some software requires a wheel. I suppose I should figure out how to
  disable the wheel button function.
 
 
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Re: [Emc-users] New Debian install does not include Gedit

2015-04-01 Thread Kyle Kerr
I noticed a couple of mentions that geany doesn't have nc highlighting.
Adding it shouldn't be much of an issue. Heck, someone may already have the
config available.
On Apr 1, 2015 11:28 AM, Kirk Wallace kwall...@wallacecompany.com wrote:

 On 04/01/2015 06:33 AM, Gene Heskett wrote:

 ... snip
  My distaste for gedit is because gedit probably cost me 2 extra weeks
  getting my lathe running with a 5i25 card because of its propensity to
  copy a line, or several lines of .hal stuff, into the middle of other
  lines of .hal stuff,
 ... snip

 I have had this happen to me and it seems my mouse wheel is the source
 of trouble. The wheel is also the middle button which seems to have a
 paste function. When I use the wheel to scroll through a file there is a
 risk that turning the wheel also trips the middle button. One time, I
 pasted an e-mail reply several times into a large Python file.
 Sometimes, it can take weeks to discover the error. I've tried changing
 all my mice to ones without wheels, but they are too handy for scrolling
 and some software requires a wheel. I suppose I should figure out how to
 disable the wheel button function.


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Re: [Emc-users] New Debian install does not include Gedit

2015-04-01 Thread Gene Heskett


On Wednesday 01 April 2015 11:24:23 Kirk Wallace wrote:
 On 04/01/2015 06:33 AM, Gene Heskett wrote:

 ... snip

  My distaste for gedit is because gedit probably cost me 2 extra
  weeks getting my lathe running with a 5i25 card because of its
  propensity to copy a line, or several lines of .hal stuff, into the
  middle of other lines of .hal stuff,

 ... snip

 I have had this happen to me and it seems my mouse wheel is the source
 of trouble. The wheel is also the middle button which seems to have a
 paste function. When I use the wheel to scroll through a file there is
 a risk that turning the wheel also trips the middle button. One time,
 I pasted an e-mail reply several times into a large Python file.
 Sometimes, it can take weeks to discover the error. I've tried
 changing all my mice to ones without wheels, but they are too handy
 for scrolling and some software requires a wheel. I suppose I should
 figure out how to disable the wheel button function.

I am aware of that problem too, and it has bit me also.  But I can't see 
it pasting stuff 200+ lines on down the file from where the cursor is 
at.  What I usually do is open up some white space, do the paste, then 
nuke the unwanted white space.  But I totally agree, putting the paste 
as the MMB push when its the scroll wheel we are pushing on, was not one 
of our more genius mouse inventions. If I had my druthers, there would 
still be an MMB, down in front of the scroll wheel, with a raised top so 
if we straightend out the finger, it still would not touch the scroll 
wheel, even for people like me with a dogpatch ham hand that still 
cannot reach an octave spread on the piano keyboard.  I have to buy 
gloves in the XXL size, struggle to get them on because the wrist 
opening is still too tight and then have an inch or more of empty 
fingers/thumbs in the way.  Its a friggin PIMA to me.

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Re: [Emc-users] New Debian install does not include Gedit

2015-04-01 Thread Kirk Wallace
On 04/01/2015 06:33 AM, Gene Heskett wrote:

... snip
 My distaste for gedit is because gedit probably cost me 2 extra weeks
 getting my lathe running with a 5i25 card because of its propensity to
 copy a line, or several lines of .hal stuff, into the middle of other
 lines of .hal stuff,
... snip

I have had this happen to me and it seems my mouse wheel is the source 
of trouble. The wheel is also the middle button which seems to have a 
paste function. When I use the wheel to scroll through a file there is a 
risk that turning the wheel also trips the middle button. One time, I 
pasted an e-mail reply several times into a large Python file. 
Sometimes, it can take weeks to discover the error. I've tried changing 
all my mice to ones without wheels, but they are too handy for scrolling 
and some software requires a wheel. I suppose I should figure out how to 
disable the wheel button function.


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Re: [Emc-users] New Debian install does not include Gedit

2015-04-01 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 01 April 2015 11:58:59 alex chiosso wrote:
 If someone is able to add the nc code highlighting many people will
 really appreciate it.;-)

I did take a look at it Alex, but the plugin interface is totally 
different, so I figured the best I could do was break it.

 On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 5:51 PM, Kyle Kerr ker...@gmail.com wrote:
  I noticed a couple of mentions that geany doesn't have nc
  highlighting. Adding it shouldn't be much of an issue. Heck, someone
  may already have the config available.
  On Apr 1, 2015 11:28 AM, Kirk Wallace
  kwall...@wallacecompany.com
 
  wrote:
   On 04/01/2015 06:33 AM, Gene Heskett wrote:
  
   ... snip
  
My distaste for gedit is because gedit probably cost me 2 extra
weeks getting my lathe running with a 5i25 card because of its
propensity to copy a line, or several lines of .hal stuff, into
the middle of other lines of .hal stuff,
  
   ... snip
  
   I have had this happen to me and it seems my mouse wheel is the
   source of trouble. The wheel is also the middle button which seems
   to have a paste function. When I use the wheel to scroll through a
   file there is a risk that turning the wheel also trips the middle
   button. One time, I pasted an e-mail reply several times into a
   large Python file. Sometimes, it can take weeks to discover the
   error. I've tried changing all my mice to ones without wheels, but
   they are too handy for scrolling and some software requires a
   wheel. I suppose I should figure out how to disable the wheel
   button function.
  
  
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Re: [Emc-users] New Debian install does not include Gedit

2015-04-01 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 01 April 2015 10:10:24 Moses McKnight wrote:
 That is interesting, because I use Gedit a *lot* - multiple instances
 running with multiple files open in each instance - and I have never
 had it trash a single file or ever even crash.

 Moses

I have no clue where the actual fault in the gedit situation might lay, 
perhaps a plugin that didn't play well with others was at fault.  And 
now that I've found geany, I don't care.  Its a headache I needn't worry 
about any more.

If I am ever made aware that a newer minor version (its 20.3 in the 
10.04-4 repos), containing bugfixes is in the repo's, I might give it 
another chance.  In the debian repos for wheezy, it is some other far 
fetched version, like 3.4.2 but its been excised, or never installed.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
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