Re: [Emc-users] OT: Anilam Crusader M Documentation

2015-07-01 Thread Rick Lair
After all the replies yesterday, I realized that our control is a Anilam 
GX-M, not the regular M series. Apperently these were very uncommon, 
even better yet :)

Looking over the documentation everyone supplied though definitely helps 
me out though,

I did get the machine moving late yesterday though, it wouldn't fire up 
be cause it was sitting on one of the Y axis over-travel switches, I 
cranked it off the switch, and it came to life, now to just get the 
spindle going, and we should be good.

Thanks

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[Emc-users] OT: Anilam Crusader M Documentation

2015-06-30 Thread Rick Lair
Hello Guys,

I have seen random posts about converting Anilam controls over to Linuxcnc,

We just acquired a small vertical mill that has an Anilam Crusader M 
control on it, with zero documentation. The person we bought it off said 
everything worked, but had to get a few of the boards freshened up, and 
I now I have the control powered up, I  just don't know where to go from 
here to get the servos moving.

I was wondering if anyone had any literature on one of these controls, 
and if so, could I please take a look at it, to try to at least get it 
moving to see where I go from there, as to whether  I put Linuxcnc on 
it, or get rid of it.


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Re: [Emc-users] OT: Anilam Crusader M Documentation

2015-06-30 Thread Gene Heskett


On Tuesday 30 June 2015 12:49:48 Mark Johnsen wrote:
 Rick,

 I have what you need.  I just uploaded a zip file to my website and
 the following links should download the files if you paste them in
 browser. Let me know if they don't work, they did for me.

 http://www.ijohnsen.com/CrusaderM_Docs_All.zip
 http://www.ijohnsen.com/Supermax_YCM-16VS_Manual.pdf

 In the zip file above, the files of interest are:
 Cursader_M_3X_Programming.pdf (programming manual)
 Aux Codes 001.pdf  (I apparently thought the aux code docs were
 important at one point)
 AUX CODES.pdf
 DNC 001.pdf.  (for drip feeding if you want to do that).

 I do have a paper copy of the programming manual that is many many
 pages. I obviously don't need it anymore, so if you wanted to pay for
 shipping, I could send it out.

 Further, just this weekend I was taking pictures of all the circuit
 boards and control box and plan to put those on ebay when I get the
 chance.

 The zip file also has schematics and west amp servo info.

 The reason for my retrofit was that the monitor became intermittent
 and didn't work well at all.  I wasn't sure if it was the monitor or
 something else (like noisy power from my 3ph converter).  After
 contacting a company in Wisconsin (I think outside of Janesville),
 they thought the problem was a video chip and they wanted $500 to fix
 it and re-solder something?? After looking at the boards this past
 weekend, I was thinking it might not have been that hard, however I
 don't know what I don't know...

It probably isn't, the usual problem with monitiors is high ESR in the 
power supply and related capacitors. You need an ESR measuring meter to 
verify, about a $200 bill for the one I am familiar with, called a 
Capacitor Wizard by its maker. $20-$40 for replacement caps, and the 
meter, is still cheaper than $500 to some guy who probably never saw a 
CET test.  I am one of those critters.

 One question that I have to ask you to check if you get it running, is
 can you check to see what kind of 'dead-reckoning' you get between
 linear scale encoder counts?  To try to describe dead-reckoning (PCW
 Term) it is the control system hunting between two encoder 'marks' on
 the linear scales when an axis is at rest.  We see it because the
 linear scales are relatively coarse at 0.01mm spacing.  I recall
 having a little bit of an issue w/ thnat w/ the Crusader M, but more
 of an issue w/ LinuxCNC.  It's probably my tuning and I did take Chris
 Radek's advice and go more liberally w/ the gain on the west amp drive
 and now I experience times of little dead-reckoning and times of a lot
 of dead-reckoning.  A solution is a fine resolution rotary encoder on
 the leadscrew...

 Good luck,
 Mark

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  Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2015 10:49:17 -0400
  From: Rick Lair r...@superiorroll.com
  Subject: [Emc-users] OT: Anilam Crusader M Documentation
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  Message-ID: 5592ac6d.9010...@superiorroll.com
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  Hello Guys,
 
  I have seen random posts about converting Anilam controls over to
  Linuxcnc,
 
  We just acquired a small vertical mill that has an Anilam Crusader M
  control on it, with zero documentation. The person we bought it off
  said everything worked, but had to get a few of the boards freshened
  up, and I now I have the control powered up, I  just don't know
  where to go from here to get the servos moving.
 
  I was wondering if anyone had any literature on one of these
  controls, and if so, could I please take a look at it, to try to at
  least get it moving to see where I go from there, as to whether  I
  put Linuxcnc on it, or get rid of it.
 
 
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  Thanks
 
 
  Rick Lair
  Superior Roll  Turning LLC
  399 East Center Street
  Petersburg MI, 49270
  PH: 734-279-1831
  FAX: 734-279-1166
  www.superiorroll.com

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[Emc-users] OT: Anilam Crusader M Documentation

2015-06-30 Thread Mark Johnsen
Rick,

I have what you need.  I just uploaded a zip file to my website and the
following links should download the files if you paste them in browser.
Let me know if they don't work, they did for me.

http://www.ijohnsen.com/CrusaderM_Docs_All.zip
http://www.ijohnsen.com/Supermax_YCM-16VS_Manual.pdf

In the zip file above, the files of interest are:
Cursader_M_3X_Programming.pdf (programming manual)
Aux Codes 001.pdf  (I apparently thought the aux code docs were important
at one point)
AUX CODES.pdf
DNC 001.pdf.  (for drip feeding if you want to do that).

I do have a paper copy of the programming manual that is many many pages.
I obviously don't need it anymore, so if you wanted to pay for shipping, I
could send it out.

Further, just this weekend I was taking pictures of all the circuit boards
and control box and plan to put those on ebay when I get the chance.

The zip file also has schematics and west amp servo info.

The reason for my retrofit was that the monitor became intermittent and
didn't work well at all.  I wasn't sure if it was the monitor or something
else (like noisy power from my 3ph converter).  After contacting a company
in Wisconsin (I think outside of Janesville), they thought the problem was
a video chip and they wanted $500 to fix it and re-solder something??
After looking at the boards this past weekend, I was thinking it might not
have been that hard, however I don't know what I don't know...

One question that I have to ask you to check if you get it running, is can
you check to see what kind of 'dead-reckoning' you get between linear scale
encoder counts?  To try to describe dead-reckoning (PCW Term) it is the
control system hunting between two encoder 'marks' on the linear scales
when an axis is at rest.  We see it because the linear scales are
relatively coarse at 0.01mm spacing.  I recall having a little bit of an
issue w/ thnat w/ the Crusader M, but more of an issue w/ LinuxCNC.  It's
probably my tuning and I did take Chris Radek's advice and go more
liberally w/ the gain on the west amp drive and now I experience times of
little dead-reckoning and times of a lot of dead-reckoning.  A solution is
a fine resolution rotary encoder on the leadscrew...

Good luck,
Mark






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 Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2015 10:49:17 -0400
 From: Rick Lair r...@superiorroll.com
 Subject: [Emc-users] OT: Anilam Crusader M Documentation
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 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed

 Hello Guys,

 I have seen random posts about converting Anilam controls over to Linuxcnc,

 We just acquired a small vertical mill that has an Anilam Crusader M
 control on it, with zero documentation. The person we bought it off said
 everything worked, but had to get a few of the boards freshened up, and
 I now I have the control powered up, I  just don't know where to go from
 here to get the servos moving.

 I was wondering if anyone had any literature on one of these controls,
 and if so, could I please take a look at it, to try to at least get it
 moving to see where I go from there, as to whether  I put Linuxcnc on
 it, or get rid of it.


 --

 Thanks


 Rick Lair
 Superior Roll  Turning LLC
 399 East Center Street
 Petersburg MI, 49270
 PH: 734-279-1831
 FAX: 734-279-1166
 www.superiorroll.com




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Re: [Emc-users] OT: Anilam Crusader M Documentation

2015-06-30 Thread Gregg Eshelman
On 6/30/2015 11:19 AM, Gene Heskett wrote:


 On Tuesday 30 June 2015 12:49:48 Mark Johnsen wrote:
 Rick,

 The reason for my retrofit was that the monitor became intermittent
 and didn't work well at all.  I wasn't sure if it was the monitor or
 something else (like noisy power from my 3ph converter).  After
 contacting a company in Wisconsin (I think outside of Janesville),
 they thought the problem was a video chip and they wanted $500 to fix
 it and re-solder something?? After looking at the boards this past
 weekend, I was thinking it might not have been that hard, however I
 don't know what I don't know...

 It probably isn't, the usual problem with monitiors is high ESR in the
 power supply and related capacitors. You need an ESR measuring meter to
 verify, about a $200 bill for the one I am familiar with, called a
 Capacitor Wizard by its maker. $20-$40 for replacement caps, and the
 meter, is still cheaper than $500 to some guy who probably never saw a
 CET test.  I am one of those critters.

On my mill it was because the monitor literally exploded. The end of the 
CRT neck was blown off and there were burned and blown up parts on its 
circuit board.

So I got a mill for a decent price which became pretty close to free 
after selling off all the old electrics and all the un-needed manual 
parts in the head.


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Re: [Emc-users] OT: Anilam Crusader M Documentation

2015-06-30 Thread Gregg Eshelman
On 6/30/2015 8:49 AM, Rick Lair wrote:
 Hello Guys,

 I have seen random posts about converting Anilam controls over to Linuxcnc,

 We just acquired a small vertical mill that has an Anilam Crusader M
 control on it, with zero documentation. The person we bought it off said
 everything worked, but had to get a few of the boards freshened up, and
 I now I have the control powered up, I  just don't know where to go from
 here to get the servos moving.

 I was wondering if anyone had any literature on one of these controls,
 and if so, could I please take a look at it, to try to at least get it
 moving to see where I go from there, as to whether  I put Linuxcnc on
 it, or get rid of it.

When they're working, they work. There's a few videos on youtube of 
mills with the Crusader M system. They appear to be pretty slow. Another 
issue is high pitched noises if the driver boards aren't adjusted just 
right.

When they don't work, they can be very expensive to put back to 
original. Surprisingly, the two driver boards I had were the hardest 
parts to sell on eBay - despite a price well below any other on eBay or 
anywhere else online.

You can connect a PC to the RS232 port to 'drip feed' G-code to it in 
order to work around the small memory or if the micro tape drive is bad.

Some have bypassed or removed the Anilam computer and connected an 
upgraded system to the original driver boards.

The control panel in the monitor box connects via RS232C so it could be 
made to work as input for a PC control.

Run it off a Mini-ITX or Beagle Bone Black and there will be plenty of 
room in the huge box for other things. Perhaps a mini fridge...


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