Re: [Emc-users] linuxcnc and raspberry pi3

2017-03-18 Thread Abdul Rahman Riza
Dear Mr Martinjak, May I use you SD-Image? Riza On 05/22/2016 07:52 AM, W. Martinjak wrote: > On 2016-05-21 23:20, Abdul Rahman Riza wrote: >> Dear All, >> >> Anyone can suggest hot to utilize raspberry pi3 for linuxcnc? > Yes it works. > I've made a sd-image for the raspi2 and it works without

Re: [Emc-users] linuxcnc and raspberry pi3

2016-05-25 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 25.05.16 11:07, W. Martinjak wrote: > And Now for Something Completely Different. > The long weekend is reserved for biking and visiting > the "Hair Scramble" where my brother takes part. :) > > http://www.erzbergrodeo.at/view/p2/red_bull_hare_scramble Viel Spaß, und ein haufen Glück! A 30 km

Re: [Emc-users] linuxcnc and raspberry pi3

2016-05-25 Thread W. Martinjak
On 2016-05-25 03:09, Jeff Epler wrote: > If you would like to continue trying to work together, please let me > know. In any case, I hope you will accept this apology for the hurt > feelings I have caused during our IRC discussions. Jeff, to put it briefly, yes. But I need a break. And Now for

Re: [Emc-users] linuxcnc and raspberry pi3

2016-05-24 Thread Jeff Epler
I am sorry that we are having such difficulties in communicating with one another. I would like you to reach your personal goals with your current project. I would like to see hardware drivers for ARM boards such as raspberry pi become a part of linuxcnc, or reduce the technical barriers to buildi

Re: [Emc-users] linuxcnc and raspberry pi3

2016-05-24 Thread W. Martinjak
On 2016-05-24 23:33, andy pugh wrote: > As I read the IRC chat, it was not about the desirability of the > driver, but the problems of integrating it without breaking the build > system. Could you please describe how this 2 files can break the build system. I think integrating is a little bit amb

Re: [Emc-users] linuxcnc and raspberry pi3

2016-05-24 Thread andy pugh
On 24 May 2016 at 22:16, W. Martinjak wrote: > 2 weeks development and then: sorry no stamp! If this is (for want of a better term) an rpi_eth module for Hostmot2 then I think that it would be a useful addition. (I did, for a while, consider an RPi EPP mode for the 7i43 and Pico cards, but never

Re: [Emc-users] linuxcnc and raspberry pi3

2016-05-24 Thread W. Martinjak
On 2016-05-24 17:57, Dave Caroline wrote: > They did not say no, were not saying no, were not implying no, > You misunderstood, jepler was merely asking for a pull request to make > the review process easy. > > He wants to help. thereabout? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZ-SdU53MnY The odd thin

Re: [Emc-users] linuxcnc and raspberry pi3

2016-05-24 Thread Dave Cole
Jepler was objecting to doing stuff outside of the dev source tree and he gave reasons for objecting. (Read the first transcript of the exchange) Dave On 5/24/2016 11:57 AM, Dave Caroline wrote: > They did not say no, were not saying no, were not implying no, > You misunderstood, jepler was mere

Re: [Emc-users] linuxcnc and raspberry pi3

2016-05-24 Thread Dave Caroline
They did not say no, were not saying no, were not implying no, You misunderstood, jepler was merely asking for a pull request to make the review process easy. He wants to help. Dave Caroline -- Mobile security can be ena

Re: [Emc-users] linuxcnc and raspberry pi3

2016-05-24 Thread W. Martinjak
On 2016-05-24 17:05, andy pugh wrote: > I don't see it as cronyism, I see it as both sides of the conversation > being baffled about the motivations of the other. Show me where, please. I have requested for a first short review. Not more or no less. > Maybe there is a misunderstanding about hwat h

Re: [Emc-users] linuxcnc and raspberry pi3

2016-05-24 Thread andy pugh
On 24 May 2016 at 15:46, Dave Cole wrote: >> Yes, or someone treats you as a complete fool and you find yourself online >> with a helpdesk like Al Bundy. >> And this cronyism is weird. >> >> http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~tom-itx/irc/logs/%23linuxcnc-devel/2016-05-23.html#10:01:32 >> >> My fancy to

Re: [Emc-users] linuxcnc and raspberry pi3

2016-05-24 Thread Dave Cole
On 5/23/2016 12:12 PM, W. Martinjak wrote: > On 2016-05-23 17:28, andy pugh wrote: >> On 23 May 2016 at 13:40, W. Martinjak wrote: >>> It's right that the off-topic stuff quietens, but if you are the "wrong >>> one" not just the off-topic stuff. >>> Then suddenly there is silence for hours. >> Th

Re: [Emc-users] linuxcnc and raspberry pi3

2016-05-23 Thread Lester Caine
On 24/05/16 00:11, W. Martinjak wrote: > On 2016-05-24 00:45, Lester Caine wrote: >> > I'm looking for a 6 channel stepper motor package that can be tailored >> > for either mill or lathe as an alternative to the 5 channel USB boards >> > that I've currently got in clients kit. The 7i90 with a suit

Re: [Emc-users] linuxcnc and raspberry pi3

2016-05-23 Thread W. Martinjak
On 2016-05-24 00:45, Lester Caine wrote: > I'm looking for a 6 channel stepper motor package that can be tailored > for either mill or lathe as an alternative to the 5 channel USB boards > that I've currently got in clients kit. The 7i90 with a suitable > breakout board is currently top of the list

Re: [Emc-users] linuxcnc and raspberry pi3

2016-05-23 Thread Lester Caine
On 23/05/16 23:36, W. Martinjak wrote: > On 2016-05-24 00:23, Lester Caine wrote: >> > But the PoKeysCNC module does look a tidier alternate if we can get >> > control of it. > Yes and no, if you need servos the mesa cards are better. I'm looking for a 6 channel stepper motor package that can be t

Re: [Emc-users] linuxcnc and raspberry pi3

2016-05-23 Thread W. Martinjak
On 2016-05-24 00:23, Lester Caine wrote: > But the PoKeysCNC module does look a tidier alternate if we can get > control of it. Yes and no, if you need servos the mesa cards are better. -- "In der Wissenschaft siegt nie eine neue Theorie, nur ihre Gegner sterben nach und nach" Max Planck

Re: [Emc-users] linuxcnc and raspberry pi3

2016-05-23 Thread Lester Caine
On 23/05/16 23:08, W. Martinjak wrote: >> The best source is here: >> > http://mesaus.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=63&product_id=68 >> > 10 days delivery time. around 85 euros. > correction: > > $81,50 USD <=> €74,70 EUR to Austria. > > to UK it should be cheaper. Yes shipping fro

Re: [Emc-users] linuxcnc and raspberry pi3

2016-05-23 Thread W. Martinjak
On 2016-05-24 00:00, W. Martinjak wrote: > On 2016-05-23 23:36, Lester Caine wrote: >> Are there any alternative options to the 7190 available this side of the >> pond, or do I need to bring a few over to keep cost down? > The best source is here: > http://mesaus.com/index.php?route=product/product

Re: [Emc-users] linuxcnc and raspberry pi3

2016-05-23 Thread W. Martinjak
On 2016-05-23 23:36, Lester Caine wrote: > Are there any alternative options to the 7190 available this side of the > pond, or do I need to bring a few over to keep cost down? The best source is here: http://mesaus.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=63&product_id=68 10 days delivery time. aro

Re: [Emc-users] linuxcnc and raspberry pi3

2016-05-23 Thread andy pugh
On 23 May 2016 at 22:36, Lester Caine wrote: > Are there any alternative options to the 7190 available this side of the > pond, or do I need to bring a few over to keep cost down? It doesn't look like Duzi or EUsurplus have any. -- atp "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment an

Re: [Emc-users] linuxcnc and raspberry pi3

2016-05-23 Thread Lester Caine
On 22/05/16 01:52, W. Martinjak wrote: >> Anyone can suggest hot to utilize raspberry pi3 for linuxcnc? > Yes it works. > I've made a sd-image for the raspi2 and it works without any changes on the > raspi3. > With a mesa 7i90 card over spi. > Although only in testing environment but it works. :)

Re: [Emc-users] linuxcnc and raspberry pi3

2016-05-23 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 23 May 2016 13:50:50 Gene Heskett wrote: > On Monday 23 May 2016 12:12:21 W. Martinjak wrote: > > On 2016-05-23 17:28, andy pugh wrote: > > > On 23 May 2016 at 13:40, W. Martinjak wrote: > > >> It's right that the off-topic stuff quietens, but if you are the > > >> "wrong one" not just

Re: [Emc-users] linuxcnc and raspberry pi3

2016-05-23 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 23 May 2016 12:12:21 W. Martinjak wrote: > On 2016-05-23 17:28, andy pugh wrote: > > On 23 May 2016 at 13:40, W. Martinjak wrote: > >> It's right that the off-topic stuff quietens, but if you are the > >> "wrong one" not just the off-topic stuff. Then suddenly there is > >> silence for

Re: [Emc-users] linuxcnc and raspberry pi3

2016-05-23 Thread W. Martinjak
On 2016-05-23 17:28, andy pugh wrote: > On 23 May 2016 at 13:40, W. Martinjak wrote: >> It's right that the off-topic stuff quietens, but if you are the "wrong one" >> not just the off-topic stuff. >> Then suddenly there is silence for hours. > That often happens anyway. The IRC can sometimes be

Re: [Emc-users] linuxcnc and raspberry pi3

2016-05-23 Thread andy pugh
On 23 May 2016 at 13:40, W. Martinjak wrote: > It's right that the off-topic stuff quietens, but if you are the "wrong one" > not just the off-topic stuff. > Then suddenly there is silence for hours. That often happens anyway. The IRC can sometimes be the absolute best support channel. Or, if yo

Re: [Emc-users] linuxcnc and raspberry pi3

2016-05-23 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 23 May 2016 05:39:13 andy pugh wrote: > On 23 May 2016 at 01:58, Gene Heskett wrote: > > For sure, ;-) when it wants to be, but it needs a good BS filter > > too. And 99% of it is. But I repeat myself. 5 successive posts > > that do not contain one of a long list of words related to c

Re: [Emc-users] linuxcnc and raspberry pi3

2016-05-23 Thread W. Martinjak
On 2016-05-23 11:39, andy pugh wrote: > The off-topic stuff quietens down when there are LinuxCNC questions > being asked. The off-topic banter is something I view as the IRC > channel "idling". I must say. Gene has right. It's right that the off-topic stuff quietens, but if you are the "wrong one

Re: [Emc-users] linuxcnc and raspberry pi3

2016-05-23 Thread W. Martinjak
On 2016-05-23 12:19, Erik Christiansen wrote: > On 23.05.16 10:39, andy pugh wrote: >> The off-topic stuff quietens down when there are LinuxCNC questions >> being asked. The off-topic banter is something I view as the IRC >> channel "idling". > Almost like the "clacks" on Discworld, except that th

Re: [Emc-users] linuxcnc and raspberry pi3

2016-05-23 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 23.05.16 10:39, andy pugh wrote: > The off-topic stuff quietens down when there are LinuxCNC questions > being asked. The off-topic banter is something I view as the IRC > channel "idling". Almost like the "clacks" on Discworld, except that they kept the chatter in the overhead. Erik -- "You

Re: [Emc-users] linuxcnc and raspberry pi3

2016-05-23 Thread andy pugh
On 23 May 2016 at 01:58, Gene Heskett wrote: > For sure, ;-) when it wants to be, but it needs a good BS filter too. > And 99% of it is. But I repeat myself. 5 successive posts that do not > contain one of a long list of words related to cnc in general, should be > met with an automatic 24 kick

Re: [Emc-users] linuxcnc and raspberry pi3

2016-05-22 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 22 May 2016 20:58:45 Gene Heskett wrote: > On Sunday 22 May 2016 20:07:32 W. Martinjak wrote: > > On 2016-05-23 01:53, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > I haven't but very intermittently, followed the IRC conversation > > > as its 99% drivel and 1% edible meat. And probably 75% of the > > > tim

Re: [Emc-users] linuxcnc and raspberry pi3

2016-05-22 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 22 May 2016 20:07:32 W. Martinjak wrote: > On 2016-05-23 01:53, Gene Heskett wrote: > > I haven't but very intermittently, followed the IRC conversation as > > its 99% drivel and 1% edible meat. And probably 75% of the time I > > am ignored. > > Very good description. :D > But sometimes

Re: [Emc-users] linuxcnc and raspberry pi3

2016-05-22 Thread W. Martinjak
On 2016-05-23 01:53, Gene Heskett wrote: > I haven't but very intermittently, followed the IRC conversation as its > 99% drivel and 1% edible meat. And probably 75% of the time I am > ignored. Very good description. :D But sometimes it's usefull. -- "In der Wissenschaft siegt nie eine neue T

Re: [Emc-users] linuxcnc and raspberry pi3

2016-05-22 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 22 May 2016 19:02:16 W. Martinjak wrote: > On 2016-05-23 00:39, Gene Heskett wrote: > > Chuckle, thats great, but as I said also, I am not on the machinekit > > list, so wasn't aware of developments like that. Thanks for the > > heads up. > > Again, what you are t... ;) > > It's linuxcn

Re: [Emc-users] linuxcnc and raspberry pi3

2016-05-22 Thread W. Martinjak
On 2016-05-23 00:39, Gene Heskett wrote: > Chuckle, thats great, but as I said also, I am not on the machinekit > list, so wasn't aware of developments like that. Thanks for the heads > up. Again, what you are t... ;) It's linuxcnc not machinekit. Here is the log: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:

Re: [Emc-users] linuxcnc and raspberry pi3

2016-05-22 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 22 May 2016 16:16:40 W. Martinjak wrote: > On 2016-05-22 21:44, Gene Heskett wrote: > > However, they will have truly arrived when they grow a PCI bus, and > > a card such as the 5i25 is used to offload the timing difficult > > tasks such as stepper generation and encoder resolving, to t

Re: [Emc-users] linuxcnc and raspberry pi3 --> Micro controllers

2016-05-22 Thread Nicklas Karlsson
> No, not a PCI bus or a special purpose card. The way it will be is > some high speed serial bus like SPI or the like and in place of the > PCI card a generic micro controller card such as maybe even a Pi or > Arduino but NOT running an operating system. The OS and it's > scheduling is the sour

Re: [Emc-users] linuxcnc and raspberry pi3

2016-05-22 Thread Chris Albertson
On Sun, May 22, 2016 at 12:44 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Sunday 22 May 2016 14:28:02 Jon Elson wrote: No, not a PCI bus or a special purpose card. The way it will be is some high speed serial bus like SPI or the like and in place of the PCI card a generic micro controller card such as may

Re: [Emc-users] linuxcnc and raspberry pi3

2016-05-22 Thread W. Martinjak
On 2016-05-22 21:44, Gene Heskett wrote: > However, they will have truly arrived when they grow a PCI bus, and a > card such as the 5i25 is used to offload the timing difficult tasks such > as stepper generation and encoder resolving, to the 5i25. At that point > it can compete, but it won't ha

Re: [Emc-users] linuxcnc and raspberry pi3

2016-05-22 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 22 May 2016 14:28:02 Jon Elson wrote: > On 05/22/2016 11:39 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > See this jpg, I am sofware stepping on that machine yet. > > > >> And now with turbo on. > >> Much better! > >> And I think there is still space :) > > That is respectable, in line with many X86 s

Re: [Emc-users] linuxcnc and raspberry pi3

2016-05-22 Thread Nicklas Karlsson
> Umm, 33 u7s jitter on a 25 us thread doesn't sound all that > great! Now, if you don't need a base thread, 30 us jitter on > the servo thread could be usable in many applications. > > Jon Usually I use to design so that one full period of jitter is allowed without any difference on the outpu

Re: [Emc-users] linuxcnc and raspberry pi3

2016-05-22 Thread Jon Elson
On 05/22/2016 11:39 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > See this jpg, I am sofware stepping on that machine yet. >> And now with turbo on. >> Much better! >> And I think there is still space :) >> >> That is respectable, in line with many X86 systems. Jon -

Re: [Emc-users] linuxcnc and raspberry pi3

2016-05-22 Thread Jon Elson
On 05/22/2016 11:11 AM, W. Martinjak wrote: > > And now with turbo on. > Much better! > And I think there is still space :) > > Umm, 33 u7s jitter on a 25 us thread doesn't sound all that great! Now, if you don't need a base thread, 30 us jitter on the servo thread could be usable in many app

Re: [Emc-users] linuxcnc and raspberry pi3 --> stepper

2016-05-22 Thread Nicklas Karlsson
> > >>> Anyone can suggest hot to utilize raspberry pi3 for linuxcnc? > > >> > > >> Yes it works. > > >> I've made a sd-image for the raspi2 and it works without any > > >> changes on the raspi3. > > >> With a mesa 7i90 card over spi. > > >> Although only in testing environment but it works. :) > >

Re: [Emc-users] linuxcnc and raspberry pi3

2016-05-22 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 22 May 2016 12:11:24 W. Martinjak wrote: > On 2016-05-22 13:54, W. Martinjak wrote: > > On 2016-05-22 04:57, Ormund Williams wrote: > >> On Sun, 2016-05-22 at 02:52 +0200, W. Martinjak wrote: > >>> On 2016-05-21 23:20, Abdul Rahman Riza wrote: > Dear All, > > Anyone can su

Re: [Emc-users] linuxcnc and raspberry pi3

2016-05-22 Thread W. Martinjak
On 2016-05-22 18:22, andy pugh wrote: > On 22 May 2016 at 17:11, W. Martinjak wrote: >> And now with turbo on. >> Much better! >> And I think there is still space :) > > That's good enough for software stepping, the previous numbers were OK > for SPI / Mesa card. > > Where are you in the world

Re: [Emc-users] linuxcnc and raspberry pi3

2016-05-22 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 22 May 2016 07:54:52 W. Martinjak wrote: > On 2016-05-22 04:57, Ormund Williams wrote: > > On Sun, 2016-05-22 at 02:52 +0200, W. Martinjak wrote: > >> On 2016-05-21 23:20, Abdul Rahman Riza wrote: > >>> Dear All, > >>> > >>> Anyone can suggest hot to utilize raspberry pi3 for linuxcnc? >

Re: [Emc-users] linuxcnc and raspberry pi3

2016-05-22 Thread andy pugh
On 22 May 2016 at 17:11, W. Martinjak wrote: > And now with turbo on. > Much better! > And I think there is still space :) That's good enough for software stepping, the previous numbers were OK for SPI / Mesa card. Where are you in the world? I have a few of these PCBs left: https://forum.l

Re: [Emc-users] linuxcnc and raspberry pi3

2016-05-22 Thread W. Martinjak
On 2016-05-22 13:54, W. Martinjak wrote: > On 2016-05-22 04:57, Ormund Williams wrote: >> On Sun, 2016-05-22 at 02:52 +0200, W. Martinjak wrote: >>> On 2016-05-21 23:20, Abdul Rahman Riza wrote: Dear All, Anyone can suggest hot to utilize raspberry pi3 for linuxcnc? >>> Yes it works.

Re: [Emc-users] linuxcnc and raspberry pi3

2016-05-22 Thread Nicklas Karlsson
> Dear All, > > Anyone can suggest hot to utilize raspberry pi3 for linuxcnc? > > Regards, > Riza I think raspberry is best used for machine with builtin small touch screen or NML over tcp there real time is handled by raspberry and user interface by ordinary computer or other device. Raspber

Re: [Emc-users] linuxcnc and raspberry pi3

2016-05-22 Thread W. Martinjak
On 2016-05-22 04:57, Ormund Williams wrote: > On Sun, 2016-05-22 at 02:52 +0200, W. Martinjak wrote: >> On 2016-05-21 23:20, Abdul Rahman Riza wrote: >>> Dear All, >>> >>> Anyone can suggest hot to utilize raspberry pi3 for linuxcnc? >> Yes it works. >> I've made a sd-image for the raspi2 and it wo

Re: [Emc-users] linuxcnc and raspberry pi3

2016-05-21 Thread Ormund Williams
On Sun, 2016-05-22 at 02:52 +0200, W. Martinjak wrote: > On 2016-05-21 23:20, Abdul Rahman Riza wrote: > > > > Dear All, > > > > Anyone can suggest hot to utilize raspberry pi3 for linuxcnc? > Yes it works. > I've made a sd-image for the raspi2 and it works without any changes > on the raspi3. >

Re: [Emc-users] linuxcnc and raspberry pi3

2016-05-21 Thread W. Martinjak
On 2016-05-21 23:20, Abdul Rahman Riza wrote: > Dear All, > > Anyone can suggest hot to utilize raspberry pi3 for linuxcnc? Yes it works. I've made a sd-image for the raspi2 and it works without any changes on the raspi3. With a mesa 7i90 card over spi. Although only in testing environment but it

Re: [Emc-users] linuxcnc and raspberry pi3

2016-05-21 Thread andy pugh
On 21 May 2016 at 22:20, Abdul Rahman Riza wrote: > Anyone can suggest hot to utilize raspberry pi3 for linuxcnc? You would need to install the preempt-RT kernel, then see what the latency test says. If the Pi3 is like the previous models then the ethernet port is connected as a USB device, so

[Emc-users] linuxcnc and raspberry pi3

2016-05-21 Thread Abdul Rahman Riza
Dear All, Anyone can suggest hot to utilize raspberry pi3 for linuxcnc? Regards, Riza -- Mobile security can be enabling, not merely restricting. Employees who bring their own devices (BYOD) to work are irked by the impos