Re: [-empyre-] concerning violence, and more Antigone's bones

--empyre- soft-skinned space-- Hola Ana, la traducción alemana del „Laberinto de la soledad“ (1950) de Octavio Paz se publicó 1969, poco después de la matanza en la Plaza de Tlatelolco. Paz añadió un capituló que después apareció en el libro „Postdata“, editado por

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--empyre- soft-skinned space-- Wonderful text, Reinhold, and I am very pleased and grateful to all working hard to work in several languages. But I think it's also important to choose a lingua franca who can make me understand what Olga, born in Ucrania and Fereshed

Re: [-empyre-] concerning violence, and more Antigone's bones

--empyre- soft-skinned space-- Thanks Ana. Here comes a version in English The German translation of Octavio Paz most read book „The labyrinth of solitude“ (1950) was published 1969 - only a short time after the massacre on the Plaza del Tletelolco in Mexico City.

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--empyre- soft-skinned space-- so much now has been brought to the round, and thanks to all those who wrote on the weekend, after having been busy at some points during the week or traveling (like Pia, Olga, and Heiner); my not so very good idea to slow down was

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--empyre- soft-skinned space-- i have been following with great curiosity and emotion, but have not yet felt that i had anything to add. i live in a very densely populated area (Brooklyn NY) and while I love the vibrancy of the street life, i can also see it being

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--empyre- soft-skinned space-- Thanks for a fascinating and moving discussion. I just wanted to say that I have been following this more closely than any other empyre discussion for years. All of these mirrors on our world are overpowering. The atavistic barbarity of

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--empyre- soft-skinned space-- Several participants have now raised the idea of terror (event, representation, or the 'graphe,' the visual scaffold that Jon had implied) as cliché, and as kitsch. Alan however has always insisted here that the abject (experience and

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--empyre- soft-skinned space-- [en español] Varios participantes han planteado esta idea de terror (caso, la representación o el 'graphe,' el andamio visual que Jon había dado a entender) como cliché, y como kitsch. Alan, sin embargo, siempre ha insistido en que

Re: [-empyre-] concerning violence, and more Antigone's bones

--empyre- soft-skinned space-- On Sat, 8 Nov 2014, Johannes Birringer wrote: --empyre- soft-skinned space-- is there any grappling that could answer Alan's statement of dissolution? -- And I want to answer this in so

Re: [-empyre-] concerning violence, and more Antigone's bones

--empyre- soft-skinned space--Los 43 estudiantes mexicanos aparecieron (aparecieron?)ayer como polvo adentro de bolsas, casi no quedan huesos para examinar. Perdón, pero hoy estoy muy conmovida para cualquier análisis. Sin embargo la sola enunciación de esto contiene su

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--empyre- soft-skinned space-- Octavio Paz, Nobelprize in literature from Mexico, was Mexico's ambassador in India several years and come very near Hinduism and Buddhism. He wrote some superb books discussing the differences between Christianity and the Oriental

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--empyre- soft-skinned space-- Pardón, Alicia, I did not know that this news had broken, I am very dismayed to hear. (Pardón, Alicia, yo no sabía que esta noticia se había roto, estoy muy consternado y silenciado.) [Alicia schreibt] Los 43 estudiantes mexicanos

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--empyre- soft-skinned space--Hi, to you all. This is my first post, having just dipped my toe on the middle of an discission. I would like to approach Alan's idea of anguish-- that language creates anguish, taking us away from a state of total dissolution, thereby