Re: [-empyre-] poets patrons and the word academic

2010-01-04 Thread Simon Biggs
Good and bad are relative concepts, being the poles of an axis of value. That axis might be personal or public but it is always contingent. It does not exist as an absolute geometry but is variable, depending on context. That context is prescribed by other values of equal contingency. Art is a

Re: [-empyre-] complicit post

2010-01-04 Thread Cinzia Cremona
Sean, reading your comments is always so interesting. You write: Reversing their polarities, what if connectivity comes first and the elements it connects are secondary? Isn't that what the aesthetic experience infers? You have always been very sensitive to the ethics and politics of relating.

Re: [-empyre-] Unfolding Complicity

2010-01-04 Thread gh hovagimyan
gh comments below: On Jan 4, 2010, at 9:01 AM, John Haber wrote: Want a moral or two to make sense of this? One is that in the past it was plausible to set a strategy to avoid complicity. You could set yourself apart from commerce, or you could embrace it as a storyline My collaborative

Re: [-empyre-] poets patrons and the word academic

2010-01-04 Thread davin heckman
Simon, I agree with your post, wholeheartedly. But would add an extra emphasis to your statement and suggest that it might be a bad idea to deny the contingency of relative axes of value. Sometimes, there is a tendency to push art into purely aesthetic or purely moral scales of relation, and I

Re: [-empyre-] empyre Digest, Vol 62, Issue 4

2010-01-04 Thread John Haber
One thing about Johanna's example, since it bears on complicit. If you make people lose, it doesn't enrage them; it just makes the beg to buy in more. You have to make them win. John ___ empyre forum empyre@lists.cofa.unsw.edu.au