Re: [-empyre-] concerning violence

--empyre- soft-skinned space--The diversity of voices and texts from so many sites and times of terror both troubles and consoles. Does sharing violence somehow console even as/if it amplifies? How to thread ourselves through so many events of violence, events

Re: [-empyre-] concerning violence

--empyre- soft-skinned space--excellent. in the perpetrator, victim, witness triad - the witness is shocked/severed out of the equation, specifically in order to collapse imaginative and expressive space for the victim. the witness still exists, but to demonstrate

Re: [-empyre-] concerning violence, and more Antigone's bones

--empyre- soft-skinned space-- Several participants have now raised the idea of terror (event, representation, or the 'graphe,' the visual scaffold that Jon had implied) as cliché, and as kitsch. Alan however has always insisted here that the abject (experience and

Re: [-empyre-] concerning violence, and more Antigone's bones

--empyre- soft-skinned space-- [en español] Varios participantes han planteado esta idea de terror (caso, la representación o el 'graphe,' el andamio visual que Jon había dado a entender) como cliché, y como kitsch. Alan, sin embargo, siempre ha insistido en que

Re: [-empyre-] concerning violence, and more Antigone's bones

--empyre- soft-skinned space-- On Sat, 8 Nov 2014, Johannes Birringer wrote: --empyre- soft-skinned space-- is there any grappling that could answer Alan's statement of dissolution? -- And I want to answer this in so

Re: [-empyre-] concerning violence, and more Antigone's bones

--empyre- soft-skinned space--Los 43 estudiantes mexicanos aparecieron (aparecieron?)ayer como polvo adentro de bolsas, casi no quedan huesos para examinar. Perdón, pero hoy estoy muy conmovida para cualquier análisis. Sin embargo la sola enunciación de esto contiene su

Re: [-empyre-] concerning violence, and more Antigone's bones

--empyre- soft-skinned space-- Octavio Paz, Nobelprize in literature from Mexico, was Mexico's ambassador in India several years and come very near Hinduism and Buddhism. He wrote some superb books discussing the differences between Christianity and the Oriental

Re: [-empyre-] concerning violence, and more Antigone's bones

--empyre- soft-skinned space-- Pardón, Alicia, I did not know that this news had broken, I am very dismayed to hear. (Pardón, Alicia, yo no sabía que esta noticia se había roto, estoy muy consternado y silenciado.) [Alicia schreibt] Los 43 estudiantes mexicanos

Re: [-empyre-] concerning Ayotzinapa, and more Antigone's bones

--empyre- soft-skinned space-- [for those of you who cannot access mexican news channels or new york times, here the report on the Ayotzinapa case, which is a gruesome and chilling narrative) Americas |NYT Now Drug Gang Killed Students, Mexican Law Official Says

Re: [-empyre-] concerning violence, and more Antigone's bones

--empyre- soft-skinned space--Hi, to you all. This is my first post, having just dipped my toe on the middle of an discission. I would like to approach Alan's idea of anguish-- that language creates anguish, taking us away from a state of total dissolution, thereby

Re: [-empyre-] concerning Ayotzinapa, and more Antigone's bones

--empyre- soft-skinned space-- oh God, Johannes, how can anyone really 'deal' with this? how could the students, Mexico, anyone? I'm sitting here in tears and we're talking analytically online and we have to, I just don't always have the resources. humans do

Re: [-empyre-] concerning Ayotzinapa, and more Antigone's bones

--empyre- soft-skinned space-- yes. it is hard to maintain any composure, I also trembled when I read and felt sick to my stomach, and it was a different reaction to seeing images (say, of ISIS, or conflict areas in Iraq, Syria, Palestine, or the ghostly scenario in

Re: [-empyre-] concerning violence

--empyre- soft-skinned space--Jon, an interesting parallel between your post and the below passage which through some form tries to deal with the often visual spectacularity of modern violence, time and distance disappearing, the *there* collapsing into *here* through a

Re: [-empyre-] concerning Ayotzinapa, and more Antigone's bones

--empyre- soft-skinned space--Johannes, Yest, I'm sure it is true. Isaac doesn't utter a single word. He is least gifted in speech in the Bible (perhaps along with Moses, the stutterer). Most Old Testament figures live half in silence, think of Job, with the exception

[-empyre-] live stream with protests in Mexico

--empyre- soft-skinned space-- The murder of 43 young boys has awakened Mexico and ppl are chanting and protesting in the whole country, they demand president Pena's resignation. http://www.ustream.tv/channel/yo5oymexico Today we are all Mexicans, yesterday we were

Re: [-empyre-] live stream with protests in Mexico

--empyre- soft-skinned space--News desk is where Mother Courage is busy nowadays, trading, eating her children alive. But, isn' that a Father Lie in disguise? fascism, yes, all over the globe, and the majority, silent, as once the citizens of Buchenwald, turning heads

[-empyre-] images hard to watch

--empyre- soft-skinned space-- Dear empyreans, this work struck me as important for the conversation. Akram Al Halabi writes: Harsh images and videos of massacres published in the media. Images hard to watch. During the last three years, I was writing on these