Re: [-empyre-] Notes and a comment

2014-11-26 Thread William Bain
--empyre- soft-skinned space--So much has been said here in what's been posted overthe last day and a half—incredibly intelligent posts—that I wonder if I can addanything of importance. Police brutality all over the world has concerned mefor a long time. I think of

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2014-11-25 Thread Alan Sondheim
--empyre- soft-skinned space-- Notes and a comment - In support of Ana - http://www.thenation.com/article/190937/why-its-impossible-indict-cop From Wikipedia - Overall racial context According to The Washington Post, the incident sparked unrest in Ferguson

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2014-11-25 Thread Murat Nemet-Nejat
--empyre- soft-skinned space--...My own work carries failure in its heart, it helps some people (I hope) cope with the world - we all hope for that - it has no effect on the systemic, however In this sentence by Alan, I think, the most succinct crystalization of

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2014-11-25 Thread Ana Valdes
and a comment - --empyre- soft-skinned space-- Notes and a comment - In support of Ana - http://www.thenation.com/article/190937/why-its-impossible-indict-cop From Wikipedia - Overall racial context According to The Washington Post, the incident sparked unrest

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2014-11-25 Thread Alan Sondheim
--empyre- soft-skinned space-- Hi Ana, I'm just repeating myself; to me these are all very different with different causes; the underlying terror, anguish, genocides may be similar, but I can't lump the countries together, as you do. This is a real difference

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2014-11-25 Thread Sonja Leboš
--empyre- soft-skinned space--Dear all, thank you Johannes for inviting me to share my thoughts in this group of wonderful people from over the globe - what a wonderful opportunity for us all - I almost can see us sitting together in the future on some place in Syria or

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2014-11-25 Thread Sonja Leboš
--empyre- soft-skinned space--'Yes, the police can be horrific in the U.S. but there are no groups here committing genocide, wiping out towns and beheading everyone.' Alan? US army has been in war like no other army in the world since Indochina. Please. Sonja Leboš

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2014-11-25 Thread Alan Sondheim
--empyre- soft-skinned space-- That's true; obviously I'm not disputing that, and I've protested. I was talking about within the United States. On Tue, 25 Nov 2014, Sonja Lebo? wrote: --empyre- soft-skinned space-- (quote not coming

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2014-11-25 Thread Sonja Leboš
--empyre- soft-skinned space--but what are the national frontiers for than for protecting the inter(national) terror??? see no point putting forward the US attribute and say 'within the US' . The US is everywhere. it has global presence like no other country. Sonja

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2014-11-25 Thread Alan Sondheim
--empyre- soft-skinned space-- I'm withdrawing from discussion on empyre. At this point I feel I'm being personally attacked; it's not why I was interested in the subject in the first place, and I don't want to defend myself or bring my own activism into the