...@newcastle.ac.uk]
Sent: January 10, 2010 5:52 PM
To: soft_skinned_space
Subject: Re: [-empyre-] some thoughts on complicity
it's odd but so much of what I'm reading in this forum makes sense and I'd be
inclined to call it some kind of collectively elaborated / negotiated critical
theorising (not to say
] On Behalf Of Johanna Drucker [druc...@gseis.ucla.edu]
Sent: January 10, 2010 2:44 PM
To: soft_skinned_space
Subject: Re: [-empyre-] some thoughts on complicity
All,
Again, thanks all for all this rich discussion. Here's a few
thoughts in response to the various strains introduced in the last
...@gamera.cofa.unsw.edu.au] On Behalf Of Gerry Coulter
[gcoul...@ubishops.ca]
Sent: 10 January 2010 21:48
To: soft_skinned_space
Subject: Re: [-empyre-] some thoughts on complicity
Johanna,
We are no longer in a place where critical theory makes sense.
What we can do now is forge radical approaches. Theory
:48
To: soft_skinned_space
Subject: Re: [-empyre-] some thoughts on complicity
Johanna,
We are no longer in a place where critical theory makes sense.
What we can do now is forge radical approaches. Theory as challenge.
Art that operates as challenge participates in this.
Re: Politics is change
.
As for Marx: Capitalism never had a better friend.
best Gerry
From: empyre-boun...@gamera.cofa.unsw.edu.au [empyre-
boun...@gamera.cofa.unsw.edu.au
] On Behalf Of Johanna Drucker [druc...@gseis.ucla.edu]
Sent: January 10, 2010 2:44 PM
To: soft_skinned_space
Subject: Re: [-empyre-] some
2010 18:04:02 -0500
*To: *soft_skinned_space emp...@gamera.cofa.unsw.edu.au, Gregory
Ulmer g...@ufl.edu
*Subject: *Re: [-empyre-] some thoughts on complicity
Johanna Drucker wrote:
I just don't want anyone to be excused from it I mean, it's like
not an opt-out category
Right
Biggs
[s.bi...@eca.ac.uk]
Sent: January 9, 2010 6:23 AM
To: soft_skinned_space; Gregory Ulmer
Subject: Re: [-empyre-] some thoughts on complicity
Deleuze’s view does contain within it aspects of dualism, as Gregory has
observed. Latour and Ihde offer potential ways out of this, with network theory
To: soft_skinned_space; Gregory Ulmer
Subject: Re: [-empyre-] some thoughts on complicity
Johanna Drucker wrote:
I just don't want anyone to be excused from it I mean, it's like
not an opt-out category
Right, but the desire to opt-out, and the intuition that one ought to
disown complicity
*To: *soft_skinned_space emp...@gamera.cofa.unsw.edu.au, Gregory
Ulmer g...@ufl.edu
*Subject: *Re: [-empyre-] some thoughts on complicity
Johanna Drucker wrote:
I just don't want anyone to be excused from it I mean, it's like
not an opt-out category
Right, but the desire to opt-out
And what extends from this proposition - or is merely a ode to bad faith
On 1/9/10 6:23 AM, Simon Biggs s.bi...@eca.ac.uk wrote:
In short, everyone is always complicit.
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Saul has a very bright thought.
Further etymological notations:
Theatre de Complicite, now just Complicite (http://www.complicite.org/), the
British theatre group, seem to understand the term, since they started in
the early 80s, to mean collaboration, including mixing various technical
devices
Really interesting Virginia, hits the spot (for me anyway). Only,
whereas you say if life is commoditized and art is collapsed into
life then art is commoditized I wonder about the reverse: if art
is un-commoditized and life is collapsed into art then life is un-
commoditized. I see great
I wonder if it is possible to keep complicit from carrying a
pejorative connotation? I meant for it to be a description, not a
judgment, that exposes the inevitable condition of participation in
cultural conditions as the place from which we each think, work,
write, live. I'm not a
:04 PM
To: soft_skinned_space
Subject: Re: [-empyre-] some thoughts on complicity
I wonder if it is possible to keep complicit from carrying a
pejorative connotation? I meant for it to be a description, not a
judgment, that exposes the inevitable condition of participation in
cultural conditions
From: empyre-boun...@gamera.cofa.unsw.edu.au [empyre-
boun...@gamera.cofa.unsw.edu.au] On Behalf Of Johanna Drucker
[druc...@gseis.ucla.edu]
Sent: January 8, 2010 1:04 PM
To: soft_skinned_space
Subject: Re: [-empyre-] some thoughts on complicity
I wonder if it is possible to keep
From: empyre-boun...@gamera.cofa.unsw.edu.au [empyre-
boun...@gamera.cofa.unsw.edu.au] On Behalf Of Johanna Drucker
[druc...@gseis.ucla.edu]
Sent: January 8, 2010 1:04 PM
To: soft_skinned_space
Subject: Re: [-empyre-] some thoughts on complicity
I wonder if it is possible to keep
Precisely:
On Jan 8, 2010, at 3:04 PM, Gregory Ulmer wrote:
To place complicity in this context clarifies to some extent why
ecology as politics and ethics meets so much resistance in
practice: to
think ecologically requires admission of complicity. The motto of the
EmerAgency is
this conversation about complicity, and in particular the thoughts about the
ways in which models of critical engagement and aesthetic judgment are no
longer applicable to certain forms of contemporary art practice, is very
exciting! and timely, for the work that I am currently doing on canadian
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