Re: [-empyre-] Vor dem Gesetz/Before the Law, hoveringly

2014-11-21 Thread William Bain
--empyre- soft-skinned space--Brilliant thought provoking dis-cussion again, Empyrycysts.I think about different points on the law, the law as something that must beinterpreted, how the law rubs sapiens the wrong way and provokes art. The lawis art. Human activity in

Re: [-empyre-] Vor dem Gesetz/Before the Law, hoveringly

2014-11-21 Thread Johannes Birringer
--empyre- soft-skinned space-- dear Ana ah, maybe I misunderstood you, as you argued that societies are fundamentally unhealthy: [Ana schreibt] we talk a lot about healing, but suppose we don't need to be healed? I mean the idea of a healthy society is ludicrous,

Re: [-empyre-] Vor dem Gesetz/Before the Law, hoveringly

2014-11-21 Thread Ana Valdés
--empyre- soft-skinned space-- I ment that maybe societies are normally unhealthy and our try to normalize things, the frame violence and despair and happiness are risen from our beliefs, born with the Modernity, on a shiny good world where health and happiness were

Re: [-empyre-] introducing week 3

2014-11-21 Thread Aneta Stojnic
--empyre- soft-skinned space--Greetings to all! And many thanx to Johannes for introducing me to the list and inviting me to participate in this necessary and wonderfully deep, yet deeply disturbing discussions. As a newcomer to empire I have been following the

Re: [-empyre-] Vor dem Gesetz/Before the Law, hoveringly

2014-11-21 Thread Johannes Birringer
--empyre- soft-skinned space-- thank you Christina for offering a clear and sober approach to the conflagrations and to absolute violence which have been discussed, and you counsel making, naming, small acts, conversation, small acts. I agree with you, and that is

Re: [-empyre-] Vor dem Gesetz/Before the Law, hoveringly

2014-11-21 Thread Alan Sondheim
--empyre- soft-skinned space-- On Fri, 21 Nov 2014, Johannes Birringer wrote: --empyre- soft-skinned space-- out is what high, backwards, looking at the horror piled up, and yes, Alan, that horror grows and historically, how do you

Re: [-empyre-] Vor dem Gesetz, was geschehen ist

2014-11-21 Thread simon
--empyre- soft-skinned space-- a note: Kafka asks what if the Law, in its timely (l)iteration, were Justice, in its untimely (ethico-aesthetic - or ethological) imagination? the playwright, Howard Barker, follows, with an oeuvre imagining first freedom as a political

Re: [-empyre-] Vor dem Gesetz/Before the Law, hoveringly

2014-11-21 Thread Christina Spiesel
--empyre- soft-skinned space-- Thank you, Johannes! And now asking a favor: 1) I do not want to sidetrack the empyre discussion although my query is in part engendered by the conversation, so if any of you knows something, you might just want to email me directly.

Re: [-empyre-] Vor dem Gesetz/Before the Law, hoveringly

2014-11-21 Thread Monika Weiss
--empyre- soft-skinned space--Dear all, I have been on an airplane and now I see so much has happened in our writing in the meantime. I will read/address those newer posts later tonight but in this post I would like to share what I wrote on the subject of voice of