Re: [Enigmail] Best way to move to TB 78

2020-10-24 Thread Mark
I have TB 78 on one machine that I installed fresh (no TB nor GPG) on
there originally and it seems to be working fine. On my main one it is
still at 68 but now shows an upgrade to 78. From what I have heard there
will no longer be any updates for 68 I will be upgrading it to 78 as well.

On 10/24/2020 2:17 AM, Patrick Brunschwig wrote:
> On 23.10.2020 15:57, Andreas Hirsch wrote:
>> Hi Patrick,
>>
>> Patrick Brunschwig schrieb am 25.09.2020 um 07:31:
>>> On 25.09.2020 07:28, Mark wrote:
 Currently I'm using TB 68 with Enigmail and GPG4Win on one system.
 I would like to try out TB 78 with it's Open PGP but want to test
 it on a separate machine which does not have TB, Enigmail, nor
 GPG4Win on it at all.

 How would be the best way to accomplish this so that it imports my 
 private and public keys into it?  The mail itself can be
 re-downloaded off the servers so not real worried about that. I'm
 just not sure how best to handle the PGP keys.
>>> Read the following article: 
>>> https://sourceforge.net/p/enigmail/forum/announce/thread/7dcd29e5f9/
>> 'With the Thunderbird 78.2.1 release, OpenPGP in Thunderbird is
>> considered complete, and upgrading of installations from Thunderbird 68
>> to 78 was activated.'
>>
>> In the meantime, only at one pc in my bussines and private relations
>> migration was offered.
>>
>> So I have two questions:
>>
>> - do you have any information wether the automatic migration process
>> hast been stopped?
> Automatic migration has been enabled and re-disabled a few times due to
> bugs and problems with TB 78. AFAIK, migration should currently be
> enabled, but a low rate.
>
>> - do you recommend to start migration by hand?
> I can't give a recommendation. But here is a thought: if the Thunderbird
> developers would be 100% convinced that everything is perfectly fine,
> they would probably push migration more actively and at a higher rate
> than they do.
>
> -Patrick
>
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Re: [Enigmail] Best way to move to TB 78

2020-10-24 Thread Patrick Brunschwig
On 23.10.2020 15:57, Andreas Hirsch wrote:
> Hi Patrick,
> 
> Patrick Brunschwig schrieb am 25.09.2020 um 07:31:
>> On 25.09.2020 07:28, Mark wrote:
> 
>>> Currently I'm using TB 68 with Enigmail and GPG4Win on one system.
>>> I would like to try out TB 78 with it's Open PGP but want to test
>>> it on a separate machine which does not have TB, Enigmail, nor
>>> GPG4Win on it at all.
>>>
>>> How would be the best way to accomplish this so that it imports my 
>>> private and public keys into it?  The mail itself can be
>>> re-downloaded off the servers so not real worried about that. I'm
>>> just not sure how best to handle the PGP keys.
>>
>> Read the following article: 
>> https://sourceforge.net/p/enigmail/forum/announce/thread/7dcd29e5f9/
> 
> 'With the Thunderbird 78.2.1 release, OpenPGP in Thunderbird is
> considered complete, and upgrading of installations from Thunderbird 68
> to 78 was activated.'
> 
> In the meantime, only at one pc in my bussines and private relations
> migration was offered.
> 
> So I have two questions:
> 
> - do you have any information wether the automatic migration process
> hast been stopped?

Automatic migration has been enabled and re-disabled a few times due to
bugs and problems with TB 78. AFAIK, migration should currently be
enabled, but a low rate.

> - do you recommend to start migration by hand?

I can't give a recommendation. But here is a thought: if the Thunderbird
developers would be 100% convinced that everything is perfectly fine,
they would probably push migration more actively and at a higher rate
than they do.

-Patrick



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Re: [Enigmail] Best way to move to TB 78

2020-10-23 Thread Mark
This question was originally from me. What I ended up doing is
installing GPG4Win on that other PC and used a program from Robert
Hansen that backs up and restores all the relevant GPG files. I then
restored those keys  into GPG4Win and installed Thunderbird 78 which did
import the keys into its own keystore.

There might have been easier ways but I wanted to make sure I my keys
were completely imported.

On 10/23/2020 6:57 AM, Andreas Hirsch wrote:
> Hi Patrick,
>
> Patrick Brunschwig schrieb am 25.09.2020 um 07:31:
>> On 25.09.2020 07:28, Mark wrote:
>>> Currently I'm using TB 68 with Enigmail and GPG4Win on one system.
>>> I would like to try out TB 78 with it's Open PGP but want to test
>>> it on a separate machine which does not have TB, Enigmail, nor
>>> GPG4Win on it at all.
>>>
>>> How would be the best way to accomplish this so that it imports my
>>> private and public keys into it?  The mail itself can be
>>> re-downloaded off the servers so not real worried about that. I'm
>>> just not sure how best to handle the PGP keys.
>> Read the following article:
>> https://sourceforge.net/p/enigmail/forum/announce/thread/7dcd29e5f9/
> 'With the Thunderbird 78.2.1 release, OpenPGP in Thunderbird is
> considered complete, and upgrading of installations from Thunderbird 68
> to 78 was activated.'
>
> In the meantime, only at one pc in my bussines and private relations
> migration was offered.
>
> So I have two questions:
>
> - do you have any information wether the automatic migration process
> hast been stopped?
> - do you recommend to start migration by hand?
>
> Thank You!
>
> Andreas
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Re: [Enigmail] Best way to move to TB 78

2020-10-23 Thread Andreas Hirsch
Hi Patrick,

Patrick Brunschwig schrieb am 25.09.2020 um 07:31:
> On 25.09.2020 07:28, Mark wrote:

>> Currently I'm using TB 68 with Enigmail and GPG4Win on one system.
>> I would like to try out TB 78 with it's Open PGP but want to test
>> it on a separate machine which does not have TB, Enigmail, nor
>> GPG4Win on it at all.
>> 
>> How would be the best way to accomplish this so that it imports my 
>> private and public keys into it?  The mail itself can be
>> re-downloaded off the servers so not real worried about that. I'm
>> just not sure how best to handle the PGP keys.
> 
> Read the following article: 
> https://sourceforge.net/p/enigmail/forum/announce/thread/7dcd29e5f9/

'With the Thunderbird 78.2.1 release, OpenPGP in Thunderbird is
considered complete, and upgrading of installations from Thunderbird 68
to 78 was activated.'

In the meantime, only at one pc in my bussines and private relations
migration was offered.

So I have two questions:

- do you have any information wether the automatic migration process
hast been stopped?
- do you recommend to start migration by hand?

Thank You!

Andreas

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Re: [Enigmail] Best way to move to TB 78

2020-09-26 Thread Patrick Brunschwig
Am 26. September 2020 04:54:41 MESZ schrieb Phil Kane :
>The move of my originating key pair from TB68 to TB78 on a Win 10 laptop
>went very smoothly.  OpenPGP Key Manager permits me to see that key but
>not the public keys from other people, as was done by Kleopatra.  The
>"Show keys from other people" box in the OpenPGP Key Manager was
>checked.  Did I miss something or is this a bug in OpenPGP?
>
>Phil Kane
>Beaverton, OR  USA
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If you used the Enigmail migration wizard, it would import all public and 
secret keys. But I think that you only imported your own key manually.

To import all your public keys, first export all of them from Kleopatra or 
GnuPG, and then import using the OpenPGP key manager.

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Re: [Enigmail] Best way to move to TB 78

2020-09-25 Thread Mark
Interestingso basically only imported your own key?  See that is why
I want to install it on a separate machine first before updating my
daily use one. It would be a totally fresh install on that other machine
as it doesn't have Thunderbird nor any PGP programs/keys.


On 9/25/2020 7:54 PM, Phil Kane wrote:
> The move of my originating key pair from TB68 to TB78 on a Win 10 laptop
> went very smoothly.  OpenPGP Key Manager permits me to see that key but
> not the public keys from other people, as was done by Kleopatra.  The
> "Show keys from other people" box in the OpenPGP Key Manager was
> checked.  Did I miss something or is this a bug in OpenPGP?
>
> Phil Kane
> Beaverton, OR  USA
>
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Re: [Enigmail] Best way to move to TB 78

2020-09-25 Thread Phil Kane
The move of my originating key pair from TB68 to TB78 on a Win 10 laptop
went very smoothly.  OpenPGP Key Manager permits me to see that key but
not the public keys from other people, as was done by Kleopatra.  The
"Show keys from other people" box in the OpenPGP Key Manager was
checked.  Did I miss something or is this a bug in OpenPGP?

Phil Kane
Beaverton, OR  USA

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Re: [Enigmail] Best way to move to TB 78

2020-09-25 Thread Mark
I will give that a try and see how (well) it works. If someone has a
better idea, please let me know.

Thanks

On 9/25/2020 8:25 AM, Patrick Brunschwig wrote:
> Yes, that's a possible approach. You won't need Enigmail afterwards anymore.
>
> -Patrick
>
> On 25/09/2020 07:44, Mark wrote:
>> Thanks from my read of it I gather (as I'm starting with a blank
>> slate on that other machine) I would need to first install GPG4Win on it
>> and then copy my key files to that PC. I would then install TB78 and
>> also the "migration edition" of Enigmail to import the keys into TB78's
>> OpenPGP "database" 
>>
>> Is that correct? 
>>
>> If so, is there a need to leave that version of Enigmail installed after
>> the initial importation of those keys?
>>
>> Thanks Again
>>
>> On 9/24/2020 10:31 PM, Patrick Brunschwig wrote:
>>> On 25.09.2020 07:28, Mark wrote:
 Forgive me if this is a bit off-topic but I hope someone can give me
 some tips.

 Currently I'm using TB 68 with Enigmail and GPG4Win on one system. I
 would like to try out TB 78 with it's Open PGP but want to test it on a
 separate machine which does not have TB, Enigmail, nor GPG4Win on it at
 all.

 How would be the best way to accomplish this so that it imports my
 private and public keys into it?  The mail itself can be re-downloaded
 off the servers so not real worried about that. I'm just not sure how
 best to handle the PGP keys.
>>> Read the following article:
>>> https://sourceforge.net/p/enigmail/forum/announce/thread/7dcd29e5f9/
>>>
>>> -Patrick
>>>
>>>
>

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Re: [Enigmail] Best way to move to TB 78

2020-09-25 Thread Patrick Brunschwig
Yes, that's a possible approach. You won't need Enigmail afterwards anymore.

-Patrick

On 25/09/2020 07:44, Mark wrote:
> Thanks from my read of it I gather (as I'm starting with a blank
> slate on that other machine) I would need to first install GPG4Win on it
> and then copy my key files to that PC. I would then install TB78 and
> also the "migration edition" of Enigmail to import the keys into TB78's
> OpenPGP "database" 
> 
> Is that correct? 
> 
> If so, is there a need to leave that version of Enigmail installed after
> the initial importation of those keys?
> 
> Thanks Again
> 
> On 9/24/2020 10:31 PM, Patrick Brunschwig wrote:
>> On 25.09.2020 07:28, Mark wrote:
>>> Forgive me if this is a bit off-topic but I hope someone can give me
>>> some tips.
>>>
>>> Currently I'm using TB 68 with Enigmail and GPG4Win on one system. I
>>> would like to try out TB 78 with it's Open PGP but want to test it on a
>>> separate machine which does not have TB, Enigmail, nor GPG4Win on it at
>>> all.
>>>
>>> How would be the best way to accomplish this so that it imports my
>>> private and public keys into it?  The mail itself can be re-downloaded
>>> off the servers so not real worried about that. I'm just not sure how
>>> best to handle the PGP keys.
>> Read the following article:
>> https://sourceforge.net/p/enigmail/forum/announce/thread/7dcd29e5f9/
>>
>> -Patrick
>>
>>




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Re: [Enigmail] Best way to move to TB 78

2020-09-24 Thread Mark
Thanks from my read of it I gather (as I'm starting with a blank
slate on that other machine) I would need to first install GPG4Win on it
and then copy my key files to that PC. I would then install TB78 and
also the "migration edition" of Enigmail to import the keys into TB78's
OpenPGP "database" 

Is that correct? 

If so, is there a need to leave that version of Enigmail installed after
the initial importation of those keys?

Thanks Again

On 9/24/2020 10:31 PM, Patrick Brunschwig wrote:
> On 25.09.2020 07:28, Mark wrote:
>> Forgive me if this is a bit off-topic but I hope someone can give me
>> some tips.
>>
>> Currently I'm using TB 68 with Enigmail and GPG4Win on one system. I
>> would like to try out TB 78 with it's Open PGP but want to test it on a
>> separate machine which does not have TB, Enigmail, nor GPG4Win on it at
>> all.
>>
>> How would be the best way to accomplish this so that it imports my
>> private and public keys into it?  The mail itself can be re-downloaded
>> off the servers so not real worried about that. I'm just not sure how
>> best to handle the PGP keys.
> Read the following article:
> https://sourceforge.net/p/enigmail/forum/announce/thread/7dcd29e5f9/
>
> -Patrick
>
>

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Re: [Enigmail] Best way to move to TB 78

2020-09-24 Thread Patrick Brunschwig
On 25.09.2020 07:28, Mark wrote:
> Forgive me if this is a bit off-topic but I hope someone can give me
> some tips.
> 
> Currently I'm using TB 68 with Enigmail and GPG4Win on one system. I
> would like to try out TB 78 with it's Open PGP but want to test it on a
> separate machine which does not have TB, Enigmail, nor GPG4Win on it at
> all.
> 
> How would be the best way to accomplish this so that it imports my
> private and public keys into it?  The mail itself can be re-downloaded
> off the servers so not real worried about that. I'm just not sure how
> best to handle the PGP keys.

Read the following article:
https://sourceforge.net/p/enigmail/forum/announce/thread/7dcd29e5f9/

-Patrick




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