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From: Ian C. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [E-devel] Google summer of code 2008 Midterms
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Attention all GSoC students
On Thu, Jul 03, 2008 at 06:45:48AM -0700, Ian C. wrote:
Attention all GSoC students and mentors,
This is a reminder that midterm evaluation surveys open July 7th.
Information about the surveys can be found at the links below.
I meant to say I'm aware.
On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 5:07 AM, Fedor Gusev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, Jul 03, 2008 at 06:45:48AM -0700, Ian C. wrote:
Attention all GSoC students and mentors,
This is a reminder that midterm evaluation surveys open July 7th.
Information about the surveys
Right
On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 12:12 PM, Terrance Hutchinson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I meant to say I'm aware.
On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 5:07 AM, Fedor Gusev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, Jul 03, 2008 at 06:45:48AM -0700, Ian C. wrote:
Attention all GSoC students and mentors,
This is a
Attention all GSoC students and mentors,
This is a reminder that midterm evaluation surveys open July 7th.
Information about the surveys can be found at the links below.
http://groups.google.com/group/google-summer-of-code-announce/web/midterm-survey-information
Hey,
Attention all GSoC students and mentors,
This is a reminder that midterm evaluation surveys open July 7th.
Information about the surveys can be found at the links below.
http://groups.google.com/group/google-summer-of-code-announce/web/midterm-survey-information
On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 3:49 PM, Vincent Torri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hey,
Attention all GSoC students and mentors,
This is a reminder that midterm evaluation surveys open July 7th.
Information about the surveys can be found at the links below.
El Thursday 03 July 2008 10:45:48 Ian C. escribió:
Attention all GSoC students and mentors,
This is a reminder that midterm evaluation surveys open July 7th.
Information about the surveys can be found at the links below.
I'll remember this for about 20 minutes and I'll forget so might want to
point it out again on the 7th.
Ian C. wrote:
Attention all GSoC students and mentors,
This is a reminder that midterm evaluation surveys open July 7th.
Information about the surveys can be found at the links below.
Gustavo wrote:
On 2/27/08, Vincent Torri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think that we should add evas filters. It should be very
interresting for student (study of the internal behaviour of
evas, interresting algorithm to perfmorm different filters...).
Rotation,
On Mon, 3 Mar 2008 08:01:07 GMT [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:
I'm not sure what getting e17 out or enesim have to do with
the particulars of the evas filters/transforms proposals you added to
the wiki.
How much have you looked into this? You don't need OpenGL
or
On Mon, Mar 3, 2008 at 8:41 AM, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, 3 Mar 2008 08:01:07 GMT [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
babbled:
I'm not sure what getting e17 out or enesim have to do with
the particulars of the evas filters/transforms
On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 9:00 AM, Jorge Luis Zapata Muga
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 11:32 AM, Vincent Torri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, 27 Feb 2008, Nicolas Aguirre wrote:
On 2/27/08, Vincent Torri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think that we
Ravenlock wrote:
What has to happen is, we have to describe our ideas in terms
that non-E-devs can understand, and appreciate.
(Nice work on this BTW)
Ok, let's take a naive point of view - we're all now neophytes
with no real knowledge of e, and someone's asking
Vincent wrote:
* writing an evince-like prog in full edje
Why would anyone not familiar with e care about anything like
this? There's already an evince. Why would a similar app, but with this
edje, be of any interest to anyone, or of interest enough that they'd
pay someone to
On 02/29/2008 10:43, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ravenlock wrote:
What has to happen is, we have to describe our ideas in terms
that non-E-devs can understand, and appreciate.
(Nice work on this BTW)
Ok, let's take a naive point of view - we're all now neophytes
Vincent wrote:
what i wanted, is a gui that is not like evince and use the power
of edje (see the wiki)
With your reasonning, just gave up all the EFL, as they are libs
to write mainly gui. And a lot of tool already exist using gnome
or kde.
Indeed, unless you can
Ravenlock wrote:
First, lets get in the correct mindset. We are not asking people
to help with our E stuff. The goal of SoC is to help students
learn and to create more open source code. Google is not putting
up bounties for things *we* want done. Google is gonna pay a few
On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 11:32 AM, Vincent Torri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, 27 Feb 2008, Nicolas Aguirre wrote:
On 2/27/08, Vincent Torri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think that we should add evas filters. It should be very interresting for
student (study of the internal
As Jorge wants us to reply, here is my answer
On Thu, 28 Feb 2008, Jorge Luis Zapata Muga wrote:
Enesim:
This library started as a direct rendering gfx library, but a very
generic one, with no context; this decision was made to allow
different libraries built on top of enesim to define
Ian wrote:
Alright I've taken this summer of code research a bit further
apparently we're not blacklisted in anyway. The reason we were not
accepted last year is that our application was a bit suboptimal
and the ideas list was poor we didn't elaborate enough on the
ideas what they
well considering applications need to be in by when it starts which is
like march 3rd we don't have a lot of time...
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ian wrote:
Alright I've taken this summer of code research a bit further
apparently we're not blacklisted in anyway. The reason we were not
March 3rd is when they start accepting applications. The deadline is March 12th.
On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 6:46 PM, Ian C. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
well considering applications need to be in by when it starts which is
like march 3rd we don't have a lot of time...
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
you're correct but if we want to be selected we need to get it in as
soon as possible. the closer the March 3rd the better.
Nathan Ingersoll wrote:
March 3rd is when they start accepting applications. The deadline is March
12th.
On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 6:46 PM, Ian C. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 02/28/2008 22:14, Ian C. wrote:
you're correct but if we want to be selected we need to get it in as
soon as possible. the closer the March 3rd the better.
I agree. There is terribly little time to get organized here.
I've added another page dedicated to just ideas and their descriptions.
On 2/27/08, Vincent Torri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hey,
I have added some ideas in the wiki:
* finishing the win32 port
* adding codec support
* writing a presentation tool (handful for those who will talk in some
conf :)
* writing an evince-like prog in full edje
I think that we
On Wed, 27 Feb 2008, Nicolas Aguirre wrote:
On 2/27/08, Vincent Torri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think that we should add evas filters. It should be very interresting for
student (study of the internal behaviour of evas, interresting algorithm to
perfmorm different filters...).
Rotation,
Vincent wrote:
I think that we should add evas filters. It should be very
interresting for student (study of the internal behaviour of evas,
interresting algorithm to perfmorm different filters...).
Rotation, perspective, reflection can be a good beginning and
maybe add
Alright I've taken this summer of code research a bit further apparently
we're not blacklisted in anyway. The reason we were not accepted last
year is that our application was a bit suboptimal and the ideas list was
poor we didn't elaborate enough on the ideas what they were. It wasn't
clear
Michael wrote:
about these suggestions, would it be interesting to add them in
the trac main page ?
My point is that I think suggestions might be jumping the gun
a bit, unless the sheer volume of suggestions might help reverse
our previous poor fortune.
Step #1: Get accepted
On Tuesday, 26 February 2008, at 20:07:01 (+),
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Actually, I have one that likely others have felt as well: eterm on
new efl libs, or just various ideas for eterm that people might
think of. Eterm is one of the great, classic e apps that many love
and rave about..
As far as suggestions go, here's my 2 cents:
1. evas filters. That was explained in more detail in previous emails
from this thread.
1.5 Bringing the evas gl engine up to standard.
2. A terminal application using efl (specifically edje, for themes,
utf-8 support and tabs). Since kainx already
On Tuesday, 26 February 2008, at 22:44:21 (+0200),
Viktor Kojouharov wrote:
2. A terminal application using efl (specifically edje, for themes,
utf-8 support and tabs). Since kainx already mentioned that eterm
would require a major rewrite in order to support utf-8, there might
as well be
Is there a dedicated person we should send the email to? Or just email the
list? Sorry, not familiar with the etiquette here.
Thanks,
Jess
On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 12:25:18PM -0800, Michael Jennings wrote:
On Tuesday, 26 February 2008, at 20:07:01 (+),
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Jess wrote:
Is there a dedicated person we should send the email to?
Or just email the list? Sorry, not familiar with the etiquette here.
For greater exposure, feedback, etc. the list here would
clearly be best.
This is something that people here have to build
Jess wrote:
Is there a dedicated person we should send the email to? Or just email the
list? Sorry, not familiar with the etiquette here.
Recording them into wiki.enlightenment.org would probably be the best
bet. A much more stable and easy to use record then the mailing list.
dan
Hey,
I have added some ideas in the wiki:
* finishing the win32 port
* adding codec support
* writing a presentation tool (handful for those who will talk in some conf :)
* writing an evince-like prog in full edje
i wanted to add a xenon 2 clone, but the problem is artwork and maybe does
not
Hey,
Google has announce its summer of code in 2008 [1]. I know that raster has
contacted them to participate in the previous SoC and they refused.
But, now that some companies are using the efl, maybe one should ask them
again, so that students can work on the projects these companies are
On Mon, 25 Feb 2008, Vincent Torri wrote:
Google has announce its summer of code in 2008 [1]. I know that raster has
contacted them to participate in the previous SoC and they refused.
But, now that some companies are using the efl, maybe one should ask them
again, so that students can
On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 11:54 AM, Vincent Torri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, 25 Feb 2008, Vincent Torri wrote:
Google has announce its summer of code in 2008 [1]. I know that raster has
contacted them to participate in the previous SoC and they refused.
But, now that some
On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 2:58 PM, Sthithaprajna Garapaty
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 11:54 AM, Vincent Torri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, 25 Feb 2008, Vincent Torri wrote:
Google has announce its summer of code in 2008 [1]. I know that raster
has
On Mon, 25 Feb 2008, Michael Jennings wrote:
On Monday, 25 February 2008, at 15:04:05 (-0300),
Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote:
I'd say evas filters, that includes rotation but also shear, blur,
perspective, ...
Another idea is new backends, like DirectFB ;-), Cairo, Clutter (?),
On Monday, 25 February 2008, at 19:14:31 (+0100),
Vincent Torri wrote:
about these suggestions, would it be interesting to add them in the
trac main page ?
My point is that I think suggestions might be jumping the gun a bit,
unless the sheer volume of suggestions might help reverse our
On Monday, 25 February 2008, at 15:04:05 (-0300),
Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote:
I'd say evas filters, that includes rotation but also shear, blur,
perspective, ...
Another idea is new backends, like DirectFB ;-), Cairo, Clutter (?),
OpenGL/ES, OpenVG.
Yet another idea is to help with
Vincent Torri wrote:
about these suggestions, would it be interesting to add them in the trac
main page ?
I think wiki.enlightenment.org would make more sense then trac.
dan
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On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 12:08 PM, Michael Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
However, given that we've been shot down every year so far, I think
the key question for us to address here is: How do we avoid getting
shot down again?
Once we know we're eligible, I think there's more than
Judging by the participants from previous years, I think we are quite
eligible from a project design point of view. IMHO, we should ask
raster, since he was in contact with the google guys before, for
specifics on why we were denied.
Though, having solid proposals is certainly a must.
В 12:41
After some discussion on IRC:
- Going with EFL might be better. As Nathan said it's far more
original in that space than in the window manager space.
- Someone need to stand as the SoC guy. He's not the one that
would have to do everything, but would be responsible to peek other
people
Here is an example of an organizations Ideas page that might help get
things rolling:
http://www.x.org/wiki/SummerOfCodeIdeas
On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 2:17 PM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
After some discussion on IRC:
- Going with EFL might be better. As Nathan said
On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 21:21:15 +0200 Виктор Кожухаров [EMAIL PROTECTED]
babbled:
Judging by the participants from previous years, I think we are quite
eligible from a project design point of view. IMHO, we should ask
raster, since he was in contact with the google guys before, for
specifics on
On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 13:23:06 -0500 dan sinclair [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:
Vincent Torri wrote:
about these suggestions, would it be interesting to add them in the trac
main page ?
I think wiki.enlightenment.org would make more sense then trac.
better than in the mailing list :) though
On Monday, 25 February 2008, at 12:41:37 (-0600),
Nathan Ingersoll wrote:
I think the key thing will be to come in with some strong proposals.
In previous years I don't think we had anything concrete when the
deadline came.
If folks think that's the best approach, then by all means, let's get
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
better than in the mailing list :) though trac is also a wiki... :) but as
such
the trac stuff is for more of an official todo list. SoC stuff is right now
just banter :)
Is this were I resist the urge to mention that having two wiki's seems
silly?
On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 3:30 PM, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
i have no interest in trying to change their opinion. in the end i think they
see e as a wm - some bizarre corner-case wm that no one cares about anymore
as
everyone uses gnome or kde, and since e17
On 02/25/2008 19:45, Michael Jennings wrote:
On Monday, 25 February 2008, at 12:41:37 (-0600),
Nathan Ingersoll wrote:
I think the key thing will be to come in with some strong proposals.
In previous years I don't think we had anything concrete when the
deadline came.
If folks think
On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 20:51:40 -0600 Nathan Ingersoll [EMAIL PROTECTED]
babbled:
On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 3:30 PM, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
i have no interest in trying to change their opinion. in the end i think
they see e as a wm - some bizarre corner-case
there were no specifics on why we were denied beyond a vague
we don't think you are a worthy/valid/interesting open source
project.
That would be their right to decide of course, and a natural
view for them since e has so-far shown little interest in web related
'technologies' whereas
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