Re: [E-devel] HEADER SIZE POLL RESULTS

2011-08-12 Thread Tom Hacohen
On 13/08/11 07:04, Lucas De Marchi wrote: > It was over discussed in the mailing list... there was no reason to > make yet another thread with plenty of arguments for each side. Not everyone followed/commented on those threads. I know I haven't. Generally, I bet people that liked the way it was we

Re: [E-devel] HEADER SIZE POLL RESULTS

2011-08-12 Thread Lucas De Marchi
On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 3:03 AM, Tom Hacohen wrote: > > On 12/08/11 07:08, Mike Blumenkrantz wrote: > > POLL OVER. > > > > Results: > > 2 votes: #1 - LEAVE AS-IS, CONTINUE ADDING DOCS TO Elementary.h > > 9 votes: #2 - SPLIT INTO WIDGET HEADERS SIMILAR TO EINA > > 5 votes: #3 - OTHER (put docs back

Re: [E-devel] HEADER SIZE POLL RESULTS

2011-08-11 Thread Tom Hacohen
On 12/08/11 07:08, Mike Blumenkrantz wrote: > POLL OVER. > > Results: > 2 votes: #1 - LEAVE AS-IS, CONTINUE ADDING DOCS TO Elementary.h > 9 votes: #2 - SPLIT INTO WIDGET HEADERS SIMILAR TO EINA > 5 votes: #3 - OTHER (put docs back in C files) > > Executive Summary: > WINNER - #2 (SPLIT INTO WIDGE

Re: [E-devel] HEADER SIZE POLL RESULTS

2011-08-11 Thread Daniel Juyung Seo
;m...@zentific.com> > To: > enlightenment-de...@lists.sourceforge.netenlightenment-devellists.sourceforge.net > Cc: > Sent: 11-08-12(금) 13:08:07 > Subject: [E-devel] HEADER SIZE POLL RESULTS > POLL OVER. > Results: > 2 votes: #1 - LEAVE AS-IS, CONTINUE ADDING DOCS TO E

Re: [E-devel] HEADER SIZE POLL RESULTS

2011-08-11 Thread ChunEon Park
rge.net Cc: Sent: 11-08-12(금) 13:08:07 Subject: [E-devel] HEADER SIZE POLL RESULTS POLL OVER. Results: 2 votes: #1 - LEAVE AS-IS, CONTINUE ADDING DOCS TO Elementary.h 9 votes: #2 - SPLIT INTO WIDGET HEADERS SIMILAR TO EINA 5 votes: #3 - OTHER (put docs back in C files) Executive Summary: WINNER -

[E-devel] HEADER SIZE POLL RESULTS

2011-08-11 Thread Mike Blumenkrantz
POLL OVER. Results: 2 votes: #1 - LEAVE AS-IS, CONTINUE ADDING DOCS TO Elementary.h 9 votes: #2 - SPLIT INTO WIDGET HEADERS SIMILAR TO EINA 5 votes: #3 - OTHER (put docs back in C files) Executive Summary: WINNER - #2 (SPLIT INTO WIDGET HEADERS SIMILAR TO EINA) -- Mike Blumenkrantz Zentific: Cod

Re: [E-devel] HEADER SIZE POLL

2011-08-05 Thread Gustavo Barbieri
On 05/08/2011, at 05:28, Lucas De Marchi wrote: > On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 3:17 PM, Iván Briano (Sachiel) > wrote: >> Since this subject is annoying, I will also be annoying by top-posting. >> >> I like my docs in the .c files, and keep in the .h whatever is needed to >> be there only. If needed,

Re: [E-devel] HEADER SIZE POLL

2011-08-04 Thread Lucas De Marchi
On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 3:17 PM, Iván Briano (Sachiel) wrote: > Since this subject is annoying, I will also be annoying by top-posting. > > I like my docs in the .c files, and keep in the .h whatever is needed to > be there only. If needed, doxygen even supports having docs in some > other random

Re: [E-devel] HEADER SIZE POLL

2011-08-04 Thread Sanjeev BA
My vote is for #1. I like the idea of having a single point of reference. On 08/05/2011 07:30 AM, Mike Blumenkrantz wrote: > On Thu, 28 Jul 2011 12:42:32 -0400 > Mike Blumenkrantz wrote: > >> This is a community project, so we can do stuff like having polls and taking >> votes right? Okay then, s

Re: [E-devel] HEADER SIZE POLL

2011-08-04 Thread Daniel Juyung Seo
Thanks stu! I raised header separation issues a couple of times but there was no progress. This time I hope we will get some good result. Anyhow, I vote for #2 and #3-vtorri's. Elementary.h is already so huge, so any solution will be still annoying. I just choose LESS ANNOYING solution. Thanks.

Re: [E-devel] HEADER SIZE POLL

2011-08-04 Thread Mike Blumenkrantz
On Thu, 28 Jul 2011 12:42:32 -0400 Mike Blumenkrantz wrote: > This is a community project, so we can do stuff like having polls and taking > votes right? Okay then, since there's been some disagreement with strong > opinions on either side we're voting on a super important issue - header size. >

Re: [E-devel] header size...

2011-08-02 Thread ChunEon Park
ghtenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: 11-08-02(화) 18:50:01 Subject: Re: [E-devel] header size...On 31/07/11 16:20, Tom Hacohen wrote: > Yeah, I know, and I think what I did should have triggered it, doesn't > it? I also tried doing: "edje_cc ../../../tmp/../tmp/edje/bla.edc"

Re: [E-devel] header size...

2011-08-02 Thread Tom Hacohen
On 31/07/11 16:20, Tom Hacohen wrote: > Yeah, I know, and I think what I did should have triggered it, doesn't > it? I also tried doing: "edje_cc ../../../tmp/../tmp/edje/bla.edc" which > also didn't trigger it. > > Seems to me that it's fixed now... > Ok, I split default.edc, according to my tes

Re: [E-devel] header size...

2011-08-01 Thread Daniel Juyung Seo
so the topic has been changed successfully :) i prefer separating edc as well though. Daniel Juyung Seo (SeoZ) On Jul 31, 2011 10:19 PM, "Tom Hacohen" wrote: > On 31/07/11 16:15, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: >> when using form makefiles and we have $(top_srcdir) and other such fun in t

Re: [E-devel] header size...

2011-07-31 Thread Tom Hacohen
On 31/07/11 16:15, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > when using form makefiles and we have $(top_srcdir) and other such fun in the > past i found it made files that edje_decc doesnt like as all the relative > paths > make it think theres a security violation (try to write file outside of d

Re: [E-devel] header size...

2011-07-31 Thread The Rasterman
On Sun, 31 Jul 2011 11:23:02 +0300 Tom Hacohen said: > On 29/07/11 17:46, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > > it already tries. :) > > > > WFM. > > I created a dir called: /tmp/edje > inside I created bla.edc and emo-unhappy.png. > I created the edj using: > edje_cc bla.edc -id ../../..

Re: [E-devel] header size...

2011-07-31 Thread Tom Hacohen
On 29/07/11 17:46, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > it already tries. :) > WFM. I created a dir called: /tmp/edje inside I created bla.edc and emo-unhappy.png. I created the edj using: edje_cc bla.edc -id ../../../../tmp/../tmp/edje/ and then decompiled using: edje_decc bla.edj. Every

Re: [E-devel] header size...

2011-07-31 Thread Tom Hacohen
On 29/07/11 17:46, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > it already tries. :) If at first you don't succeed, try, try, and try again... -- Tom. -- Got Input? Slashdot Needs You. Take our quick survey online. Com

Re: [E-devel] header size...

2011-07-29 Thread The Rasterman
On Fri, 29 Jul 2011 15:01:52 +0300 Tom Hacohen said: > On 29/07/11 14:25, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > > edje_decc then breaks if we start using includes. > > That can be solved simply by normalizing the path, will take a look > tomorrow. it already tries. :) -- - Cod

Re: [E-devel] header size...

2011-07-29 Thread Tom Hacohen
On 29/07/11 14:25, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > edje_decc then breaks if we start using includes. That can be solved simply by normalizing the path, will take a look tomorrow. -- Tom. -- Got Input? Slashdo

Re: [E-devel] HEADER SIZE POLL

2011-07-29 Thread The Rasterman
On Thu, 28 Jul 2011 12:42:32 -0400 Mike Blumenkrantz said: > This is a community project, so we can do stuff like having polls and taking > votes right? Okay then, since there's been some disagreement with strong > opinions on either side we're voting on a super important issue - header size. > S

Re: [E-devel] header size...

2011-07-29 Thread The Rasterman
On Fri, 29 Jul 2011 10:15:40 +0300 Tom Hacohen said: > On 29/07/11 03:37, Bruno Dilly wrote: > > On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 7:53 PM, Mike Blumenkrantz > > wrote: > >> On Fri, 29 Jul 2011 00:38:50 +0200 > >> Hugo Camboulive wrote: > >> > >>> Really you're worried about the approaching 20k lines of

Re: [E-devel] HEADER SIZE POLL

2011-07-29 Thread Boris Faure
On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 20:17, Iván Briano (Sachiel) wrote: > Since this subject is annoying, I will also be annoying by top-posting. > > I like my docs in the .c files, and keep in the .h whatever is needed to > be there only. If needed, doxygen even supports having docs in some > other random fi

Re: [E-devel] header size...

2011-07-29 Thread Tom Hacohen
On 29/07/11 03:37, Bruno Dilly wrote: > On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 7:53 PM, Mike Blumenkrantz wrote: >> On Fri, 29 Jul 2011 00:38:50 +0200 >> Hugo Camboulive wrote: >> >>> Really you're worried about the approaching 20k lines of a header? >>> Please have a look at the 37k lines of the default.edc...

Re: [E-devel] header size...

2011-07-28 Thread ChunEon Park
ntz"<m...@zentific.com> Cc: enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: 11-07-29(금) 09:37:44 Subject: Re: [E-devel] header size...On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 7:53 PM, Mike Blumenkrantz <m...@zentific.com> wrote: > On Fri, 29 Jul 2011 00:38:50 +0200 > Hugo Camboulive <hugo.camboul..

Re: [E-devel] header size...

2011-07-28 Thread Bruno Dilly
On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 7:53 PM, Mike Blumenkrantz wrote: > On Fri, 29 Jul 2011 00:38:50 +0200 > Hugo Camboulive wrote: > >> Really you're worried about the approaching 20k lines of a header? >> Please have a look at the 37k lines of the default.edc... that baby is 1.1MB >> of raw text, and conta

Re: [E-devel] HEADER SIZE POLL

2011-07-28 Thread Brian Wang
On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 12:42 AM, Mike Blumenkrantz wrote: > This is a community project, so we can do stuff like having polls and taking > votes right? Okay then, since there's been some disagreement with strong > opinions on either side we're voting on a super important issue - header size. > Sp

Re: [E-devel] header size...

2011-07-28 Thread Mike Blumenkrantz
On Fri, 29 Jul 2011 00:38:50 +0200 Hugo Camboulive wrote: > Really you're worried about the approaching 20k lines of a header? > Please have a look at the 37k lines of the default.edc... that baby is 1.1MB > of raw text, and contains every possible elementary widget. (there's a > little differenc

Re: [E-devel] header size...

2011-07-28 Thread Hugo Camboulive
Really you're worried about the approaching 20k lines of a header? Please have a look at the 37k lines of the default.edc... that baby is 1.1MB of raw text, and contains every possible elementary widget. (there's a little difference with the header though : this one is made of very few comments) :-

Re: [E-devel] HEADER SIZE POLL

2011-07-28 Thread Christopher Michael
On 07/28/2011 12:42 PM, Mike Blumenkrantz wrote: > This is a community project, so we can do stuff like having polls and taking > votes right? Okay then, since there's been some disagreement with strong > opinions on either side we're voting on a super important issue - header size. > Specifically,

Re: [E-devel] HEADER SIZE POLL

2011-07-28 Thread Vincent Torri
On Thu, 28 Jul 2011, Mike Blumenkrantz wrote: > This is a community project, so we can do stuff like having polls and taking > votes right? Okay then, since there's been some disagreement with strong > opinions on either side we're voting on a super important issue - header size. > Specifically,

Re: [E-devel] HEADER SIZE POLL

2011-07-28 Thread Sachiel
Since this subject is annoying, I will also be annoying by top-posting. I like my docs in the .c files, and keep in the .h whatever is needed to be there only. If needed, doxygen even supports having docs in some other random file, but I like headers to be as small and packed as possible so the en

Re: [E-devel] HEADER SIZE POLL

2011-07-28 Thread Mike Blumenkrantz
On Thu, 28 Jul 2011 20:22:51 +0300 Tom Hacohen wrote: > On 28/07/11 19:42, Mike Blumenkrantz wrote: > > This is a community project, so we can do stuff like having polls and taking > > votes right? Okay then, since there's been some disagreement with strong > > opinions on either side we're votin

Re: [E-devel] header size...

2011-07-28 Thread David Seikel
As per Mikes request, moving the discussion part to this thread. > On 28/07/11 19:42, Mike Blumenkrantz wrote: > > This is a community project, so we can do stuff like having polls > > and taking votes right? Okay then, since there's been some > > disagreement with strong opinions on either side w

Re: [E-devel] HEADER SIZE POLL

2011-07-28 Thread Tom Hacohen
On 28/07/11 19:42, Mike Blumenkrantz wrote: > This is a community project, so we can do stuff like having polls and taking > votes right? Okay then, since there's been some disagreement with strong > opinions on either side we're voting on a super important issue - header size. > Specifically, the

Re: [E-devel] HEADER SIZE POLL

2011-07-28 Thread David Seikel
On Thu, 28 Jul 2011 12:42:32 -0400 Mike Blumenkrantz wrote: > 1) LEAVE AS-IS, CONTINUE ADDING DOCS TO Elementary.h > 2) SPLIT INTO WIDGET HEADERS SIMILAR TO EINA > 3) OTHER (Explain) 2 gets my vote. > PS. I expect all active developers to vote on this, even if you do > not have a strong opinion

Re: [E-devel] HEADER SIZE POLL

2011-07-28 Thread Cedric BAIL
On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 6:42 PM, Mike Blumenkrantz wrote: > This is a community project, so we can do stuff like having polls and taking > votes right? Okay then, since there's been some disagreement with strong > opinions on either side we're voting on a super important issue - header size. > Spe

[E-devel] HEADER SIZE POLL

2011-07-28 Thread Mike Blumenkrantz
This is a community project, so we can do stuff like having polls and taking votes right? Okay then, since there's been some disagreement with strong opinions on either side we're voting on a super important issue - header size. Specifically, the Elementary.h header. As with any serious vote, here

Re: [E-devel] header size...

2011-07-26 Thread The Rasterman
On Tue, 26 Jul 2011 17:42:26 -0400 Mike Blumenkrantz said: docs in headers stay there and get expanded. > On Sun, 17 Jul 2011 21:39:50 +0900 > Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > > > On Sat, 16 Jul 2011 09:23:45 -0400 Mike Blumenkrantz > > said: > > > > > With the recent infusion (prof

Re: [E-devel] header size...

2011-07-26 Thread ChunEon Park
ceforge.net Cc: Sent: 11-07-27(수) 06:57:43 Subject: Re: [E-devel] header size...On 07/26/11 17:42, Mike Blumenkrantz wrote: > On Sun, 17 Jul 2011 21:39:50 +0900 > Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman)<ras...@rasterman.com> wrote: > >> On Sat, 16 Jul 2011 09:23:45 -0400 Mik

Re: [E-devel] header size...

2011-07-26 Thread Christopher Michael
On 07/26/11 17:42, Mike Blumenkrantz wrote: > On Sun, 17 Jul 2011 21:39:50 +0900 > Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > >> On Sat, 16 Jul 2011 09:23:45 -0400 Mike Blumenkrantz >> said: >> >>> With the recent infusion (profusion?) of documentation, our header sizes >>> have become, imo, WAAA

Re: [E-devel] header size...

2011-07-26 Thread Sachiel
2011/7/26 Mike Blumenkrantz : > On Sun, 17 Jul 2011 21:39:50 +0900 > Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > >> On Sat, 16 Jul 2011 09:23:45 -0400 Mike Blumenkrantz >> said: >> >> > With the recent infusion (profusion?) of documentation, our header sizes >> > have become, imo, WAAY too big

Re: [E-devel] header size...

2011-07-26 Thread Mike Blumenkrantz
On Sun, 17 Jul 2011 21:39:50 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > On Sat, 16 Jul 2011 09:23:45 -0400 Mike Blumenkrantz said: > > > With the recent infusion (profusion?) of documentation, our header sizes > > have become, imo, WAAY too big. They are entirely impossible to > > navi

Re: [E-devel] header size...

2011-07-22 Thread Mike Blumenkrantz
On Fri, 22 Jul 2011 14:41:58 +0200 (CEST) Vincent Torri wrote: > > > On Fri, 22 Jul 2011, Iván Briano (Sachiel) wrote: > > > 2011/7/22 Daniel Juyung Seo : > >> Right. Finish documentation first. > >> > >> Just curious, I checked Elementary.h.in. > >> It has 13298 lines now :) > >> But it'll be

Re: [E-devel] header size...

2011-07-22 Thread Vincent Torri
On Fri, 22 Jul 2011, Iván Briano (Sachiel) wrote: 2011/7/22 Daniel Juyung Seo : Right. Finish documentation first. Just curious, I checked Elementary.h.in. It has 13298 lines now :) But it'll be so much longer once genlist documentation is moved to header. genlist has 82 APIs :) Stop bitc

Re: [E-devel] header size...

2011-07-22 Thread Sachiel
2011/7/22 Daniel Juyung Seo : > Right. Finish documentation first. > > Just curious, I checked Elementary.h.in. > It has 13298 lines now :) > But it'll be so much longer once genlist documentation is moved to header. > genlist has 82 APIs :) > Stop bitching about header sizes, we can always just b

Re: [E-devel] header size...

2011-07-22 Thread Daniel Juyung Seo
Right. Finish documentation first. Just curious, I checked Elementary.h.in. It has 13298 lines now :) But it'll be so much longer once genlist documentation is moved to header. genlist has 82 APIs :) Daniel Juyung Seo (SeoZ) On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 7:50 PM, Vincent Torri wrote: > > > On Wed, 20

Re: [E-devel] header size...

2011-07-20 Thread Vincent Torri
On Wed, 20 Jul 2011, Daniel Juyung Seo wrote: Hi Mike, This is why I raised elementary header separation topic. http://www.mail-archive.com/enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net/msg31764.html I found that reading a big elementary header was so painful. But we concluded that we're gonna us

Re: [E-devel] header size...

2011-07-20 Thread Daniel Juyung Seo
Hi Mike, This is why I raised elementary header separation topic. http://www.mail-archive.com/enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net/msg31764.html I found that reading a big elementary header was so painful. But we concluded that we're gonna use one header for elementary. So we're just followin

Re: [E-devel] header size...

2011-07-17 Thread Vincent Torri
On Sun, 17 Jul 2011, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > On Sat, 16 Jul 2011 09:23:45 -0400 Mike Blumenkrantz said: > >> With the recent infusion (profusion?) of documentation, our header sizes have >> become, imo, WAAY too big. They are entirely impossible to navigate, and >> this is

Re: [E-devel] header size...

2011-07-17 Thread The Rasterman
On Sat, 16 Jul 2011 09:23:45 -0400 Mike Blumenkrantz said: > With the recent infusion (profusion?) of documentation, our header sizes have > become, imo, WAAY too big. They are entirely impossible to navigate, and > this is a problem that will only get worse. > > As an example, the elm .h fi

[E-devel] header size...

2011-07-16 Thread Mike Blumenkrantz
With the recent infusion (profusion?) of documentation, our header sizes have become, imo, WAAY too big. They are entirely impossible to navigate, and this is a problem that will only get worse. As an example, the elm .h file is over 10k lines already, and I have to scroll quite a bit to find