[e-users] e-users] DR17, eterm (cust and paste) and bioapi usage

2006-12-03 Thread Berto
I love this one:
http://materm.sourceforge.net/wiki/

2006/12/2, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Hi,

 Tried gnome-terminal, even before I started using Konsole, did not like it
 at all, and it has the same problem as Konsole, my main reason for finally
 dumping it - too many dependancies.

 As an example :

 emerge -p konsole

 These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

 Calculating dependencies... done!
 [ebuild  N] app-dicts/aspell-en-0.51.1
 [ebuild U ] dev-libs/libxml2-2.6.26 [2.6.23] USE=-test%
 [ebuild  N] dev-libs/libgpg-error-1.0-r1  USE=nls
 [ebuild  N] dev-libs/libgcrypt-1.2.2-r1  USE=nls
 [ebuild  N] dev-libs/libxslt-1.1.17  USE=crypt python -debug
 [ebuild  N] net-misc/mDNSResponder-98
 [ebuild  N] net-dns/libidn-0.5.15  USE=nls -doc -emacs -java
 [ebuild  N] media-libs/libart_lgpl-2.3.17  USE=-debug
 [ebuild  N] app-admin/gamin-0.1.7  USE=-debug -doc
 [ebuild  N] kde-base/kdelibs-3.5.2-r6  USE=alsa arts cups spell ssl
 zeroconf -acl -debug -doc -jpeg2k -kdeenablefinal -kdehiddenvisibility
  -kerberos -legacyssl -openexr -tiff -xinerama
 [ebuild  N] kde-base/konsole-3.5.2-r1  USE=arts -debug -kdeenablefinal
  -kdehiddenvisibility -xinerama

 not tooo bad, takes only a day to compile.

 emerge -p gnome-terminal

 These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

 Calculating dependencies... done!
 [ebuild  N] gnome-base/libglade-2.5.1  USE=-debug -doc
 [ebuild  N] dev-libs/libIDL-0.8.6  USE=-debug -static
 [ebuild  N] gnome-base/orbit-2.14.0  USE=ssl -debug -doc -static
 [ebuild  N] gnome-base/gconf-2.14.0  USE=-debug -doc
 [ebuild  N] dev-python/pyopengl-2.0.0.44
 [ebuild  N] media-libs/libsvg-0.1.2
 [ebuild  N] x11-libs/libsvg-cairo-0.1.6
 [ebuild  N] dev-python/pycairo-1.0.2  USE=svg -gtk -numeric
 [ebuild  N] dev-python/numeric-23.7
 [ebuild  N] x11-libs/gtkglarea-1.99.0  USE=-debug
 [ebuild  N] dev-python/pygtk-2.8.6  USE=opengl -doc
 [ebuild  N] x11-libs/vte-0.12.2  USE=opengl python -debug -doc
 [ebuild  N] gnome-base/gnome-mime-data-2.4.2  USE=-debug
 [ebuild  N] gnome-base/libbonobo-2.14.0  USE=-debug -doc
 [ebuild  N] app-admin/gamin-0.1.7  USE=-debug -doc
 [ebuild  N] net-misc/neon-0.25.3  USE=ssl zlib -expat
 [ebuild  N] gnome-base/gnome-vfs-2.14.2  USE=ssl -avahi -debug -doc
  -gnutls -hal -ipv6 -samba
 [ebuild  N] app-text/sgml-common-0.6.3-r4
 [ebuild  N] app-text/build-docbook-catalog-1.2
 [ebuild  N] app-text/docbook-xsl-stylesheets-1.68.1-r1
 [ebuild  N] app-text/docbook-xml-dtd-4.1.2-r6
 [ebuild U ] dev-libs/libxml2-2.6.26 [2.6.23] USE=-test%
 [ebuild  N] dev-libs/libgpg-error-1.0-r1  USE=nls
 [ebuild  N] dev-libs/libgcrypt-1.2.2-r1  USE=nls
 [ebuild  N] dev-libs/libxslt-1.1.17  USE=crypt python -debug
 [ebuild  N] app-text/scrollkeeper-0.3.14-r2  USE=nls
 [ebuild  N] gnome-base/libgnome-2.14.1  USE=esd -debug -doc -static
 [ebuild  N] media-libs/libart_lgpl-2.3.17  USE=-debug
 [ebuild  N] gnome-base/libgnomecanvas-2.14.0  USE=X -debug -doc
  -static
 [ebuild  N] gnome-base/gnome-keyring-0.4.9  USE=-debug
 [ebuild  N] gnome-base/libbonoboui-2.14.0  USE=X -debug -doc
 [ebuild  N] gnome-base/libgnomeui-2.14.1  USE=jpeg -debug -doc
 [ebuild  N] x11-themes/hicolor-icon-theme-0.8
 [ebuild  N] x11-misc/icon-naming-utils-0.7.0
 [ebuild  N] x11-themes/gnome-icon-theme-2.14.2  USE=-debug
 [ebuild  N] x11-libs/startup-notification-0.8
 [ebuild  N] x11-terms/gnome-terminal-2.14.2  USE=-debug

 errrm, maybe wait around a 2 to 4 days, depending on how busy my processor
 is with other tasks...

 and finally eterm:

 emerge -p eterm

 These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

 Calculating dependencies... done!
 [ebuild  N] x11-libs/libast-0.7  USE=imlib mmx pcre
 [ebuild  N] x11-terms/eterm-0.9.3-r4  USE=mmx -escreen -etwin -unicode

 way less than an hour

 and most of all, eterm is fast fast fast, and used in conjuntion with
 screen, tabbed (plus more).

 I try to run as minimalistic as possible, so kde and gnome is out, mostly
 keyboard shortcuts, mouse only when needed.

 Lucas

 Mirek writes:

  I think eterm is very outdated, i am using gnome-terminal, Eterm doesnt
  support even UTF8 locales. But it has one big advantage, it is very fast,
  very very fast :)
 
  Mirek
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] napsal(a):
  Hi.
 
  New to this list, but not new to Enlightenment :)
 
  In the last week I had updated Enlightenment DR17 to the latest CVS.
 
  Firstly, things are just getting better and better...
 
  So I Finally decided to dump Konsole and remove all kde-base built
  packages from my system (using gentoo), and move onto eterm 0.9.3 (using
  screen, and the eterm escreen theme). LOVE IT, but ran into one major
  problem that is already causing me grief.
 
  In Konsole I could highlight text using mouse, right click =, and cut 'n
  paste this to 

Re: [e-users] e-users] DR17, eterm (cust and paste) and bioapi usage

2006-12-03 Thread lvs
Yep, that was on my shortlist, 

went through so many terminals in one night, looking for the right one, but 
when I found eterm and used it with screen once, I just stopped :) 

Lucas 


Berto writes: 

 I love this one:
 http://materm.sourceforge.net/wiki/ 
 
 2006/12/2, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Hi, 

 Tried gnome-terminal, even before I started using Konsole, did not like it
 at all, and it has the same problem as Konsole, my main reason for finally
 dumping it - too many dependancies. 

 As an example : 

 emerge -p konsole 

 These are the packages that would be merged, in order: 

 Calculating dependencies... done!
 [ebuild  N] app-dicts/aspell-en-0.51.1
 [ebuild U ] dev-libs/libxml2-2.6.26 [2.6.23] USE=-test%
 [ebuild  N] dev-libs/libgpg-error-1.0-r1  USE=nls
 [ebuild  N] dev-libs/libgcrypt-1.2.2-r1  USE=nls
 [ebuild  N] dev-libs/libxslt-1.1.17  USE=crypt python -debug
 [ebuild  N] net-misc/mDNSResponder-98
 [ebuild  N] net-dns/libidn-0.5.15  USE=nls -doc -emacs -java
 [ebuild  N] media-libs/libart_lgpl-2.3.17  USE=-debug
 [ebuild  N] app-admin/gamin-0.1.7  USE=-debug -doc
 [ebuild  N] kde-base/kdelibs-3.5.2-r6  USE=alsa arts cups spell ssl
 zeroconf -acl -debug -doc -jpeg2k -kdeenablefinal -kdehiddenvisibility
  -kerberos -legacyssl -openexr -tiff -xinerama
 [ebuild  N] kde-base/konsole-3.5.2-r1  USE=arts -debug -kdeenablefinal
  -kdehiddenvisibility -xinerama 

 not tooo bad, takes only a day to compile. 

 emerge -p gnome-terminal 

 These are the packages that would be merged, in order: 

 Calculating dependencies... done!
 [ebuild  N] gnome-base/libglade-2.5.1  USE=-debug -doc
 [ebuild  N] dev-libs/libIDL-0.8.6  USE=-debug -static
 [ebuild  N] gnome-base/orbit-2.14.0  USE=ssl -debug -doc -static
 [ebuild  N] gnome-base/gconf-2.14.0  USE=-debug -doc
 [ebuild  N] dev-python/pyopengl-2.0.0.44
 [ebuild  N] media-libs/libsvg-0.1.2
 [ebuild  N] x11-libs/libsvg-cairo-0.1.6
 [ebuild  N] dev-python/pycairo-1.0.2  USE=svg -gtk -numeric
 [ebuild  N] dev-python/numeric-23.7
 [ebuild  N] x11-libs/gtkglarea-1.99.0  USE=-debug
 [ebuild  N] dev-python/pygtk-2.8.6  USE=opengl -doc
 [ebuild  N] x11-libs/vte-0.12.2  USE=opengl python -debug -doc
 [ebuild  N] gnome-base/gnome-mime-data-2.4.2  USE=-debug
 [ebuild  N] gnome-base/libbonobo-2.14.0  USE=-debug -doc
 [ebuild  N] app-admin/gamin-0.1.7  USE=-debug -doc
 [ebuild  N] net-misc/neon-0.25.3  USE=ssl zlib -expat
 [ebuild  N] gnome-base/gnome-vfs-2.14.2  USE=ssl -avahi -debug -doc
  -gnutls -hal -ipv6 -samba
 [ebuild  N] app-text/sgml-common-0.6.3-r4
 [ebuild  N] app-text/build-docbook-catalog-1.2
 [ebuild  N] app-text/docbook-xsl-stylesheets-1.68.1-r1
 [ebuild  N] app-text/docbook-xml-dtd-4.1.2-r6
 [ebuild U ] dev-libs/libxml2-2.6.26 [2.6.23] USE=-test%
 [ebuild  N] dev-libs/libgpg-error-1.0-r1  USE=nls
 [ebuild  N] dev-libs/libgcrypt-1.2.2-r1  USE=nls
 [ebuild  N] dev-libs/libxslt-1.1.17  USE=crypt python -debug
 [ebuild  N] app-text/scrollkeeper-0.3.14-r2  USE=nls
 [ebuild  N] gnome-base/libgnome-2.14.1  USE=esd -debug -doc -static
 [ebuild  N] media-libs/libart_lgpl-2.3.17  USE=-debug
 [ebuild  N] gnome-base/libgnomecanvas-2.14.0  USE=X -debug -doc
  -static
 [ebuild  N] gnome-base/gnome-keyring-0.4.9  USE=-debug
 [ebuild  N] gnome-base/libbonoboui-2.14.0  USE=X -debug -doc
 [ebuild  N] gnome-base/libgnomeui-2.14.1  USE=jpeg -debug -doc
 [ebuild  N] x11-themes/hicolor-icon-theme-0.8
 [ebuild  N] x11-misc/icon-naming-utils-0.7.0
 [ebuild  N] x11-themes/gnome-icon-theme-2.14.2  USE=-debug
 [ebuild  N] x11-libs/startup-notification-0.8
 [ebuild  N] x11-terms/gnome-terminal-2.14.2  USE=-debug 

 errrm, maybe wait around a 2 to 4 days, depending on how busy my processor
 is with other tasks... 

 and finally eterm: 

 emerge -p eterm 

 These are the packages that would be merged, in order: 

 Calculating dependencies... done!
 [ebuild  N] x11-libs/libast-0.7  USE=imlib mmx pcre
 [ebuild  N] x11-terms/eterm-0.9.3-r4  USE=mmx -escreen -etwin -unicode 

 way less than an hour 

 and most of all, eterm is fast fast fast, and used in conjuntion with
 screen, tabbed (plus more). 

 I try to run as minimalistic as possible, so kde and gnome is out, mostly
 keyboard shortcuts, mouse only when needed. 

 Lucas 

 Mirek writes: 

  I think eterm is very outdated, i am using gnome-terminal, Eterm doesnt
  support even UTF8 locales. But it has one big advantage, it is very fast,
  very very fast :)
 
  Mirek
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] napsal(a):
  Hi.
 
  New to this list, but not new to Enlightenment :)
 
  In the last week I had updated Enlightenment DR17 to the latest CVS.
 
  Firstly, things are just getting better and better...
 
  So I Finally decided to dump Konsole and remove all kde-base built
  packages from my system (using gentoo), and move onto 

Re: [e-users] DR17, eterm (cust and paste) and bioapi usage

2006-12-03 Thread lvs
You know, I am asking myself the same question


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   on 02.12.2006 - 15:25 (-0700 Zulu-Time):

 Brilliant

 Many thanks, being able to cut and paste from my terminals is gonna save
 me
 lots of time.

 I'm just wondering... this is the default behaviour of nearly all unix*
 software... except openoffice :( . How could you not know that ;)

 It's one of the big adaventages ;)

 cheers -- erik

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Re: [e-users] New e16 crashes on left click to desktop.

2006-12-03 Thread Kim Woelders
Mark R. Bowyer wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Very busy right now - and not near the machine I can test this on.  But
 on my Solaris laptop (running an older e16 release) I see:
 
   :
 UCS-2BE (UCS-2BE, UCS_2BE, UCS2BE), UCS-2LE (UCS-2LE, UCS_2LE,
 UCS2LE),
 UCS-4 (UCS-4, UCS_4, UCS4), UCS-4BE (UCS-4BE, UCS_4BE, UCS4BE),
 UCS-4LE (UCS-4LE, UCS_4LE, UCS4LE), UTF-16 (UTF-16, UTF16, UTF_16),
   :
 
 in response to iconv -l.  So it *should* work?
 
Yeah, I guess it will. I committed the fix to use UCS-4 in stead of 
WCHAR_T. Please let me know if it doesn't work.

Thanks,
/Kim

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Re: [e-users] xte from Xautomation not working

2006-12-03 Thread Andreas Volz
Am Sat, 2 Dec 2006 10:01:02 +0900 schrieb Carsten Haitzler (The
Rasterman):

 On Tue, 28 Nov 2006 19:31:08 +0100 Andreas Volz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 babbled:
 
  Hi,
  
  if I call xte (e.g. xte 'key X') from the Terminal or the E17
  Command Dialog it works. But if I run xte with keybinding Defined
  Command it does simply not work. Could anyone help here?
 
 no idea - e just executes the command as given and will redirect
 stdout/err/in to itself to capture error logs etc.

Is there a difference between how E17 keybindings and the Command
Dialog run a app? Because there is works.

Other xte command that controls the mouse are working in E17. Perhaps
it's really a problem that E captures the stdin/err/out. Could I
configure E _not_ to capture it?

Or do you've a better idea how to use the some keys on my multimedia
keyboard that control some apps.

I read here about how to configure my Cymotion keyboard for E17, but it
doesn't work (because of the xte problem):

http://gimpel.gi.funpic.de/Main/Home/_articles/11.html

regards
Andreas

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Re: [e-users] too big preview of virtual desktop setting dialog

2006-12-03 Thread Yasufumi Haga
On Sat, 25 Nov 2006 22:21:25 +0900,
   Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

| On Mon, 20 Nov 2006 13:32:38 +0900 (JST) Yasufumi Haga
| [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:
| 
|  This is a supplement.
|  This problem still seems to exist in the current e17.
|  It doesn't appear when running e17 without .e directory,
|  but when I keep customizing for the various settings,
|  the problem suddenly appears, though I can't figure out
|  what setting causes it yet.
| 
| Hmm - damn. If you figure out what causes it - let me know. I can't reproduce
| it here unfortunately :( dame dame dame!!! :(

I think I've finally found something about this problem.
First I updated all the EFLs and e17, and then restarted
e17 with the new one after deleting the existing .e
directory. Then I checked the virtual desktop setting
while customizing fontclasses one by one using the font
setting dialog.

When I enabled check buttons class and set 12-px kochi-gothic
to the class, this problem appeared. This is reproducible.


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Re: [e-users] xte from Xautomation not working

2006-12-03 Thread The Rasterman
On Sun, 3 Dec 2006 17:35:12 +0100 Andreas Volz [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:

 Am Sat, 2 Dec 2006 10:01:02 +0900 schrieb Carsten Haitzler (The
 Rasterman):
 
  On Tue, 28 Nov 2006 19:31:08 +0100 Andreas Volz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  babbled:
  
   Hi,
   
   if I call xte (e.g. xte 'key X') from the Terminal or the E17
   Command Dialog it works. But if I run xte with keybinding Defined
   Command it does simply not work. Could anyone help here?
  
  no idea - e just executes the command as given and will redirect
  stdout/err/in to itself to capture error logs etc.
 
 Is there a difference between how E17 keybindings and the Command
 Dialog run a app? Because there is works.
 
 Other xte command that controls the mouse are working in E17. Perhaps
 it's really a problem that E captures the stdin/err/out. Could I
 configure E _not_ to capture it?
 
 Or do you've a better idea how to use the some keys on my multimedia
 keyboard that control some apps.
 
 I read here about how to configure my Cymotion keyboard for E17, but it
 doesn't work (because of the xte problem):
 
 http://gimpel.gi.funpic.de/Main/Home/_articles/11.html

you are using the enlightenment_remote commands? have you thought that maybe
those keys (XF86Back for example) don't WORK on your keyboard layout setup and
that's why? have you tried using the gui to set them up? when you use the gui
it will CAPTURE the actual key pressed and thus get it right. e will let u bind
keys even if they have no symbols in the keymap as it will just bind the raw
keycode then. as long as the key produces a key press event the binding will
work and e will execute something (ie what you told it to).

 regards
 Andreas
 


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