Re: [e-users] SF SUCKS! WAS: Re: Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender

2015-08-06 Thread The Rasterman
On Thu, 06 Aug 2015 00:34:12 +0100 Bertrand Jacquin bertr...@jacquin.bzh said:

 Hi,
 
 On 22/07/2015 14:27, Tom Hacohen wrote:
  Sourceforge has been unstable for the last few months, with a few
  weeks (like this one) of it being very unstable/unusable. The list
  wasn't working for a few days.
 
 Even when giving them money when random ads of every mails.
 
  We already have the infra for running
  our own ML, maybe it's time we switch?
 
 Everything is up and running and we have all the scripts to smoothly 
 migrate everyone with no need for users to subscribe again.

every single person has to adjust filters. thats a lot of people adjusting
things (fixing whitelists etc.)

  Added our sysadmin beber to cc. Beber, anything to add?
 
 I would be more than happy for get ride of SF for emails.
 
 Let's do that. Give me a go and than can be done.

i'd rather hold off to avoid the above churn for users and filters.

 Cheers
 
  --
  Tom.
  
  
  On 22/07/15 13:35, Paul Cartwright wrote:
  +1 I also had a bounce.
  Hey Carsten, with all the crap[1,2] sf is up to these days, and now 
  this
  bounce for no good reason, don't you think it's really past time to
  ditch them as the list hosting service?
  
  [1]
  http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/05/sourceforge-grabs-gimp-for-windows-account-wraps-installer-in-bundle-pushing-adware/
  
  [2] http://seclists.org/nmap-dev/2015/q2/194
  
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Re: [e-users] SF SUCKS! WAS: Re: Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender

2015-08-05 Thread David Seikel
I for one am seriously considering moving all my projects off SF, but
I'm not in a hurry, and I haven't actually made the final decision
yet.  So I give a +0.5 to the idea of moving.

Having spent a lot of 2013 and 2014 migrating two really large projects
TO SourceForge, I'm really not happy with them right now.

On Thu, 06 Aug 2015 00:34:12 +0100 Bertrand Jacquin
bertr...@jacquin.bzh wrote:

 Hi,
 
 On 22/07/2015 14:27, Tom Hacohen wrote:
  Sourceforge has been unstable for the last few months, with a few
  weeks (like this one) of it being very unstable/unusable. The list
  wasn't working for a few days.
 
 Even when giving them money when random ads of every mails.
 
  We already have the infra for running
  our own ML, maybe it's time we switch?
 
 Everything is up and running and we have all the scripts to smoothly 
 migrate everyone with no need for users to subscribe again.
 
 
  Added our sysadmin beber to cc. Beber, anything to add?
 
 I would be more than happy for get ride of SF for emails.
 
 Let's do that. Give me a go and than can be done.
 
 Cheers
 
  --
  Tom.
  
  
  On 22/07/15 13:35, Paul Cartwright wrote:
  +1 I also had a bounce.
  Hey Carsten, with all the crap[1,2] sf is up to these days, and
  now this
  bounce for no good reason, don't you think it's really past time
  to ditch them as the list hosting service?
  
  [1]
  http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/05/sourceforge-grabs-gimp-for-windows-account-wraps-installer-in-bundle-pushing-adware/
  
  [2] http://seclists.org/nmap-dev/2015/q2/194
  
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Re: [e-users] SF SUCKS! WAS: Re: Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender

2015-08-05 Thread Bertrand Jacquin
Hi,

On 22/07/2015 14:27, Tom Hacohen wrote:
 Sourceforge has been unstable for the last few months, with a few
 weeks (like this one) of it being very unstable/unusable. The list
 wasn't working for a few days.

Even when giving them money when random ads of every mails.

 We already have the infra for running
 our own ML, maybe it's time we switch?

Everything is up and running and we have all the scripts to smoothly 
migrate everyone with no need for users to subscribe again.


 Added our sysadmin beber to cc. Beber, anything to add?

I would be more than happy for get ride of SF for emails.

Let's do that. Give me a go and than can be done.

Cheers

 --
 Tom.
 
 
 On 22/07/15 13:35, Paul Cartwright wrote:
 +1 I also had a bounce.
 Hey Carsten, with all the crap[1,2] sf is up to these days, and now 
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 bounce for no good reason, don't you think it's really past time to
 ditch them as the list hosting service?
 
 [1]
 http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/05/sourceforge-grabs-gimp-for-windows-account-wraps-installer-in-bundle-pushing-adware/
 
 [2] http://seclists.org/nmap-dev/2015/q2/194
 
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 Today the FPS: n.n overlay was on, and I did not turn it on. What 
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 was able to turn it off in compositor settings, (thanks herdsman) 
 but
 it's curious to me that it was on. Thoughts?
 
 --
 Regards,
 

[e-users] SF SUCKS! WAS: Re: Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender

2015-07-22 Thread Christopher Barry

Hey Carsten, with all the crap[1,2] sf is up to these days, and now this
bounce for no good reason, don't you think it's really past time to
ditch them as the list hosting service?

[1]
http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/05/sourceforge-grabs-gimp-for-windows-account-wraps-installer-in-bundle-pushing-adware/

[2] http://seclists.org/nmap-dev/2015/q2/194

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Today the FPS: n.n overlay was on, and I did not turn it on. What can
cause this debug display item to turn itself (or be turned) on? Could
an application set that on? I see nothing in the key/mouse/acpi
bindings that might have let me fat-finger a hotkey or something. I
was able to turn it off in compositor settings, (thanks herdsman) but
it's curious to me that it was on. Thoughts?

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Re: [e-users] SF SUCKS! WAS: Re: Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender

2015-07-22 Thread Paul Cartwright
+1 I also had a bounce.
 Hey Carsten, with all the crap[1,2] sf is up to these days, and now this
 bounce for no good reason, don't you think it's really past time to
 ditch them as the list hosting service?

 [1]
 http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/05/sourceforge-grabs-gimp-for-windows-account-wraps-installer-in-bundle-pushing-adware/

 [2] http://seclists.org/nmap-dev/2015/q2/194

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 was able to turn it off in compositor settings, (thanks herdsman) but
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Re: [e-users] SF SUCKS! WAS: Re: Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender

2015-07-22 Thread The Rasterman
On Wed, 22 Jul 2015 08:29:11 -0400 Christopher Barry
christopher.r.ba...@gmail.com said:

sf.net was down today. i don't see this as some huge issue. it was a temporary
outage. if it continues and happens often - sure. time to move the lists. the
problme in moving a list ius everyone has filters and moving everyone means
everyone on the list having to adapt filters. thats a lot of busy work. it has
to be justified with sufficient problems. we ONLY use their lists and the lists
have been good to us over the years and this is a rare hiccup.

 
 Hey Carsten, with all the crap[1,2] sf is up to these days, and now this
 bounce for no good reason, don't you think it's really past time to
 ditch them as the list hosting service?
 
 [1]
 http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/05/sourceforge-grabs-gimp-for-windows-account-wraps-installer-in-bundle-pushing-adware/
 
 [2] http://seclists.org/nmap-dev/2015/q2/194
 
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 an application set that on? I see nothing in the key/mouse/acpi
 bindings that might have let me fat-finger a hotkey or something. I
 was able to turn it off in compositor settings, (thanks herdsman) but
 it's curious to me that it was on. Thoughts?
 
 --
 Regards,
 Christopher Barry
 
 Random geeky fortune:
 That's odd.  That's very odd.  Wouldn't you say that's very odd?
 
 
 
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Re: [e-users] SF SUCKS! WAS: Re: Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender

2015-07-22 Thread mh
++1. I've had several as well. ( sorry about top post )

mike

On 07/22/2015 08:35 AM, Paul Cartwright wrote:
 +1 I also had a bounce.
 Hey Carsten, with all the crap[1,2] sf is up to these days, and now this
 bounce for no good reason, don't you think it's really past time to
 ditch them as the list hosting service?

 [1]
 http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/05/sourceforge-grabs-gimp-for-windows-account-wraps-installer-in-bundle-pushing-adware/

 [2] http://seclists.org/nmap-dev/2015/q2/194

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 an application set that on? I see nothing in the key/mouse/acpi
 bindings that might have let me fat-finger a hotkey or something. I
 was able to turn it off in compositor settings, (thanks herdsman) but
 it's curious to me that it was on. Thoughts?

 --
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 Christopher Barry

 Random geeky fortune:
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 as good.  Luckily this is not difficult.
  -- Charlotte Whitton

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Re: [e-users] SF SUCKS! WAS: Re: Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender

2015-07-22 Thread Tom Hacohen
Sourceforge has been unstable for the last few months, with a few weeks 
(like this one) of it being very unstable/unusable. The list wasn't 
working for a few days. We already have the infra for running our own 
ML, maybe it's time we switch?

Added our sysadmin beber to cc. Beber, anything to add?

--
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On 22/07/15 13:35, Paul Cartwright wrote:
 +1 I also had a bounce.
 Hey Carsten, with all the crap[1,2] sf is up to these days, and now this
 bounce for no good reason, don't you think it's really past time to
 ditch them as the list hosting service?

 [1]
 http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/05/sourceforge-grabs-gimp-for-windows-account-wraps-installer-in-bundle-pushing-adware/

 [2] http://seclists.org/nmap-dev/2015/q2/194

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 an application set that on? I see nothing in the key/mouse/acpi
 bindings that might have let me fat-finger a hotkey or something. I
 was able to turn it off in compositor settings, (thanks herdsman) but
 it's curious to me that it was on. Thoughts?

 --
 Regards,
 Christopher Barry

 Random geeky fortune:
 That's odd.  That's very odd.  Wouldn't you say that's very odd?


 --
 Regards,
 Christopher Barry

 Random geeky fortune:
 Whatever women do they must do twice as well as men to be thought half
 as good.  Luckily this is not difficult.
  -- Charlotte Whitton