Re: [e-users] enlightenment-git dual screen problem
On Tue, 26 Mar 2019 09:52:34 +0100 leoutat...@gmx.fr said: > On 3/26/19 12:29 AM, Mick wrote: > > On Monday, 25 March 2019 18:34:25 GMT leoutat...@gmx.fr wrote: > >> On 3/25/19 4:29 PM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > >>> On Mon, 25 Mar 2019 14:20:20 +0100 leoutat...@gmx.fr said: > Hi > I use dual screen to clone laptop to TV > I configured enlightenment screen, it works, but: > - Video is a little cropped on TV screen on four sides. > - after restarting x server, configuration is displayed non stored > How to avoid that? > See screenshot attachment > X server > laptop screen size 1600x900 (ratio 1.77) > tv screen size 1920x1080 (ratio 1.77) > arch system > efl-git 1.22.0beta2.61568 > enlightenment-git 0.22.99.23537 > >>> Nothing attached... ? and I'm not sure exactly what you mean without some > >>> examples. > >>I hate html mail but attached file doesnt seem working now for me... > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Maderios > > > > Try posting a screenshot/pic here and then share the link: > > > > https://imgur.com/upload > > > Done. Thanks ! > > https://imgur.com/a/6BZYGZt That doesn't help either... :( But I think Cedric interpreted this right so it gives me an idea on what is going on. I have also just such a TV. It, by default, insists on "zooming in" to cut out the content around the borders. It's a TV. That's what they do: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safe_area_(television) That. Your TV is cutting out at least the invisible area and zooming the rest in. This will always result in a blurry images but it's a holdover from analog TV days where these areas were used to transport out-of-band signal information (e.g. like teletext or closed captioning for the hearing impaired in the USA - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teletext + https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Closed_captioning ). Yes - it's being dumb. It's assuming your VGA/HDMI input is ye olde analog style and wants to hide the side-band data. It's a stupid assumption to make by default but TVs do that. Check your settings (remote) to find some zoom or such option to disable this. Perhaps your TV will be smart enough to remember this (per output)... unlike mine, but this is the right solution. It'll make the display less blurry and give you all of the pixels on the screen 1:1. Now you have another issue. 1920x1080 on the TV and 1600x900 on the laptop. This will create problems if you are trying to clone. Have it extend instead of clone and you'll be fine. Otherwise - what can be done? E's randr logic tries to find a common resolution between 2 screens that clone. I bet it can't find one for you as there is no common resolution (TV doesn't advertise 1600x900 and I'm willing to bet your panel is also limited to perhaps a single resolution?). You have a fundamental incompatibility on your hands. In theory it's possible to force a mode that the screen may not advertise 9force the same 1600x900 mode timings onto the HDMI output) but we don't have anything to do this - it may not actually work as the screen may reject such a mode as it wasn't advertised. You can force this with xrandr, but E's screen setup will only work within the "sensible limitations" provided. So take a look at the list of provided resolutions to see if any match. In addition there is the above overscan/invisible area issue probably as well. -- - Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -- Carsten Haitzler - ras...@rasterman.com ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] enlightenment-git dual screen problem
On Wednesday, March 27, 2019 2:18 AM, wrote: > On 3/26/19 5:38 PM, Cedric Bail wrote: > > On Monday, March 25, 2019 6:20 AM, leoutat...@gmx.fr wrote: > > > I use dual screen to clone laptop to TV > > > I configured enlightenment screen, it works, but: > > > > > - Video is a little cropped on TV screen on four sides. > > > > This is a normal behavior for TV. They do that since ancient time, like > > from the time of the dinosaur. There isn't usually a way to circumvent > > that, except in higher end TV where you might have a PC mode or something > > like that. You can search google for the term overscan and your TV model. > > The most annoying is for shelf icons and gadgets. It would be a good > thing to be able to move the shelf in order to avoid that it is cropped. > I remember some desktop panels (Xfce4?) could do that. Xrandr should be able to help you. Something like the following line could do it: xrandr --output HDMI-1 --set underscan on xrandr --output HDMI-1 --set "underscan hborder" 40 --set "underscan vborder" 25 I encourage you to read the documentation and see how xrandr can help you here. I guess it is something we could include in Enlightenment screen configuration dialog. Cedric ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] enlightenment-git dual screen problem
On 3/26/19 5:38 PM, Cedric Bail wrote: Hi, ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Monday, March 25, 2019 6:20 AM, wrote: Hi I use dual screen to clone laptop to TV I configured enlightenment screen, it works, but: - Video is a little cropped on TV screen on four sides. This is a normal behavior for TV. They do that since ancient time, like from the time of the dinosaur. There isn't usually a way to circumvent that, except in higher end TV where you might have a PC mode or something like that. You can search google for the term overscan and your TV model. The most annoying is for shelf icons and gadgets. It would be a good thing to be able to move the shelf in order to avoid that it is cropped. I remember some desktop panels (Xfce4?) could do that. -- Maderios ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] enlightenment-git dual screen problem
Hi, ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Monday, March 25, 2019 6:20 AM, wrote: > Hi > I use dual screen to clone laptop to TV > I configured enlightenment screen, it works, but: > > - Video is a little cropped on TV screen on four sides. This is a normal behavior for TV. They do that since ancient time, like from the time of the dinosaur. There isn't usually a way to circumvent that, except in higher end TV where you might have a PC mode or something like that. You can search google for the term overscan and your TV model. Best, Cedric ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] enlightenment-git dual screen problem
On 3/26/19 12:29 AM, Mick wrote: On Monday, 25 March 2019 18:34:25 GMT leoutat...@gmx.fr wrote: On 3/25/19 4:29 PM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: On Mon, 25 Mar 2019 14:20:20 +0100 leoutat...@gmx.fr said: Hi I use dual screen to clone laptop to TV I configured enlightenment screen, it works, but: - Video is a little cropped on TV screen on four sides. - after restarting x server, configuration is displayed non stored How to avoid that? See screenshot attachment X server laptop screen size 1600x900 (ratio 1.77) tv screen size 1920x1080 (ratio 1.77) arch system efl-git 1.22.0beta2.61568 enlightenment-git 0.22.99.23537 Nothing attached... ? and I'm not sure exactly what you mean without some examples. I hate html mail but attached file doesnt seem working now for me... -- Maderios Try posting a screenshot/pic here and then share the link: https://imgur.com/upload Done. Thanks ! https://imgur.com/a/6BZYGZt -- Maderios ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] enlightenment-git dual screen problem
On Monday, 25 March 2019 18:34:25 GMT leoutat...@gmx.fr wrote: > On 3/25/19 4:29 PM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > > On Mon, 25 Mar 2019 14:20:20 +0100 leoutat...@gmx.fr said: > >> Hi > >> I use dual screen to clone laptop to TV > >> I configured enlightenment screen, it works, but: > >> - Video is a little cropped on TV screen on four sides. > >> - after restarting x server, configuration is displayed non stored > >> How to avoid that? > >> See screenshot attachment > >> X server > >> laptop screen size 1600x900 (ratio 1.77) > >> tv screen size 1920x1080 (ratio 1.77) > >> arch system > >> efl-git 1.22.0beta2.61568 > >> enlightenment-git 0.22.99.23537 > > > > Nothing attached... ? and I'm not sure exactly what you mean without some > > examples. > > I hate html mail but attached file doesnt seem working now for me... > > > -- > Maderios Try posting a screenshot/pic here and then share the link: https://imgur.com/upload -- Regards, Mick ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] enlightenment-git dual screen problem
On 3/25/19 4:29 PM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: On Mon, 25 Mar 2019 14:20:20 +0100 leoutat...@gmx.fr said: Hi I use dual screen to clone laptop to TV I configured enlightenment screen, it works, but: - Video is a little cropped on TV screen on four sides. - after restarting x server, configuration is displayed non stored How to avoid that? See screenshot attachment X server laptop screen size 1600x900 (ratio 1.77) tv screen size 1920x1080 (ratio 1.77) arch system efl-git 1.22.0beta2.61568 enlightenment-git 0.22.99.23537 Nothing attached... ? and I'm not sure exactly what you mean without some examples. I hate html mail but attached file doesnt seem working now for me... -- Maderios ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] enlightenment-git dual screen problem
On 3/25/19 4:29 PM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: On Mon, 25 Mar 2019 14:20:20 +0100 leoutat...@gmx.fr said: Hi I use dual screen to clone laptop to TV I configured enlightenment screen, it works, but: - Video is a little cropped on TV screen on four sides. - after restarting x server, configuration is displayed non stored How to avoid that? See screenshot attachment X server laptop screen size 1600x900 (ratio 1.77) tv screen size 1920x1080 (ratio 1.77) arch system efl-git 1.22.0beta2.61568 enlightenment-git 0.22.99.23537 Nothing attached... ? and I'm not sure exactly what you mean without some examples. ps I sent first mail, BUT answer was "Message body was too big: 229574 bytes with a limit of 100 KB" so, i sent an other message with smaller jpeg, i thought file was attached... I hope attached file works now -- Maderios ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] enlightenment-git dual screen problem
On Mon, 25 Mar 2019 14:20:20 +0100 leoutat...@gmx.fr said: > Hi > I use dual screen to clone laptop to TV > I configured enlightenment screen, it works, but: > - Video is a little cropped on TV screen on four sides. > - after restarting x server, configuration is displayed non stored > How to avoid that? > See screenshot attachment > X server > laptop screen size 1600x900 (ratio 1.77) > tv screen size 1920x1080 (ratio 1.77) > arch system > efl-git 1.22.0beta2.61568 > enlightenment-git 0.22.99.23537 Nothing attached... ? and I'm not sure exactly what you mean without some examples. > Thanks > > -- > Maderios > > > ___ > enlightenment-users mailing list > enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users > -- - Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -- Carsten Haitzler - ras...@rasterman.com ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
[e-users] enlightenment-git dual screen problem
Hi I use dual screen to clone laptop to TV I configured enlightenment screen, it works, but: - Video is a little cropped on TV screen on four sides. - after restarting x server, configuration is displayed non stored How to avoid that? See screenshot attachment X server laptop screen size 1600x900 (ratio 1.77) tv screen size 1920x1080 (ratio 1.77) arch system efl-git 1.22.0beta2.61568 enlightenment-git 0.22.99.23537 Thanks -- Maderios ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
