Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Apple M1 chips and firefox

2021-01-07 Thread Jim Weill
Thank you!

On Thu, Jan 7, 2021 at 4:58 PM Ryan VanderMeulen 
wrote:

> Hi Jim, we shipped a fix in the 78.6.1esr release to address a known crash
> during video playback when running ESR78 through Rosetta. Beyond that,
> we're not aware of any other issues at this time. We are not planning to
> backport the native ARM64 support which shipped in the Firefox 84 release
> to the ESR78 channel, however. ESR78 users on M1 hardware will be running
> through Rosetta until the ESR91 release ships next July.
>
> If you do encounter any issues, please let us know.
>
> Thanks,
> Ryan VanderMeulen
> Firefox Release Manager
>
> On Thu, Jan 7, 2021 at 7:09 PM Jim Weill 
> wrote:
>
>> ESR requirements say intel recommended, is there any word on the M1?  any
>> known issues?  We're starting to get requests for new Mac laptops and need
>> to know if there are any documented issues with the ESR version and M1.
>>
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[Mozilla Enterprise] Apple M1 chips and firefox

2021-01-07 Thread Jim Weill
ESR requirements say intel recommended, is there any word on the M1?  any
known issues?  We're starting to get requests for new Mac laptops and need
to know if there are any documented issues with the ESR version and M1.

jim
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Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Downgrade Protection and Profile Per Installation in Firefox 68

2019-06-24 Thread Jim Weill
I guess my question is:  if we only use one version of Firefox, and we have
a pre-set profile that gets copied into the user home directory on first
successful new user login for both Windows and Linux versions, we should be
ok as long as we don't use any other Firefox version?

I think I've only downgraded once when we made the switch from regular
channel to ESR.  But as I understand what you've sent, existing users will
see no change, and new users should continue to get a pre-set profile under
our scenario.

jim

On Mon, Jun 24, 2019 at 2:23 PM Mike Kaply  wrote:

> The best explanation is here:
>
> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/mozilla.dev.platform/hVeJSYjSnO4
>
> (although it references Firefox 65 - this landed in Firefox 67)
>
> We blogged about it here as well:
>
>
> https://blog.nightly.mozilla.org/2019/01/14/moving-to-a-profile-per-install-architecture/
>
> Support info for profiles per installation is here:
>
>
> https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/dedicated-profiles-firefox-installation
>
> Mike
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 24, 2019 at 2:09 PM Jim Weill 
> wrote:
>
>> Is there a page with details on how these new features work?  I don't
>> know enough about the proposals to know whether we are affected.
>>
>> jim
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 24, 2019 at 1:40 PM Mike Kaply  wrote:
>>
>>> With Firefox 68 two new features are being added; dedicated profiles per
>>> Firefox installation and downgrade protection. These allow for simpler
>>> on-boarding of beta and nightly users and also prevent users from hitting
>>> profile corruption issues when switching between different
>>> versions/channels of Firefox.
>>>
>>> Environment variables will be available in Firefox 68 to disable both
>>> features and we are assessing whether this will be enough for ESR users to
>>> maintain compatibility with their custom deployment configurations.
>>>
>>> It would be great if you could let us know of specific issues related to
>>> these features that an environment variable would not allow addressing.
>>>
>>> Thanks for your input.
>>>
>>> Mike Kaply
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Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Downgrade Protection and Profile Per Installation in Firefox 68

2019-06-24 Thread Jim Weill
Is there a page with details on how these new features work?  I don't know
enough about the proposals to know whether we are affected.

jim

On Mon, Jun 24, 2019 at 1:40 PM Mike Kaply  wrote:

> With Firefox 68 two new features are being added; dedicated profiles per
> Firefox installation and downgrade protection. These allow for simpler
> on-boarding of beta and nightly users and also prevent users from hitting
> profile corruption issues when switching between different
> versions/channels of Firefox.
>
> Environment variables will be available in Firefox 68 to disable both
> features and we are assessing whether this will be enough for ESR users to
> maintain compatibility with their custom deployment configurations.
>
> It would be great if you could let us know of specific issues related to
> these features that an environment variable would not allow addressing.
>
> Thanks for your input.
>
> Mike Kaply
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Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Stupidly Slow Firefox ESR

2018-03-12 Thread Jim Weill

On 3/12/2018 8:05 AM, R P Herrold wrote:

Rather than ad hoc experimentation, is there a way to turn on
(unix syslog style, perhaps across a UDP socket, so not
blocking any process) 'logging', to a file, or at least a
'listener', of all that FF is doing?

I would filter that 'flood' of course, so I could 'hunt down'
through traditional 'partitioning' techniques, offending
'hung' DNS lookups, local or remote scripts, and who know what
else


There is "about:networking" which has a logging feature.  When I was 
having slowness issues and reported it to this list about a year ago, I 
was told to use this feature to create a log and send it in to someone 
at mozilla to parse.  They claimed their developers could not find the 
problem, then the person who originally asked for the logs handed me off 
to someone else to send future logs to and I never heard from anyone at 
mozilla again.


Be aware, this logging feature will generate LARGE files if you leave it 
running too long.  When I was doing testing for the above-mentioned 
issues, it created 10s of GB in log files just browsing a dozen or so sites.


jim
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Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] [From: EXTERNAL] Re: Anyone migrate to 64-bit?

2018-02-09 Thread Jim Weill
We push a 64-bit java to all workstations anyway, so  yes? Most of 
our java users are not plugin users, but we still push both versions of 
java for the developers so it works out all around.


jim


On 2/9/2018 10:56 AM, Delise, John wrote:


Do your users use Java based Web sites? If so, did you have to load a 
64-bit version of Java on your workstations to accommodate them?


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*Subject:* [From: EXTERNAL] Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Anyone migrate to 
64-bit?


We deploy via batch scripts, and I migrated all our Windows clients to 
64-bit around 52.4 or so.  So far nobody has complained that I am 
aware of.


jim

On 2/8/2018 10:56 AM, Jason Jackson wrote:

For those of you who migrated your organization to 64-bit Firefox,
did you encounter any problems with this?  I’d be using CCK2 for
deployment, but I’d also like to hear if there were compatibility
issues with any sites or web applications.

--

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Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Anyone migrate to 64-bit?

2018-02-09 Thread Jim Weill
We deploy via batch scripts, and I migrated all our Windows clients to 
64-bit around 52.4 or so.  So far nobody has complained that I am aware of.


jim


On 2/8/2018 10:56 AM, Jason Jackson wrote:


For those of you who migrated your organization to 64-bit Firefox, did 
you encounter any problems with this?  I’d be using CCK2 for 
deployment, but I’d also like to hear if there were compatibility 
issues with any sites or web applications.


--

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Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] [BULK] [MKTG] Re: 52.5.2 and OSX 10.12 bookmarks bug?

2017-12-28 Thread Jim Weill
This particular Mac is not loading any internal sites, all websites are 
purely external.


jim


On 12/28/2017 10:27 AM, Jesse Pina wrote:


Is this an internal site or external?

Jesse Pina  | Desktop Engineer | WellMed Medical Management, Inc.
Telephone: 210-955-6470 ext 56470 | http://www.WellMedHealthcare.com

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bug?
Importance: Low



This is still happening.  I can workaround by hitting refresh when the URL 
changes, or re-clicking the bookmark.  It seems to be restricted to a single 
tab, as opening a new tab works to load the page properly the first time.  But 
if I remain in that same tab, at some point the behavior returns where the URL 
changes but the new page fails to load.
One person has written me off-list to say they have the same problem.

jim


On 12/12/2017 9:16 AM, Jim Weill wrote:

I have had a problem on OSX 10.12 where clicking a bookmark from the
bookmarks menu or toolbar does not load the site, but does change the
URL in the address bar.  Clicking the bookmark again, or clicking the
reload button loads the site I was trying to get to. Has anyone else
seen this?  It does not happen every time, but easily more than half
the time I click the bookmark link this behavior occurs.

jim

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Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] 52.5.2 and OSX 10.12 bookmarks bug?

2017-12-28 Thread Jim Weill
This is still happening.  I can workaround by hitting refresh when the 
URL changes, or re-clicking the bookmark.  It seems to be restricted to 
a single tab, as opening a new tab works to load the page properly the 
first time.  But if I remain in that same tab, at some point the 
behavior returns where the URL changes but the new page fails to load.  
One person has written me off-list to say they have the same problem.


jim


On 12/12/2017 9:16 AM, Jim Weill wrote:
I have had a problem on OSX 10.12 where clicking a bookmark from the 
bookmarks menu or toolbar does not load the site, but does change the 
URL in the address bar.  Clicking the bookmark again, or clicking the 
reload button loads the site I was trying to get to. Has anyone else 
seen this?  It does not happen every time, but easily more than half 
the time I click the bookmark link this behavior occurs.


jim

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[Mozilla Enterprise] 52.5.2 and OSX 10.12 bookmarks bug?

2017-12-12 Thread Jim Weill
I have had a problem on OSX 10.12 where clicking a bookmark from the 
bookmarks menu or toolbar does not load the site, but does change the 
URL in the address bar.  Clicking the bookmark again, or clicking the 
reload button loads the site I was trying to get to.  Has anyone else 
seen this?  It does not happen every time, but easily more than half the 
time I click the bookmark link this behavior occurs.


jim

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Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Slow pages in ESR 52.2.1 (64bit)

2017-07-25 Thread Jim Weill
I had this issue on my iMac with firefox hogging 150% cpu and 2GB of 
RAM.  It was most noticeable on sites with vertical scrolling. Updating 
to the latest flash player mitigated this, but I still regularly see 
consistent 30-50% cpu with more than 1GB RAM. Firefox slows down 
considerably for a few seconds for me now rather than minutes before I 
updated to the latest flash.


jim


On 7/25/2017 2:42 AM, Marquis Peter wrote:

There seem to be a memory leak somewhere in the code, FF is using 1.3Gb ram and 
40-50% cpu when running the same tabs/add-ons last week it was only using 
3-400Mb and less than 10% cpu

Trying to get some HTTP logs, but FF is nigh-on unusable

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Today's Topics:

1. Re:  Super slow pages after update from 45.9->52.1 ESR
   (Lawrence Mandel)
2. Re:  Super slow pages after update from 45.9->52.1 ESR
   (Lawrence Mandel)
3. Re:  Super slow pages after update from 45.9->52.1 ESR (Jim Weill)
4. Re:  Super slow pages after update from 45.9->52.1 ESR
   (Hendrik Noack)
5. Re:  Super slow pages after update from 45.9->52.1 ESR
   (Lawrence Mandel)
6. Re:  Super slow pages after update from 45.9->52.1 ESR
   (Scott Dodgson)


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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2017 12:10:58 -0400
From: Lawrence Mandel <lman...@mozilla.com>
To: Andrew C Aitchison <and...@aitchison.me.uk>
Cc: enterprise owner <enterprise@mozilla.org>
Subject: Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Super slow pages after update from
45.9->52.1 ESR
Message-ID:

Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Super slow pages after update from 45.9->52.1 ESR

2017-07-24 Thread Jim Weill
My generated logs are far larger than the bug report can upload -- four 
files were created that all come in at 45+ MB each. Compressing them 
results in an 18MB zip file, which is still too large, even for email.  
How do I upload these logs?


jim

On 7/24/2017 10:37 AM, Lawrence Mandel wrote:

I didn't say how to get your logs to Mozilla. Here are two ways:

1. Post your logs to Bugzilla. Use 
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1370629 
<https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1370629>
2. Email your logs to me privately. Please let me know if you're OK 
with me posting your logs to Bugzilla. If not, I'll share them with 
the developers directly and ask that they be deleted when we're done 
analyzing them.


Thanks,

Lawrence

On Mon, Jul 24, 2017 at 12:10 PM, Lawrence Mandel <lman...@mozilla.com 
<mailto:lman...@mozilla.com>> wrote:


Given the report about this still being an issue in 52.2.1 we're
still investigating. The developers have requested an http log
from someone who is able to reproduce the issue. Details on
creating an http log at are


https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Debugging/HTTP_logging#Using_aboutnetworking

<https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Debugging/HTTP_logging#Using_aboutnetworking>

Thanks,

Lawrence

On Sat, Jul 1, 2017 at 9:15 AM, Andrew C Aitchison
<and...@aitchison.me.uk <mailto:and...@aitchison.me.uk>> wrote:


Or, could the delay be some DNS lookup which times out ?

Firefox has its own DNS cache (which can be overridden).
Maybe the switch to multi-threading has done something to the
DNS handling ?


On Sat, 1 Jul 2017, stein.wm wrote:

Perhaps it's the Virus Protection. E. g. on my PC a new
version of Avira (after last product update from
2017-June-02) now tries to sent requests home with every
suspection or internet request. If the firewall blocks
this, the virus protection delays the start of the
intercepted module for a trial period of about half a minute.
But this effect should also occur with other software, it
is not limited to the new Firefox version.
stein.wm


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Gesendet: Samstag, 1. Juli 2017 08:50
An: Jim Weill
Cc: enterprise@mozilla.org <mailto:enterprise@mozilla.org>
Betreff: Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Super slow pages after
update from 45.9->52.1 ESR

I have that problem also with the official version. I'm
still not sure what the problem is. I've noticed that it
occurs only with internet pages, none internal. First I
thought it was my ad blocker. But I did a clean install
(with clean profile) and having the issue back again.

I'm on Windows 7 Pro btw.


    Remy
    Op 30 jun. 2017 om 19:23 heeft Jim Weill
<moon...@icsi.berkeley.edu
<mailto:moon...@icsi.berkeley.edu>> het volgende geschreven:



I don't know about anyone else, but I am still
having the slowness issue with Firefox, even after
upgrading to the (unannounced) 52.2.1 release.  For this
reason I am pushing Chrome to our users because we cannot
keep having random page timeouts slowing us down like this.

I cannot find a way to recreate the issue, other
than at least once per hour the whole browser stops
loading pages and it takes anywhere from 30-60 seconds
before I can use firefox again.  I can open new tabs and
start trying to load pages, but none of them load until
whatever is bottle-necking the browser finally releases.

jim



On 6/6/2017 11:50 AM, Lawrence Mandel wrote:


Thanks Samuel. As a follow up, I have
filed https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1370629
<https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1370629>


Lawrence


On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 9:22 AM, Samuel
Ambaye <samuel.amb...@oakfnd.ch
<mailto:samuel.amb...@oakfnd.ch>> wrote:


We noticed the issue when one of
our users reported a similar issue following a minor
version ESR update:

Using FF 45.9.0.6310 & Windows 7.
(1) Start FF
(2) goto this URL

Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Super slow pages after update from 45.9->52.1 ESR

2017-06-30 Thread Jim Weill
I don't know about anyone else, but I am still having the slowness issue 
with Firefox, even after upgrading to the (unannounced) 52.2.1 release.  
For this reason I am pushing Chrome to our users because we cannot keep 
having random page timeouts slowing us down like this.


I cannot find a way to recreate the issue, other than at least once per 
hour the whole browser stops loading pages and it takes anywhere from 
30-60 seconds before I can use firefox again.  I can open new tabs and 
start trying to load pages, but none of them load until whatever is 
bottle-necking the browser finally releases.


jim


On 6/6/2017 11:50 AM, Lawrence Mandel wrote:
Thanks Samuel. As a follow up, I have filed 
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1370629


Lawrence

On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 9:22 AM, Samuel Ambaye 
<samuel.amb...@oakfnd.ch <mailto:samuel.amb...@oakfnd.ch>> wrote:


We noticed the issue when one of our users reported a similar
issue following a minor version ESR update:

Using FF 45.9.0.6310 & Windows 7.
(1) Start FF
(2) goto this URL www.lematin.ch <http://www.lematin.ch>
(newspaper in Geneva, Switzerland)
Results: Browser waits for the page to load for two-three minutes
to load (but would actually load);
Results: Other browsers, No issue;
(4) Close browser
Browser hangs and requires a kill process.
(5) Restart Browser and Try different web sites, even ones that
were ok before;
Results: Browser waits for web site for over two / three minutes;
(5) Kill Process, Restart browser and repeat step 2 and 5:
Same Result;
(6) Kill Process, Replace FF user profile and repeat step 2 and 5:
Same Result;
(7) Uninstall FF for users who were affected; Install FF 52.1.0.6316
Issue no longer reproducible

We hope this helps.

Best,
    Samuel



>>> Jim Weill <moon...@icsi.berkeley.edu
<mailto:moon...@icsi.berkeley.edu>> 19/05/2017 00:17 >>>
I notice the issue when I first open FF in the morning on Windows
7 Pro
x64 machines.  After that I cannot come up with a reliable way to
reproduce this issue, other than it happens at random times throughout
the day.

I do not notice this on Mac OSX 10.12 at all (we have a few of these).
And I have not polled our Linux users on this issue, so I do not know
where that stands.

Is there something in the dev tools that I can leave open when this
happens again to try to narrow this down?  I've had this happen
several
times today already.

jim


On 5/11/2017 11:51 AM, Phil Pishioneri wrote:
> On 5/11/17 2:06 PM, Julien Cristau wrote:
>> we've filed a bug at
>> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1361865
<https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1361865> to investigate
>> the issue reported in this thread. Unfortunately so far we haven't
>> been able to reproduce this internally.  Does anyone on this thread
>> have a reliable way to reproduce the problem you've seen?  If
this is
>> also reproducible with the non-ESR Firefox releases, knowing which
>> version introduced it would also help narrow down the search.
>
> I've had very reproducible delays since (non-ESR) release 48. I
found
> it related to syncing of my (large) bookmarks. Whenever the sync
> process starts (this can be "random", especially if a Firefox is
> active on another host syncing to the same account), Firefox's UI
> locks up for a few seconds. On a Mac, I get the spinning beach ball;
> on Windows, I'll get the window title bar message about the process
> not responding; I don't recall the behavior on Linux, other than
> Firefox becomes unresponsive. Creating a new bookmark also starts a
> sync (and, it'll start while the "Bookmark This Page" window is
open).
>
> My circumvention was to find the host name being used for my
sync, and
> put in an override in my client's hosts file that maps the name to
> loopback 127.0.0.1, then commenting that out and manually starting a
> sync when I need it (then uncomment it again afterward).
>
> My multiprocess status is off on all of these platforms due to
> incompatible extensions.
>
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Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Super slow pages after update from 45.9->52.1 ESR

2017-05-18 Thread Jim Weill
I notice the issue when I first open FF in the morning on Windows 7 Pro 
x64 machines.  After that I cannot come up with a reliable way to 
reproduce this issue, other than it happens at random times throughout 
the day.


I do not notice this on Mac OSX 10.12 at all (we have a few of these).  
And I have not polled our Linux users on this issue, so I do not know 
where that stands.


Is there something in the dev tools that I can leave open when this 
happens again to try to narrow this down?  I've had this happen several 
times today already.


jim


On 5/11/2017 11:51 AM, Phil Pishioneri wrote:

On 5/11/17 2:06 PM, Julien Cristau wrote:
we've filed a bug at 
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1361865 to investigate 
the issue reported in this thread. Unfortunately so far we haven't 
been able to reproduce this internally.  Does anyone on this thread 
have a reliable way to reproduce the problem you've seen?  If this is 
also reproducible with the non-ESR Firefox releases, knowing which 
version introduced it would also help narrow down the search.


I've had very reproducible delays since (non-ESR) release 48. I found 
it related to syncing of my (large) bookmarks. Whenever the sync 
process starts (this can be "random", especially if a Firefox is 
active on another host syncing to the same account), Firefox's UI 
locks up for a few seconds. On a Mac, I get the spinning beach ball; 
on Windows, I'll get the window title bar message about the process 
not responding; I don't recall the behavior on Linux, other than 
Firefox becomes unresponsive. Creating a new bookmark also starts a 
sync (and, it'll start while the "Bookmark This Page" window is open).


My circumvention was to find the host name being used for my sync, and 
put in an override in my client's hosts file that maps the name to 
loopback 127.0.0.1, then commenting that out and manually starting a 
sync when I need it (then uncomment it again afterward).


My multiprocess status is off on all of these platforms due to 
incompatible extensions.


-Phil
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Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Super slow pages after update from 45.9->52.1 ESR

2017-05-02 Thread Jim Weill
I downloaded the win32 version from the link below but I do not know how 
to tell if I am using the version it says it is?  Either way I am still 
having issues on my own machine with this build, I have not pushed it 
out to everyone else.


jim


On 4/27/2017 6:37 AM, Максим Бритов wrote:

26.04.2017 00:29, Jim Weill пишет:

I have been experiencing a problem with web pages refusing to load for more 
than 60 seconds in some cases since updating to the newest version of the 52.x 
track.  My office internet is a 1Gbps incoming line, of which I usually get no 
less than 10Mbps when there is high traffic on the line.

Could you check 52.1.0rc-build1? 
http://archive.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/candidates/52.1.0esr-candidates/build1/
For my test user (G4400/win10-annw-x64) build1 works fine. Build2 and later not.



I am finding that such disparate sites as google, facebook, and other 
high-reliability sites sit and spin at random times throughout the day.  If I 
open a command line and ping that site, I get a ping time of 3-10ms and very 
little deviation from the time on a continuous ping (i.e. no single ping taking 
more than the time specified, or nslookup errors, etc).  Yet the site sits and 
spins for far too long before eventually loading correctly. Is there a 
preference I have set wrong that's causing this, or is this behavior also being 
noticed by anyone else on this release track?

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Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Super slow pages after update from 45.9->52.1 ESR

2017-04-26 Thread Jim Weill
I tried bringing up a local wiki we have on a server internal to our 
network, and even that page took well over 30+ seconds to load.  We've 
been avoiding adding Chrome to our managed software list, but this 
experience has me re-considering it, honestly.


jim


On 4/25/2017 6:38 PM, Stephanie Daugherty wrote:
Pages have also become a lot "heavier" with massive javascript 
libraries, AJAX, higher resolution images, and the like. Given that 
developers tend to have powerful machines, and testers may only test 
with a few tabs open, a lot of this slips by. Web pages these days are 
applications in their own right, and like any other application, as 
more resources become available, instead of those resources making the 
applications run faster, the developers use the resources to squeeze 
more bloat into the applications.





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Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Super slow pages after update from 45.9->52.1 ESR

2017-04-25 Thread Jim Weill

On 4/25/2017 2:44 PM, Stephen Dowdy wrote:
I saw references to Adobe Flashplayer being responsible for this, and 
lo/behold, upon switching Flashplayer to "Never Activate", the Gtk/Gdk 
messages stopped.

I then disabled Flashplayer in all of my other profiles , and my Atlassian 
Confluence tabs suddenly became usable again. (instead of 30 seconds of 
grinding waiting to edit a page or authenticate, it took no more than 4-5 
seconds).

While i'm massively disappointed in the performance still (yeah, partly the 
freakin' web and it's abundance of dazzle/privacy-theft sites), it turns out 
that Flashplayer being active for a single tab was killing my system.



I will say that the sites which have flash installed and/or running were 
closed when I made my initial post (but the original process was still 
open), and I was having trouble waiting for one of my folders in gmail 
to open -- it took 53 seconds to go from "inbox" in gmail to a 
subfolder/label.  I do notice that firefox takes up well over 750MB of 
memory when I check the process and I know the bulk of that is due to 
flash, but I'll give disabling flash a try.  I do run Flashblock 
extension, but some pages still try loading video under the blocked 
flash container anyway >:-\


jim

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[Mozilla Enterprise] Super slow pages after update from 45.9->52.1 ESR

2017-04-25 Thread Jim Weill
I have been experiencing a problem with web pages refusing to load for 
more than 60 seconds in some cases since updating to the newest version 
of the 52.x track.  My office internet is a 1Gbps incoming line, of 
which I usually get no less than 10Mbps when there is high traffic on 
the line.


I am finding that such disparate sites as google, facebook, and other 
high-reliability sites sit and spin at random times throughout the day.  
If I open a command line and ping that site, I get a ping time of 3-10ms 
and very little deviation from the time on a continuous ping (i.e. no 
single ping taking more than the time specified, or nslookup errors, 
etc).  Yet the site sits and spins for far too long before eventually 
loading correctly. Is there a preference I have set wrong that's causing 
this, or is this behavior also being noticed by anyone else on this 
release track?


jim


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Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] take me off your list

2017-03-08 Thread Jim Weill
Sorry, requests to be taken off list must provide sources and data.  
See, for example: 
http://read.seas.harvard.edu/~kohler/pubs/mazieres05get.pdf



On 3/8/2017 9:04 AM, John Hoepfner wrote:

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