[EUG-LUG:1330] Re: Re. OS X Query - review from a Mac OS and Linux user

2002-01-31 Thread Jacob Meuser
On Wed, Jan 30, 2002 at 11:13:05PM -0800, Jim Beard wrote: That's basically dual booting between a BSD and a Linux system, which seems a little bit silly to me, Unless you want to compare the two, or you want to learn one but still get a lot of work done on the other, and you can't afford

[EUG-LUG:1332] Don't use UFS on OS X/Darwin

2002-01-31 Thread Jacob Shaw
On 1/31/02 4:09 AM, Larry Price [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 30 Jan 2002, Jim Beard wrote: On Wednesday, January 30, 2002, at 08:43 PM, Larry Price wrote: one of those new imacs, though I'd be wanting to dual boot OS X linuxppc or something along those lines. That's basically

[EUG-LUG:1333] Re: Re. OS X Query - review from a Mac OS andLinux user

2002-01-31 Thread Jacob Shaw
On 1/31/02 12:44 AM, Jacob Meuser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Jan 30, 2002 at 11:13:05PM -0800, Jim Beard wrote: That's basically dual booting between a BSD and a Linux system, which seems a little bit silly to me, Unless you want to compare the two, or you want to learn one but

[EUG-LUG:1334] Re: Re. OS X Query - review from a Mac OS andLinux user

2002-01-31 Thread Jacob Shaw
On 1/30/02 11:08 PM, Jim Beard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday, January 30, 2002, at 07:52 PM, Harald Sundt wrote: Mac OS X feels like a real slick (fancy featured) but clunky version of a Mac Window Manager on Red Hat. Really? Clunky? I can't imagine describing OS X that way

[EUG-LUG:1337] Re: EUGLUG web site (fwd)

2002-01-31 Thread Linux Rocks !
Hmm.. yes, I could do that... I could also add gnu@rocksolidnetworks, and have Kiss my RMS as my full name. I dont think I could do GNU/linux@rocksolidnetworks, like jacob shaw had mentioned, As far as I know, You cant even use escape characters to do it... maybe I should setup [EMAIL

[EUG-LUG:1338] cable modem subscribers

2002-01-31 Thread Rob Hudson
Anyone notice a drastic slow down? It might not have been lately, since I've been out of town, but all I'm getting these days are about 16 kBps. :( -- Rob rob_at_euglug_dot_net my @euglugCode = qw(v+++ e--- eug+ bsd+++ gnu+ S+++);

[EUG-LUG:1340] Re: cable modem subscribers

2002-01-31 Thread justin bengtson
--- Rob Hudson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone notice a drastic slow down? It might not have been lately, since I've been out of town, but all I'm getting these days are about 16 kBps. :( i haven't noticed any slowdowns lately, aside from normal web traffic. = Justin Bengtson

[EUG-LUG:1341] Re: Don't use UFS on OS X/Darwin

2002-01-31 Thread Jim Beard
On Thursday, January 31, 2002, at 08:02 AM, Jacob Shaw wrote: On 1/31/02 4:09 AM, Larry Price [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 30 Jan 2002, Jim Beard wrote: On Wednesday, January 30, 2002, at 08:43 PM, Larry Price wrote: one of those new imacs, though I'd be wanting to dual boot OS X

[EUG-LUG:1342] Re: Crazy DSL/Cable combo idea

2002-01-31 Thread Cory Petkovsek
cabledsl ports \ / all other 21,80 router ports | net Routing - figures out which interface to send a packet through, based upon ip address space. nat - mangles packets by replacing source and destination (or other) ip information. default gateway

[EUG-LUG:1343] Re: Don't use UFS on OS X/Darwin

2002-01-31 Thread Roger
Around Thu,Jan 31 2002, at 12:08, Jim Beard, wrote: On Thursday, January 31, 2002, at 08:02 AM, Jacob Shaw wrote: Don't use UFS under Darwin, and especially not under OS X. A lot of things will break, currently. The only problem I've had with using UFS with darwin was when I tried to

[EUG-LUG:1344] Re: flame wars and GNU/Linux

2002-01-31 Thread Dan Robinson
-- From: Larry Price [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [EUG-LUG:1301] Re: flame wars and GNU/Linux Date: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 10:37 AM I propose the following, We update the website to be completely dynamic, require login, make

[EUG-LUG:1348] Re: EUGLUG web site (fwd)

2002-01-31 Thread Bob Miller
Linux Rocks ! wrote: maybe I should setup [EMAIL PROTECTED], but what would I use as the full name? Cute Little Devil. -- Bob Miller Kbob kbobsoft software consulting http://kbobsoft.com [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[EUG-LUG:1349] Re: cable modem subscribers

2002-01-31 Thread Bob Miller
Rob Hudson wrote: Anyone notice a drastic slow down? It might not have been lately, since I've been out of town, but all I'm getting these days are about 16 kBps. :( Shortly after ATT bought out @Home, they installed bandwidth caps on the cable modems. I think the cap is 1.5 Mb/sec down,

[EUG-LUG:1350] Re: Crazy DSL/Cable combo idea - Advanced Network Routing

2002-01-31 Thread Kahli R. Burke
Jacob Meuser wrote: On Thu, Jan 31, 2002 at 09:19:47AM -0800, Ben Barrett wrote: In the original post, all that was wanted iirc was to host ports 21 and 80 over one interface (dsl?) No, he wanted outbound port 21 80 traffic to go through the cable line and everything else to go out the dsl

[EUG-LUG:1351] Re: cable modem subscribers

2002-01-31 Thread Rob Hudson
On 20020131.1447, Bob Miller said ... Rob Hudson wrote: Anyone notice a drastic slow down? It might not have been lately, since I've been out of town, but all I'm getting these days are about 16 kBps. :( Shortly after ATT bought out @Home, they installed bandwidth caps on the

[EUG-LUG:1352] Re: Crazy DSL/Cable combo idea

2002-01-31 Thread Sean Reifschneider
On Thu, Jan 31, 2002 at 12:46:59PM -0800, Cory Petkovsek wrote: pinging google, google will be responding to the left ear(nic), but your firewall will be listening to its right ear, meanwhile wondering what this junk data is on it's left ear. That's not really a problem... Unless you

[EUG-LUG:1353] Meeting tonight

2002-01-31 Thread Woody Mims,
I've lost the directions to the Clinic tonight. I'm bringing a friend and 2 machines. Please help! Woody

[EUG-LUG:1355] Re: Meeting tonight

2002-01-31 Thread Larry Price
1400 Lake Dr. Eugene, OR It's North by River Road, that's all I remember On Thu, 31 Jan 2002, Woody Mims, wrote: I've lost the directions to the Clinic tonight. I'm bringing a friend and 2 machines. Please help! Woody http://www.efn.org/~laprice( Community, Cooperation,

[EUG-LUG:1356] Re: Crazy DSL/Cable combo idea - Advanced Network Routing

2002-01-31 Thread Jacob Meuser
On Thu, Jan 31, 2002 at 02:50:32PM -0800, Kahli R. Burke wrote: You can use iptables to (PREROUTING) mark the packets in a way that can be read later by the routing tools, for example: snip example Again, there are probably similar tools, like pf, on BSD. I just don't know their

[EUG-LUG:1357] list EUG-LUG: List Message Rejected (fwd)

2002-01-31 Thread Edward Craig
We've only bounced a few spams lately, about 3 in the last couple of months, any objection to opening up the list to non-subscribers, especially when we're getting outside interest? -- Ed Craig [EMAIL PROTECTED] Taxi (I need an income) GNU/Linux (I can afford a

[EUG-LUG:1358] Re: list EUG-LUG: List Message Rejected (fwd)

2002-01-31 Thread Jacob Meuser
RMS wrote: It's not about purity in the abstract, it's about whether you spread the confusion that hampers our work, or help correct it. I agree with that 100%. Influential people like Bill G. say the GPL and the GNU/Linux system is bad. Well, if you like what GNU stands for, then why not

[EUG-LUG:1359] Linux Links

2002-01-31 Thread Jim K
For any new users here a list of basic sites for linux news etc. * www.osdn.com --Great site for the Open Source Developers Network. (Currently owned and operated by VALinux) * www.kcopensource.org --Emerging site for local (Kansas City) Open Source Development projects. * www.gnu.org -- Also

[EUG-LUG:1360] Re: flame wars and GNU/Linux (fwd)

2002-01-31 Thread Larry Price
RMS replies... -- Forwarded message -- Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 20:38:12 -0700 (MST) From: Richard Stallman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [EUG-LUG:1298] Re: flame wars and GNU/Linux require login, make it

[EUG-LUG:1361] iptables help

2002-01-31 Thread justin bengtson
i have a dhcp-configured cable modem, a 5 port switch and two personal computers. is there a way to have one computer be a gateway AND a desktop system? i'm sorry, the dhcp thing confuses me (it's really hard to visualize a firewall without static IP's...) the setup would look like this :