Rob Hudson wrote:
So for a single user on this system, and being that all the mailboxes
are mine, it probably makes no difference.
Not so. Even a single user box could have two messages come in near
enough simultaneously that you need file locking. So you should use
the second colon.
--
Hi Gang,
Wayne Sequoia here. My family and I will be in the Portland area part of
11 June and all of 12 June. Any chance of meeting some of you fellows (and
ladies) from Eug-LUG? I am looking forward to meeting some of you and
putting faces with the messages.. LOL
Is there anything different with LILO and Windows 2000 than with
Windows 98?
I need to reset the MBR so that it doesn't see the LILO and goes
straight to windows. Can I boot from the CD and type fdisk /mbr ?
Thanks,
Rob
do you still want to keep your linux partition?
if not, re-format the whole drive. win2k setup should do it automagically
for you. all you have to do is tell it what to kill. i've never used
win2k's fdisk (if it has one) so i can't really give you an informed answer.
however,. as with
Anyone tried the debs for X4? I think branden [1] has some of X4.0.3,
but was curious how well they work. I've done the binary install of
X4 before, but if the debian install is better, I'll give that a shot
(I'm rebuilding my system).
Thanks,
Rob
References:
[1]
Rob, just use woody instead of potato : )
'works fine for me -- only complaint is that KDE starts
by default, not enlightenment...
ben
On Mon, 14 May 2001, Rob Hudson wrote:
Anyone tried the debs for X4? I think branden [1] has some of X4.0.3,
but was curious how well they work. I've
An article from ZDnet that mentions FreeSoftware use in Eugene.
-Dex
Open Source Code: A Corporate Building Block
http://news.excite.com/news/zd/010514/10/open-source-code
Updated 10:55 AM ET May 14, 2001
by Charles Babcock, Interactive Week
It started as a small rebellion - a warning
I espoecially like the NATO SUPREME COMMANDER excerpt. But then again, I
would, being a retired Navy Senior Chief (hup-two-three-four
ten-HUT..square away that cap, Sailor. GET THAT RING OUTTA YOUR NOSE!!).
Regards, Jim
At 10:11 AM 5/14/2001 -0700, you wrote:
Some newer open source products
Or sid, well I follow unstable to be exact. Works well at this
point in time. The first few attempts a couple months ago were
pretty shoddy, but it works well now. Also note the recent
switch from 4.0.2 - 4.0.3, so there may be some kinks again.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Mon, May 14, 2001 at
It's great, Rob the package you want is xserver-xfree86. There is
usually a configure script on setup. Make sure that /etc/X11/X is a
symlink to XFree86
--Mike, the purveyor of all things Debian.
Rob Hudson wrote:
Anyone tried the debs for X4? I think branden [1] has some of X4.0.3,
How stable is sid? Didn't they have a freeze a while back?
On 20010514.1136, Jacob Meuser said ...
Or sid, well I follow unstable to be exact. Works well at this
point in time. The first few attempts a couple months ago were
pretty shoddy, but it works well now. Also note the recent
I just checked...
The current testing is 'woody', the current unstable is 'sid'.
Would I be pretty safe running 'woody'? Safe, as in, no major changes
that might break things and me not being able to get work done?
Thanks,
Rob
On 20010514.1141, Michael Smith said ...
It's great, Rob
On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 10:52:47AM -0700, Jim Darrough wrote:
I espoecially like the NATO SUPREME COMMANDER excerpt. But then again, I
would, being a retired Navy Senior Chief (hup-two-three-four
ten-HUT..square away that cap, Sailor. GET THAT RING OUTTA YOUR NOSE!!).
Isn't the nose ring to
Our illustrious booth leader, Drake Ewbank, reminds me that he's going to
the pass eligibility meeting tonight; while my interpretation of the last
Village meeting was that we've still got some sorting out to do on camping
passes, day passes are much more flexible. Who all is interested in day
So.. I just saw the newspaper article... That was pretty hilarious... It
sounds like a great theme for the country fair booth :)
The IBM Flash Presentaion can be found at:
http://www-1.ibm.com/servers/eserver/linux/passport.swf
I looked for the newspaper article, but didnt find it online...
Geez, Jamie. Where have you been hiding? This is OLD news.
Regards, Jim
At 12:56 PM 5/14/2001 -0700, you wrote:
So.. I just saw the newspaper article... That was pretty hilarious... It
sounds like a great theme for the country fair booth :)
The IBM Flash Presentaion can be found at:
Here's a base debian ISO so you don't have to make 6 boot disks, or 3
install CDs...
http://www.markybob.com/elf/
So, I had another episode today where the wheel mouse lost its ability to
click/scroll, I then shortly lost keyboard controll in X... I was able to
switch to terminal and back, and found kapm-idled running at over %50 CPU. I
tried killing it (I hate apm...) as the user... no luck. I noticed
I tried to email 2 messages to Cory last week. They both came back today.
Come out, come out where ever you are.
Alee, alee in free.
Cory Petkovsek [EMAIL PROTECTED] 5/7/2001 12:36:44 PM
On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 12:47:28PM -0400, Joe Griffo wrote:
this is ridiculous!!!
It's an urban legend, it turns out--see slashdot's coverage. :-/
Randolph
yeah, i'd be interested, (i've never been to the country fair)
Larry Price | We have seen the truth.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] | And the truth makes no sense. -chesterton
___
On Mon, 14 May 2001, Patrick R. Wade wrote:
Our
file this one under [urban legends (microsoft)]
as the incident referred to was the infamous netscape sucks or
skcus epacsten string which was NOT a secret password into IIS
Larry Price | We have seen the truth.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] | And the truth makes no sense. -chesterton
did anyone actually believe that anyway?
-Original Message-
From: larry a price [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2001 2:38 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [EUG-LUG:993] Re: microsoft hole!
file this one under [urban legends (microsoft)]
as the incident
AaarghhUsually my BS meter catches the good hoaxes ;-) It reminded
me of the infamous NSAKey!
well, I don't feel too bad, if yahoo, and slashdot were both suckers to
this one!
-- Joe
On 14 May 2001 14:39:30 -0700, Justin Bengtson wrote:
did anyone actually believe that anyway?
at least you're honest about it. :)
certainly can't fault you for that...
-Original Message-
From: Joe Griffo [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2001 11:50 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [EUG-LUG:995] Re: microsoft hole!
AaarghhUsually my BS meter
On 14 May 2001 14:39:30 -0700, Justin Bengtson wrote:
did anyone actually believe that anyway?
I did. Evidently, rfp did too, he wrote an advisory about it. The
netscape engineers are weenies! was a static key that allowed for a
minor vulnerability. Heck, if you have an NT 4 server around,
On the win2k cd, there is a 'rescue' mode with a rescue 'console'.
In there there is a utility called diskboot, which is supposedly the same thing as
fdisk/mbr. Type help for a listing of commands.
However, I will no longer trust it.
I did this once on a system that needed it. After
Your best bet is to leave lilo there. Regardless of whether or not linux will be on
the system. Just have lilo dump to the first partition. If you ever need to change
the lilo config, you can boot off of a floppy disk, set or cd. When windows get's
it's regular reinstall, you can fix it
You probably don't want to copy /proc, though.
Make a directory there on the new filesystem, otherwise the kernel won't load.
However, don't copy it from the old system. I did this once and the /proc directory
ended up with 300mb in it!???!
On Sat, May 12, 2001 at 10:50:09PM -0700, Jamie
I've been using it for many months; x 4.0.2 debs currently. Runs fine on my laptop.
Autodetection of modelines are wonderful.
Cory
On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 10:03:10AM -0700, Rob Hudson wrote:
Anyone tried the debs for X4? I think branden [1] has some of X4.0.3,
but was curious how well
Suppose we can get a banner out of IBM?
Somehow the idea of an IBM banner at the Community Village really
amuses me. Better if we can get a tie-dyed or batik'd version, though.
I know batik and tye-dye crafters from Saturday Market. President
Seth, you suppose we could
Thanks for the replies.
I ended up removing the linux drive (it was moving to a new system)
and booting from a win98 cd and running 'fdisk /mbr'. That seemed to
work somehow.
-Rob
On 20010514.1616, Cory Petkovsek said ...
On the win2k cd, there is a 'rescue' mode with a rescue 'console'.
Depends how you define stable. The biggest problem I've run
across was a OpenSSH (I guess Debian still calls it ssh) binary
built against a different OpenSSL (or as Debian calls it, ssl)
library. Not too big of a deal, just rebuild OpenSSH locally.
But that's when I found out that to build
Well I thought I would try Mike's ximian deb's and my system broke. It
might be because I've used Storm deb's and the new ximian debs maybe
didn't play right. I had x windows up and I completely messed that up
now. The nicest part I can still get on the web and check my e-mail. I
was
Has anyone got Dual monitors going? I'd like to try it sometime and had
some questions.
Can you use two different supported cards and monitors?
How would you configure both?
Can You have X windows open in one and a shell in another?
How many monitors would XFree 4 support?
If someone has
I'm trying to get ALSA sound going in Debian 2.2 stable. I built a kernel
with base sound support, installed alsa-source (alsadriver appears to be
missing from stable), ran configure cleanly, tried to run make install,
and got fatal errors:
---
In file included from persist.c:23:
On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 07:47:57PM -0700, Timothy L. Bolz wrote:
Ok this is for Cory and others who use laptops.
Could you plug a monitor into your laptop and have a different screen than
what on the laptop? I guess it would be like dual monitors. If it can be
different can windows do
Mandrake (one of the enlightenment developers) runs 3 video cards (all
the same I think) and has a wrap around type of setup (check out
http://www.mandrake.net/ for some recent office pictures). But when I
was investigating it before we got the Matrox G450 card, the docs said
you can use
On Tue, May 15, 2001 at 01:48:58AM -0700, Rob Hudson wrote:
Do you guys usually report bugs when you run across one in testing?
Any pointers on where/how to submit reports (if I find one)?
It seems I'm never the first to find them ...
http://www.debian.org/Bugs/
Another general debian
What's the package in debian to reconfigure the clock?
Something like 'dpkg --reconfigure pkg'? Was it tz something?
Thanks,
Rob
On 20010514.2057, Jacob Meuser said ...
Another general debian question. How do most people handle it when
they build/install their own kernel from source, and a new kernel
comes out and apt wants to install it? Should I remove the kernel
stuff via dselect/apt, or put it on hold?
I
On Tue, May 15, 2001 at 03:52:38AM -0700, Rob Hudson wrote:
What's the package in debian to reconfigure the clock?
Something like 'dpkg --reconfigure pkg'? Was it tz something?
Reconfigure a package:
dpkg-reconfigure pkg
Change timezone:
tzconfig
Change clock:
date (read the manpage)
On Tue, May 15, 2001 at 03:59:37AM -0700, Rob Hudson wrote:
I usually install from source without making packages. My system
doesn't even know I have a kernel:
jakemsr@nodge:~$ dpkg -l |grep kernel
ii kernel-package 7.37 Debian Linux kernel package build scripts.
ii
to treat updates for packages. You can essentially put a hold on
any package. Unfortunately, I forgot where this file is :( I got
this info from the debian-dpkg mailing list, where it was posted a
couple weeks ago. Perhaps a search of the archives would turn up
something?
[EMAIL
On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 09:45:58PM -0700, Ben Barrett wrote:
to treat updates for packages. You can essentially put a hold on
any package. Unfortunately, I forgot where this file is :( I got
this info from the debian-dpkg mailing list, where it was posted a
couple weeks ago. Perhaps a
I'm pretty sure both get their input from the same video device though.
Yes, they do. I have a broken laptop that has the video control chip
busted... No VIDEO (Ive tried)
Jamie
On Monday 14 May 2001 08:36 pm, you wrote:
On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 07:47:57PM -0700, Timothy L. Bolz wrote:
Ok
How can you re-configure your clock?
Jamie
On Tuesday 15 May 2001 03:52 am, you wrote:
What's the package in debian to reconfigure the clock?
Something like 'dpkg --reconfigure pkg'? Was it tz something?
Thanks,
Rob
Jacob, I don't mean to pry, but doesn't running code labled 'unstable' defeat the
purpose of running a stable operating system? Sure the kernel never crashes, only
your apps do, but it seems to me that the benefit to running CVS or unstable software
(new features) is not worth the
A wonderful essay on free.
It's long, I know, but there is lots of good stuff in there to make
you laugh and think.
Cheers,
Dexter
http://www.diggers.org/kaliflower/dtf.htm
I like the idea. Someone call the local IBM office and see if they will.
Seth
- Original Message -
From: Edward Craig [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2001 4:56 PM
Subject: [EUG-LUG:1003] Re: Peace Love Linux
Suppose we can get a banner out of IBM?
What is displayed on the lcd is also displayed on the video out port. The video out
on laptops is designed for a projector or external monitor, so will display the same
as what's on the screen. There's only one video card in laptops.
xinerama:
The 'tzconfig' was what I was trying to remember. Only thing was that
the timezone was set correctly, but my answer to 'is your hardware
clock set to GMT' was not. I ended up rebooting and set the clock in
the BIOS.
-Rob
On 20010514.2214, Jamie said ...
How can you re-configure your clock?
On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 10:14:43PM -0700, Jamie wrote:
How can you re-configure your clock?
I would presume it supports options for defining number of hours in local
day, direction of clockwise, definition of time units relative to ISO second,
and so on. Even cooler would be if it supported
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