EV digest 4700
EV Digest 4700 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Firefly and their longer lasting lead-acid battery/Lawn Garden by John Luck Home [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2) evalbum copyright or public domain? by Lightning Ryan [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3) Re: Some EV help by Peter VanDerWal [EMAIL PROTECTED] 4) Re: EV as backup power for house with grid-tied solar? by Evan Tuer [EMAIL PROTECTED] 5) Re: more wireing detail questions by Jeff Shanab [EMAIL PROTECTED] 6) RE: Freeway vs Sparrow by Tim Medeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] 7) Re: Digital or analog gauges by John Wayland [EMAIL PROTECTED] 8) associated1 on Ebay / IOTA Power supplies by Eric Poulsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] 9) RE: Kilovac score on Ebay (and sniping) by Tim Humphrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10) Re: EvAmerica 'clutchless design' by STEVE CLUNN [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11) Tardy but not TOO LATE - a REPEAT by Steven Lough [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12) RE: Kilovac score on Ebay (and sniping) by Philip Marino [EMAIL PROTECTED] 13) RE: Kilovac score on Ebay (and sniping) by Michaela Merz [EMAIL PROTECTED] 14) OT: RE: Ebay (and sniping) by David Roden [EMAIL PROTECTED] 15) RE: Kilovac score on Ebay (and sniping) by Mike Barber [EMAIL PROTECTED] 16) Re: Kilovac score on Ebay (and sniping) by Evan Tuer [EMAIL PROTECTED] 17) Re: EV as backup power for house with grid-tied solar? by Rush [EMAIL PROTECTED] 18) Re: An Enemy of my Enemy by Victor Tikhonov [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---BeginMessage--- That seems to be it Ryan. The videos of the Electrolux link posted previously play on my PC with plain old Windoze media player or Quicktime movies. Its a load of Hype and salespeak presumably to persuade investors to bring money into the joint venture - although with a large company such as caterpillar and Electrolux involved I am not sure why they need a few extra million $ ?? It sounds quite a good idea - I know Graphite sponge slices have been used in Pb cells before but they seem to have taken it one step further by having a line of Carbon sponges (not sure how you do that) impregnated with (I guess) oxides of lead and sulphates of lead - just like an ordinary battery - but instead of using a fine grid of lead wires as the carrier for this paste they are using carbon which has a larger surface area which equals better power densities. So I wonder where the batteries are. It sounds like this idea has been around for 3 years or so but has anyone come across a cell that may have been offered up for testing to determine the power densities and available currents -- or as the original poster said is it Snake Oil I wonder if some home experimentation is in order - Could we go and get some of that open cell foam (you know the one that they make the bug cleaners for car windows that's all crunchy) and loads of soot and glue- coat the sponge, slice it up on the bandsaw , get an old Pb cells and scrape out the lead oxide/sulphates mix with a little acid to form a paste and press it into the foam. Make two of these (pos neg) - dunk in jar of acid and hey presto a carbon sponge battery !!! Dream on . - Original Message - From: Ryan Stotts [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ev@listproc.sjsu.edu Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 1:07 AM Subject: Re: Firefly and their longer lasting lead-acid battery/Lawn Garden Neon John wrote: About patents. The first thing I do when I hear about a company releasing a new technology is to go to http://www.uspto.gov, do a quick patent search and plug the company name into the assignee field. If the company has any patents assigned to it, they'll kick back. In this case, Firefly returned nothing relevant. If someone who is willing to let FLASH execute on his computer can glean any other company name, I'll do so more searching. I think this battery was actually developed at the Caterpillar RD lab in Peoria, IL. Then some how, the employees that were involved spun off this Firefly company. I think this is the patent for the battery: 20040002006 http://appft1.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2Sect2=HITOFFp=2u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsearch-bool.htmlr=95f=Gl=50co1=ANDd=PG01s1=Caterpillar.AS.OS=AN/CaterpillarRS=AN/Caterpillar If someone can't get the link to work, here's the summary: Battery including carbon foam current collectors Abstract A battery having a current collector constructed of carbon foam. The carbon foam includes a network of pores into which a chemically active paste is disposed to create either a positive or negative plate for the battery. The carbon foam resists corrosion and exhibits a large amount of surface area. The invention includes a method for making the disclosed carbon foam current collector used in the battery. There's another part: 20030219653 Battery including carbon foam current collectors
EV digest 4701
EV Digest 4701 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: electric motorcycle performance by David Dymaxion [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2) Re: What charger to use? by Rich Rudman [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3) Re: Tardy but not TOO LATE - a REPEAT by Roderick Wilde [EMAIL PROTECTED] 4) Re: associated1 on Ebay / IOTA Power supplies by Lawrence Rhodes [EMAIL PROTECTED] 5) Re: Make an Aluminium Flywheel by David Dymaxion [EMAIL PROTECTED] 6) Re: Solectria Charger Question by Victor Tikhonov [EMAIL PROTECTED] 7) Re: 300 MPH Quarter EV Technology by Victor Tikhonov [EMAIL PROTECTED] 8) Re: associated1 on Ebay / IOTA Power supplies by [EMAIL PROTECTED] 9) DMV purgatory by Mark Hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10) RE: alternator regen -- Re: Shunt motor regen setup by Bill Dennis [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11) Re: Kilovac score on Ebay (and sniping) by Danny Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12) FS: 9 Evercel M100s plus chargers by Derrick Brashear [EMAIL PROTECTED] 13) Re: What charger to use? by Victor Tikhonov [EMAIL PROTECTED] 14) Vas: Re: Vas: Re: Steves Mower, was, 2000 mile range EV? by Seppo Lindborg [EMAIL PROTECTED] 15) Help a newbie with EV purchase by Andrew Sackville-West [EMAIL PROTECTED] 16) Re: Make an Aluminium Flywheel by Victor Tikhonov [EMAIL PROTECTED] 17) Re: 9 motor mount for 1980 Rabbit. by Electro Automotive [EMAIL PROTECTED] 18) Re: 9 motor mount for 1980 Rabbit. by Electro Automotive [EMAIL PROTECTED] 19) Re: 9 motor mount for 1980 Rabbit. by Electro Automotive [EMAIL PROTECTED] 20) RE: Altrax 7245, palm OS porting by Paschke, Stephen [EMAIL PROTECTED] 21) Re: What charger to use? by Victor Tikhonov [EMAIL PROTECTED] 22) Re: Solectria Charger Question by Victor Tikhonov [EMAIL PROTECTED] 23) Re: Help a newbie with EV purchase by Andrew Sackville-West [EMAIL PROTECTED] 24) Re: Solectria Charger Question by EVdave [EMAIL PROTECTED] 25) Re: Altrax 7245, palm OS porting by Philippe Borges [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---BeginMessage--- Land speed racing allows fully faired motorcycles. --- mreish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... Another big problem there is that every race organization that I know off doesn't allow body work to wrap around or interfere with the rider. So there's often a void 'tween the rider and rear cowl/fairing. ... __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com ---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- - Original Message - From: David Roden [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ev@listproc.sjsu.edu Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2005 11:49 PM Subject: Re: What charger to use? On 10 Sep 2005 at 18:10, Rich Rudman wrote: A series charger that has a transformer or a voltage regulated source... How do I say this... Can't hold a regulated power or current level. Have substantialy less available power at the higher voltages. Say you are doing 120 volts, and you have a rectifier, Or any voltage and a transformer step up/down. At low battery voltages compared to the peak of the charger, you will have a rally large current flow, and some chargers will fail trying to make the big amps. I must be misunderstanding this. It sounds like you are suggesting that a transformer isolated charger can't act as a constant voltage, constant power, or constant current device. Well nice post... I think... Clearly your Brusa has a LOT more than a transformer and a rectifier... It clearly can Buck from 240. But a 132 volt transformer based...LIKE a ZIVAN can't do 156 volt work and has a low voltage cutout that keeps it from doing less than about 96 volts. So without getting into a technical Slam bang... David you know darn well what I was talking about. Why bring it up? Rich Rudman Manzanita Micro ---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- Steve, a minor criticism. You state: race electric powered Lazy-Boy Recliners during half time out at Pacific International Race Way, come September 24th, 05. You do not state the time of the event, the cost if you are not racing and a link to the tracks website for those who have never been there. Kind of part of the who, what, when, why, and where. Roderick Wilde - Original Message - From: Steven Lough [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List RCVR ev@listproc.sjsu.edu Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 8:22 AM Subject: Tardy but not TOO LATE - a REPEAT Several folks have chimed in now... ( Thank you.even the critical ones ) But they keep saying I have not given all the details... I read the original 9/9 post again for the Third Time, and it seems it is all there. So here it is again Copy of the 9/9 Post. I’ve been sitting on this story to post for over a month. My apologies… The World is defiantly
EV digest 4702
EV Digest 4702 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: 300 MPH Quarter EV Technology-Wiring For by Rich Rudman [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2) Re: Rich, Goldie, and motor mods by Rich Rudman [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3) Re: Zilla Cooling by Rich Rudman [EMAIL PROTECTED] 4) Re: What charger to use? by Rich Rudman [EMAIL PROTECTED] 5) Re: What charger to use? by Rich Rudman [EMAIL PROTECTED] 6) Re: Solectria Charger Question by Victor Tikhonov [EMAIL PROTECTED] 7) More wiring questions by Jeff Shanab [EMAIL PROTECTED] 8) Freeway by Larry Hays [EMAIL PROTECTED] 9) Re: More wiring questions by John G. Lussmyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10) Re: DMV purgatory by David Roden (Akron OH USA) [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11) Re: Solectria Charger Question by David Roden (Akron OH USA) [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12) Re: What charger to use? by David Roden (Akron OH USA) [EMAIL PROTECTED] 13) Re: What charger to use? by David Roden (Akron OH USA) [EMAIL PROTECTED] 14) Re: Freeway by Bruce Weisenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] 15) Re: Solectria Charger Question by EVdave [EMAIL PROTECTED] 16) Re: No Interest in Electric Drag Racing? by Victor Reppeto [EMAIL PROTECTED] 17) Sam electric three-wheeler by Larry Hays [EMAIL PROTECTED] 18) Lazy Boy E-Chair Races...More Detail by Steven Lough [EMAIL PROTECTED] 19) Re: No Interest in Electric Drag Racing? by Andrew Sackville-West [EMAIL PROTECTED] 20) Re: Solectria Charger Question by EVdave [EMAIL PROTECTED] 21) Re: What charger to use? by Victor Tikhonov [EMAIL PROTECTED] 22) Re: Solectria Charger Question by Victor Tikhonov [EMAIL PROTECTED] 23) Re: More wiring questions by Roland Wiench [EMAIL PROTECTED] 24) Dave Cloud's Geo Stratus @ Woodburn 2005 by Roderick Wilde [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---BeginMessage--- It's a linear induction motor operates just like a industrial AC motor... but laid out flat I am not sure NHRA will let us have a Nuclear powered intrack motor... That might violate a few rules... Madman - Original Message - From: Joe Smalley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ev@listproc.sjsu.edu Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2005 11:24 PM Subject: Re: 300 MPH Quarter EV Technology-Wiring For New Aircraft Carriers are planning to have electric catapults. http://www.nationaldefensemagazine.org/issues/2001/Jul/Navy_to_Phase.htm Does anyone know the weight and launch velocity of a Joint Strike Fighter as it exits an aircraft carrier after only 300 feet of acceleration? The article says they were trying to get to 200 kts in 300 feet. Just think what it could do with 1320 feet. WOW. Joe Smalley Rural Kitsap County WA Fiesta 48 volts NEDRA 48 volt street conversion record holder [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Tim Stephenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ev@listproc.sjsu.edu Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2005 9:43 PM Subject: Re: 300 MPH Quarter EV Technology-Wiring For Or wind a big inductor under the track. Maglev, anyone? -Tim - Original Message - From: ROBERT RICE [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ev@listproc.sjsu.edu Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2005 12:33 AM Subject: Re: 300 MPH Quarter EV Technology-Wiring For Neon John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 01:27:17 -0700, Lightning Ryan wrote: Neon John wrote: given a megabuck, oh heck, let's make it unlimited funds, tell me in general terms how you'd achieve 300 mph in the quarter with an EV. WHO SEZ THAT YOU CAN'T WIRE THE TRACK WITH CATENERY??NHRA, NEDRA? If yur spending all those bux, just go to the grid or leave the monster battery pack at the end of the track.Only a quarter mile do ya need, you run outta wire at the end, no shutdown problem, anyhow. Works for Seattle an' transit Vancouver and Amtrak, and EVen the PDX Maxg! Seeya Bob -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.21/96 - Release Date: 9/10/05 ---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- Funny... secret... and on the EV list... not a chance.. Goldie WAS a terror in about '98 when I installed the first Raptor in her, and Went to Woodburn 1. She is still one of the fastest EVs in Nedra. But. Upgrades are coming...and sometime I will have to have here turned into Rebar. She is old and rusting away. But Now with new batteries, and some motor help... I am looking to get a couple more years out of her. Clues Don't need more motor... Way too much tire spin, Need a motor that pulls, all the way to 6500 rpm. GOT the Zilla, But right now even the Old Raptor is more than the chassis can use. 13s in Goldie...That's 1000s of bucks of front end suspension mods and designs... Do I really want to put that
EV digest 4703
EV Digest 4703
Topics covered in this issue include:
1) Re: WZ/Woodburn video, Last minute rush, was: Where to find...
by bruce parmenter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
2) Lazy-Boy recliner races on 9/24 in Kent, WA
by Ken Trough [EMAIL PROTECTED]
3) Re: 300 MPH Quarter EV Technology-Wiring For
by Gordon Niessen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
4) Re: 9 motor mount for 1980 Rabbit.
by Lawrence Rhodes [EMAIL PROTECTED]
5) Re: Zilla Cooling
by Ricky Suiter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
6) Re: 9 motor mount for 1980 Rabbit.
by Noel P. Luneau [EMAIL PROTECTED]
7) Interest in Electric Racing in General?
by Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED]
8) Re: Dave Cloud's Geo Stratus @ Woodburn 2005
by Paul G. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
9) Re: What charger to use?
by Michaela Merz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
10) NEDRA Records for 2005
by Brian D.Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED]
11) RE: evalbum copyright or public domain?
by [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
12) Re: Sam electric three-wheeler
by Michael Hurley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
13) In defense of modular charging, was Re: What charger to use?
by David (Battery Boy) Hawkins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
14) Re: Zilla Cooling
by David (Battery Boy) Hawkins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
15) Re: What charger to use?
by David (Battery Boy) Hawkins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
16) Re: 300 MPH Quarter EV Technology-Wiring For
by David (Battery Boy) Hawkins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
17) RE: EV digest 4700
by [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
18) Bonneville Salt Flats World of Speed cancelled
by Roderick Wilde [EMAIL PROTECTED]
19) Re: Dave Cloud's Geo Stratus @ Woodburn 2005
by Nick 'Sharkey' Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED]
20) RE: NEDRA Records for 2005
by Noel P. Luneau [EMAIL PROTECTED]
21) Re: Dave Cloud's Geo Stratus @ Woodburn 2005
by Lawrence Rhodes [EMAIL PROTECTED]
22) Re: EVILbus (was: e-meter type gadget)
by Lee Hart [EMAIL PROTECTED]
23) re: EV with Windmill (was 300 MPH Quarter EV Technology-Wiring For)
by Victor Reppeto [EMAIL PROTECTED]
24) Re: EV with Windmill (was 300 MPH Quarter EV Technology-Wiring For)
by Danny Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
25) Re: NEDRA Records for 2005
by Paul G. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
26) RE: evalbum copyright or public domain?
by Mike Chancey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
27) Re: Rich, Goldie, and motor mods
by Ryan Stotts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
28) Re: electric motorcycle performance
by Nick 'Sharkey' Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED]
29) Crimping cables!, getting closer!
by Jeff Shanab [EMAIL PROTECTED]
30) RE: NEDRA Records for 2005
by David Dymaxion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
31) Plasma Cutter
by David Dymaxion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
32) Re: Crimping cables!, getting closer!
by [EMAIL PROTECTED]
33) Re: Plasma Cutter
by [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Chris please contact my directly ev_list_editor(at)yahoo.com
I have put the two clips together just as you stating, and added
titles. I would like to run it by you for your corrections and
approval. I plan to use as a EV promotion tool. Perhaps even get
it up on the EAA site so other EVangels can use it.
I plan to make both a high bandwidth and a low bandwidth version
available. There are still many that would at to see it, but
downloading 25MB of mpeg is hard to do over a slow modem.
I look forward to your email.
-Bruce
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Electric Lazy-Boy Recliner Races being held on 9/24/05 in Kent, WA.
The event will be held at Pacific International Raceway. Gates open at
8AM.
http://www.pacificraceways.com/
The Electric Lazyboy races will occur during half time of the Sovren
Vintage Races that are happening that day. Participation in the electric
lazyboy race gets you free admission to the track. Spectators are
charged $8 for admission.
$1000 prize purse is up for grabs!!
Rules:
Recliners to be no wider than 48” and no longer than 8 feet. Total
battery weight is limited to 200 lbs. You should use some kind of chair
that looks like a Lazy-Boy Recliner.
These rules are already being stretched as one competitor is using an
ejection seat from a Navy jet!
Competitors include some famous names in racing.
Here are a couple of photos:
http:/home.comcast.net/~stevenslough/DavesEChairTWO.JPG
http:/home.comcast.net/~stevenslough/LazyBoyRacer.jpg
I thought I'd consense this info for clarity. Hope this helps!
-Ken Trough
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