Re: [EVDL] NEV is a stoopid idea. Moped is better

2021-05-22 Thread Phil Hochstetler via EV
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Re: [EVDL] VW ID4 included charging adapter 120/240?

2021-05-22 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
The ID4 was developed primarily for the EU market where residential mains are 230-240 volt. So there's a pretty good chance that it's capable of handling that voltage. Regrettably it's a pricey failure if not! Can you open it and have a look at the individual components' voltage ratings

Re: [EVDL] VW ID4 included charging adapter 120/240?

2021-05-22 Thread Peter VanDerWal via EV
While it might not say so, the Bolt EVSE is made by Clipper Creak and works on 240V @ 12 amps. My PGP public key: https://vanderwal.us/evdl_pgp.key May 17, 2021 5:48 AM, "Mark Hanson via EV" wrote: > Hi folks > A friend is buying a new ID4 today that comes with the traditional 120V >

Re: [EVDL] Ford F-150 Reveal - Great for everyone!

2021-05-22 Thread John Blair via EV
I’ve had two EV’s like that. The first was my 1980 ComutaCar that I drove for 20 years. It held two people and a few bags of groceries, hit 38 mph on the flat for about 35 miles. It was a lightweight car, but I loved it. It was great in a city. It was not great on hills so when I moved to a

Re: [EVDL] NEV is a stoopid idea. Moped is better

2021-05-22 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
If NEVs are such a "stoopid" idea, why do you see so many smiling people driving golf cars around retirement communities? David Roden, EVDL moderator & general lackey To reach me, don't reply to this message; I won't get it. Use my offlist address here : http://evdl.org/help/index.html#supt

Re: [EVDL] NEV is a stoopid idea. Moped is better

2021-05-22 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
Depends on your needs. I bicycle. My wife could use a small NEV, not a moped. She needs protection from weather and a place to put groceries, etc. And additional safety. We live in a place with mostly 20 and 25mph streets for miles in every direction. Peri << Annoyed by leaf blowers ?

Re: [EVDL] NEV is a stoopid idea. Moped is better

2021-05-22 Thread Willie McKemie via EV
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Re: [EVDL] Ford F-150 Reveal - Great for everyone!

2021-05-22 Thread Alan Arrison via EV
I agree with Gary, it is not a win win. On 5/21/2021 11:07 PM, Gary Krysztopik via EV wrote: "The Master's tools will never dismantle the Master's house". This is Ford's solution to the problem that they created (massively oversized trucks everywhere). Their solution must lie within their

[EVDL] NEV is a stoopid idea. Moped is better

2021-05-22 Thread Lawrence Rhodes via EV
Speed disadvantage. No price advantage compared to a more functional used EV. A moped (tuk tuk style) has the advantage of less cost on insurance and a one time registration and holds three people. NEV should just die. Lawrence Rhodes ___ Address

[EVDL] has any one seen...

2021-05-22 Thread K O via EV
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Re: [EVDL] Ford F-150 Reveal - Great for everyone!

2021-05-22 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 22 May 2021 at 13:04, Lee Hart via EV wrote: > It's really sad that Rick Woodbury has never been able to get his Tango > EV to market . > I hear you! The Tango was a brilliant but doomed EV. Maybe if you're really wealthy you could have Rick custom-build you one. I may be wrong, but I

Re: [EVDL] Ford F-150 Reveal - Great for everyone!

2021-05-22 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 22 May 2021 at 12:58, Lee Hart via EV wrote: > Vehicles doing things you'll never do, in places you'll never drive. Keith Bradsher quoted someone in the auto business in "High and Mighty, The Dangerous Rise of the Suv" (slightly paraphrased since I'm too lazy to dig out the book right

Re: [EVDL] Ford F-150 Reveal - Great for everyone!

2021-05-22 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 22 May 2021 at 17:09, Peri Hartman via EV wrote: > Half of leaf would be 87.5, so i-miev is 70% larger than that. I wonder if somehow Willie got his hands on authentic Japanese-market Imievs. If memory serves, and someone please correct me if it doesn't, the Japanese market Imiev really

Re: [EVDL] Ford F-150 Reveal - Great for everyone!

2021-05-22 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 22 May 2021 at 17:52, j wickes1 via EV wrote: > And power your house from the dryer plug when the power goes out, minimal > modifications required. I hope you're joking. There's a reason that such things are called "suicide cables." However, standby power for your house is a fine idea,

Re: [EVDL] Ford F-150 Reveal - Great for everyone!

2021-05-22 Thread Lee Hart via EV
Peri Hartman via EV wrote: That's actually a pretty good option for someone who wants a cheap city EV, but it isn't much smaller than the leaf. I'm thinking of something that fits in a motorcycle space or sideways in my driveway. It's really sad that Rick Woodbury has never been able to get his

Re: [EVDL] Ford F-150 Reveal - Great for everyone!

2021-05-22 Thread Lee Hart via EV
Peri Hartman via EV wrote: I really wish someone would sell and service a safe "neighborhood" vehicle. Something that holds 2 people, has a high safety rating on streets up to 30mph, and has a range of, say, 30 miles. So do I. It would cover 90% of my driving needs. I've had to build my own

Re: [EVDL] Ford F-150 Reveal - Great for everyone!

2021-05-22 Thread j wickes1 via EV
ired. This will be much fun for all! enjoy! john :-) -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20210522/8a57865d/attachment.html> ___ Address mess

Re: [EVDL] Ford F-150 Reveal - Great for everyone!

2021-05-22 Thread Gary Krysztopik via EV
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Re: [EVDL] autopilot failure again

2021-05-22 Thread paul dove via EV
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Re: [EVDL] Ford F-150 Reveal - Great for everyone!

2021-05-22 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
Smaller, for sure. But not even close to half. Leaf 175" i-miev 148" Half of leaf would be 87.5, so i-miev is 70% larger than that. By comparison, the smart ev is 106". Peri << Annoyed by leaf blowers ? https://quietcleanseattle.org/ >> -- Original Message -- From: "Willie via EV"

Re: [EVDL] Ford F-150 Reveal - Great for everyone!

2021-05-22 Thread Charles Galpin via EV
ce a safe "neighborhood" vehicle. > Something that holds 2 people, has a high safety rating on streets up to > 30mph, and has a range of, say, 30 miles. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/a

Re: [EVDL] Ford F-150 Reveal - Great for everyone!

2021-05-22 Thread Willie via EV
On 5/22/21 10:18 AM, Peri Hartman via EV wrote: That's actually a pretty good option for someone who wants a cheap city EV, but it isn't much smaller than the leaf. I'm thinking of something that fits in a motorcycle space or sideways in my driveway. Without having measured or searched out

Re: [EVDL] Ford F-150 Reveal - Great for everyone!

2021-05-22 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
That's actually a pretty good option for someone who wants a cheap city EV, but it isn't much smaller than the leaf. I'm thinking of something that fits in a motorcycle space or sideways in my driveway. Peri << Annoyed by leaf blowers ? https://quietcleanseattle.org/ >> -- Original

Re: [EVDL] Ford F-150 Reveal - Great for everyone!

2021-05-22 Thread Willie via EV
On 5/22/21 9:53 AM, Peri Hartman via EV wrote: I really wish someone would sell and service a safe "neighborhood" vehicle. Something that holds 2 people, has a high safety rating on streets up to 30mph, and has a range of, say, 30 miles. AFAIK, a used imiev is your best bet. They are

Re: [EVDL] Ford F-150 Reveal - Great for everyone!

2021-05-22 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
I really wish someone would sell and service a safe "neighborhood" vehicle. Something that holds 2 people, has a high safety rating on streets up to 30mph, and has a range of, say, 30 miles. China makes lots of vehicles like this but I have no idea on their safety and I doubt they can be

Re: [EVDL] Ford F-150 Reveal - Great for everyone!

2021-05-22 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 21 May 2021 at 21:22, Jim Walls via EV wrote: > Because you didn't want to drive some postage stamp vehicle... > Or you like me NEED a full size truck... Tradespeople in every other major industrial democracy do fine with trucks as little as half the weight of our pickups. US prickups carry