Re: [EVDL] "H2 is lighter" (Was OT: fuel cell mining truck)

2021-09-10 Thread Jay Summet via EV
Also, H2 is VERY good at escaping things. The atoms are so small. So while this means it's hard to build a perfect containment system for it, it also means that if you only have a very small leakit's hard to build up in a normal (not passive house level of sealing) building, as it can

Re: [EVDL] "H2 is lighter" (Was OT: fuel cell mining truck)

2021-09-10 Thread Willie via EV
On 9/10/21 10:52 AM, EVDL Administrator via EV wrote: On 10 Sep 2021 at 5:04, Peri Hartman via EV wrote: Maybe the Mirai tank system is really tight. Otherwise, I'm really curious: why haven't there been any reported H2 explosions ? Could it be partly because they've sold only about 8,500 of

Re: [EVDL] "H2 is lighter" (Was OT: fuel cell mining truck)

2021-09-10 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 10 Sep 2021 at 5:04, Peri Hartman via EV wrote: > Maybe the Mirai tank system is really tight. Otherwise, I'm really > curious: why haven't there been any reported H2 explosions ? Could it be partly because they've sold only about 8,500 of them since 2015? Low sales volume means fewer

Re: [EVDL] "H2 is lighter" (Was OT: fuel cell mining truck)

2021-09-10 Thread Bill Woodcock via EV
> On Sep 10, 2021, at 3:05 PM, Willie via EV wrote: > Perhaps it escapes earth's gravity? Not possible without accelerating it to 11.2km/sec. And doing that does indeed create a lot of environmental problems. -Bill -- next part -- A

Re: [EVDL] "H2 is lighter" (Was OT: fuel cell mining truck)

2021-09-10 Thread Peter Eckhoff via EV
ons ? > > > > Peri > > > > << Annoyed by leaf blowers ? https://quietcleanseattle.org/ >> > > > > -- Original Message ------ > > From: "Bill Dube via EV" > > To: ev@lists.evdl.org > > Cc: "Bill Dube" > > Sent:

Re: [EVDL] "H2 is lighter" (Was OT: fuel cell mining truck)

2021-09-10 Thread Willie via EV
On 9/10/21 7:31 AM, Bill Dube via EV wrote: There is no doubt that the H2 systems, including the tank, are thoroughly leak checked. H2 is straightforward to detect in minute quantities. However, the world is an imperfect place. Screws fall out. Leaks occur. I am surprised that they omit

Re: [EVDL] "H2 is lighter" (Was OT: fuel cell mining truck)

2021-09-10 Thread Bill Dube via EV
" Sent: 09-Sep-21 20:00:22 Subject: [EVDL] "H2 is lighter" (Was OT: fuel cell mining truck) Indeed, H2 is very buoyant in air and rises extremely quickly. However, this means that it collects and concentrates at the high points of the ceiling in an enclosed space. Typically, the

Re: [EVDL] "H2 is lighter" (Was OT: fuel cell mining truck)

2021-09-10 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
there been any reported H2 explosions ? Peri << Annoyed by leaf blowers ? https://quietcleanseattle.org/ >> -- Original Message -- From: "Bill Dube via EV" To: ev@lists.evdl.org Cc: "Bill Dube" Sent: 09-Sep-21 20:00:22 Subject: [EVDL] "H2 is lig

[EVDL] "H2 is lighter" (Was OT: fuel cell mining truck)

2021-09-09 Thread Bill Dube via EV
Indeed, H2 is very buoyant in air and rises extremely quickly. However, this means that it collects and concentrates at the high points of the ceiling in an enclosed space. Typically, the garage door opener is also in that space, as well as light fixtures, etc. The garage door opener has