Re: [EVDL] Advice on new battery pack (Second thoughts)

2018-07-17 Thread Lee Hart via EV
Roger Daisley via EV wrote: Reading thru the prior comments (which I really appreciate) I am starting to wonder if I'm getting ahead of the cost curve. Maybe I should carefully consider if lithium i.e., Leaf packs, is the way to go, at this time? Another set of floodies is about $3000 and good

Re: [EVDL] Advice on new battery pack (Second thoughts)

2018-07-17 Thread Willie via EV
On 07/17/2018 12:23 AM, ken via EV wrote: On Fri, June 22, 2018 11:38 pm, Roger Daisley via EV wrote: Reading thru the prior comments (which I really appreciate) I am starting to wonder if I'm getting ahead of the cost curve. Maybe I should carefully consider if lithium i.e., Leaf packs,

Re: [EVDL] Advice on new battery pack (Second thoughts)

2018-07-16 Thread ken via EV
On Fri, June 22, 2018 11:38 pm, Roger Daisley via EV wrote: > Reading thru the prior comments (which I really appreciate) I am starting > to wonder if I'm getting ahead of the cost curve. Maybe I should carefully > consider if lithium i.e., Leaf packs, is the way to go, at this time? > Another

Re: [EVDL] Advice on new battery pack

2018-06-27 Thread Lawrence Rhodes via EV
With the availability of Leaf battery modules that might be one direction.  Lawrence Rhodes -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL:

Re: [EVDL] Advice on new battery pack

2018-06-23 Thread Matt Awesome via EV
> Where? http://car-part.com <-- From a junkyard/dealer. Find one near you else it's a pallet to ship. There's whole packs in there $1500-2000. Or Ebay. ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub

Re: [EVDL] Advice on new battery pack

2018-06-23 Thread Mark Grasser via EV
I purchased 7,500 kw (168 x 45) for about $1,200.00 through EBay. Supplied the end plates and water hoses too. I think next time I will just buy a salvage Volt and sell off the rest, then scrap it. Sincerely, Mark Grasser - Subject: Re: [EVDL] Advice on new battery pack On Fri Jun 22 21:57:41

Re: [EVDL] Advice on new battery pack

2018-06-23 Thread John Lussmyer via EV
On Fri Jun 22 21:57:41 PDT 2018 ev@lists.evdl.org said: >You can get 16kw worth of Volt packs for under $2k without shopping >around much or lucking out. Where? -- Bobcats and Cougars, oh my! http://john.casadelgato.com/Pets ___ UNSUBSCRIBE:

Re: [EVDL] Advice on new battery pack (Second thoughts)

2018-06-23 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
-- From: "Roger Daisley via EV" To: ev@lists.evdl.org Cc: "Roger Daisley" Sent: 22-Jun-18 9:38:08 PM Subject: [EVDL] Advice on new battery pack (Second thoughts) Reading thru the prior comments (which I really appreciate) I am starting to wonder if I'm getting ahead of the

Re: [EVDL] Advice on new battery pack

2018-06-23 Thread Matt Awesome via EV
> Reading thru the prior comments (which I really appreciate) I am starting to > wonder if I'm getting ahead of the cost curve. I think you're at an ideal time to buy used lithiums. You can get 16kw worth of Volt packs for under $2k without shopping around much or lucking out. There is

[EVDL] Advice on new battery pack (Second thoughts)

2018-06-22 Thread Roger Daisley via EV
Reading thru the prior comments (which I really appreciate) I am starting to wonder if I'm getting ahead of the cost curve. Maybe I should carefully consider if lithium i.e., Leaf packs, is the way to go, at this time? Another set of floodies is about $3000 and good for four to five years. Maybe

Re: [EVDL] Advice on new battery pack

2018-06-22 Thread Jay Summet via EV
If you can buy a salvage/used Leaf pack, they can be very economical compared to Lead Acid (plus, they will give you better performance (more power to weight) and will last longer than a lead acid pack. So compare the price to buying 2 or 3 sets of floodies over time My Leaf modules only

[EVDL] Advice on new battery pack

2018-06-21 Thread John Lussmyer via EV
On Thu Jun 21 21:26:33 PDT 2018 ev@lists.evdl.org said: >Another set of floodies is about $3000 and good for four to five years. >Maybe by that time the cost for lithium will be substantially lower. A used Leaf pack should be less than that, and last longer. Likely more capacity as well. --

Re: [EVDL] Advice on new battery pack

2018-06-21 Thread John Lussmyer via EV
On Thu Jun 21 20:23:39 PDT 2018 ev@lists.evdl.org said: >3 modules in parallel is only 180ah at best, probably more like 150ah. > >John, don't you have a Zilla 2K in the truck? > >To pull even 1000 amps from those cells would be over 5C, let alone 2000! I have 2 1/2 Leaf packs, 40 series sets of

Re: [EVDL] Advice on new battery pack

2018-06-21 Thread Alan Arrison via EV
3 modules in parallel is only 180ah at best, probably more like 150ah. John, don't you have a Zilla 2K in the truck? To pull even 1000 amps from those cells would be over 5C, let alone 2000! Al On 6/20/2018 11:53 PM, John Lussmyer via EV wrote: On Wed Jun 20 19:00:25 PDT 2018

Re: [EVDL] Advice on new battery pack

2018-06-21 Thread Tom Keenan via EV
I have an old Zivan Charger (1.2/2.2 kW switchable, 120v input) that was set up for a 54 cell lead acid pack. Tops out around 2.45 volts per cell (132.5 volts) if you would like to use it. Can be reprogrammed by a shop in Sacramento if needed. Located in the Bay Area. It was used in an old

Re: [EVDL] Advice on new battery pack

2018-06-20 Thread Cor van de Water via EV
I have 2 full Leaf packs in my truck. Since my motor controller does both driving and charging (and regen, which is essentially charging from the motor) there are no diodes, the two packs are always in parallel. I did put a 200a fuse in each parallel string so that a failure in one pack or a short

Re: [EVDL] Advice on new battery pack

2018-06-20 Thread John Lussmyer via EV
On Wed Jun 20 19:00:25 PDT 2018 ev@lists.evdl.org said: >> I should mention that a Leaf has 48 modules ina pack. So if you bought a >> whole pack, you could put 3 in parallel, and have a few extras. > >That sounds like a good move. The Leaf pack is designed for high voltage >and low current.

Re: [EVDL] Advice on new battery pack

2018-06-20 Thread Lee Hart via EV
John Lussmyer via EV wrote: On Wed Jun 20 14:59:53 PDT 2018 ev@lists.evdl.org said: Since each modules charges to about 8.2v, you could use 14 of them in series for a 115v pack. You'd probably want at least 2 in parallel as well for range and current needs. Each one is nominally about 60AH (my

Re: [EVDL] Advice on new battery pack

2018-06-20 Thread Cor van de Water via EV
: John Lussmyer via EV Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2018 3:06 PM To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List Cc: John Lussmyer Subject: [EVDL] Advice on new battery pack On Wed Jun 20 14:59:53 PDT 2018 ev@lists.evdl.org said: >Since each modules charges to about 8.2v, you could use 14 of them in ser

[EVDL] Advice on new battery pack

2018-06-20 Thread John Lussmyer via EV
On Wed Jun 20 14:59:53 PDT 2018 ev@lists.evdl.org said: >Since each modules charges to about 8.2v, you could use 14 of them in series >for a 115v pack. >You'd probably want at least 2 in parallel as well for range and current needs. >Each one is nominally about 60AH (my older used ones are more

[EVDL] Advice on new battery pack

2018-06-20 Thread John Lussmyer via EV
On Wed Jun 20 13:46:25 PDT 2018 ev@lists.evdl.org said: >Curtis 1231C Controller (120vdc & 500A max) > >Old battery pack: 16ea, 6v in series, 200AH Led-Acid batteries (96vdc >nominal) > >The prior performance was satisfactory for my rural use. Range, when new, >about 50 miles. Speed: easy 60 mph.

Re: [EVDL] Advice on new battery pack

2018-06-20 Thread Gary Krysztopik via EV
Look for used but tested Leaf cells (or Volt, Tesla, etc.) on eBay. On Wed, Jun 20, 2018, 1:46 PM Roger Daisley via EV wrote: > Need a couple of suggests to source a replacement for my exhausted battery > pack: > > 1986 VW Cabriolet > > NetGain Impulse9 DC motor > > Curtis 1231C Controller

[EVDL] Advice on new battery pack

2018-06-20 Thread Roger Daisley via EV
Need a couple of suggests to source a replacement for my exhausted battery pack: 1986 VW Cabriolet NetGain Impulse9 DC motor Curtis 1231C Controller (120vdc & 500A max) Old battery pack: 16ea, 6v in series, 200AH Led-Acid batteries (96vdc nominal) The prior performance was satisfactory for