Re: [EVDL] EVLN: pavegen.com tiles charge EV from human foot traffic (v)

2015-06-25 Thread tomw via EV
Yes, I agree with pavement the deformation is elastic so no net energy transfer. I don't think you need larger displacement though. The electromagnetic force is very strong so you can get significant energy from small displacement. But of course how much will depend on the actual mechanism the

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: pavegen.com tiles charge EV from human foot traffic (v)

2015-06-25 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
-- From: tomw via EV ev@lists.evdl.org To: ev@lists.evdl.org Sent: 25-Jun-15 12:24:17 PM Subject: Re: [EVDL] EVLN: pavegen.com tiles charge EV from human foot traffic (v) Yes, I agree with pavement the deformation is elastic so no net energy transfer. I don't think you need larger displacement

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: pavegen.com tiles charge EV from human foot traffic (v)

2015-06-25 Thread tomw via EV
You are putting energy into the pavement when you walk pavegen tiles or not. You apply force to the pavement when you transfer your body weight from one foot to the foot hitting the pavement. The bonds in the molecules making up the pavement supply a reaction force by stretching ever so slightly,

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: pavegen.com tiles charge EV from human foot traffic (v)

2015-06-25 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
@lists.evdl.org To: ev@lists.evdl.org Sent: 25-Jun-15 8:16:13 AM Subject: Re: [EVDL] EVLN: pavegen.com tiles charge EV from human foot traffic (v) You are putting energy into the pavement when you walk pavegen tiles or not. You apply force to the pavement when you transfer your body weight from one foot

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: pavegen.com tiles charge EV from human foot traffic (v)

2015-06-25 Thread Lee Hart via EV
tomw via EV wrote: You are putting energy into the pavement when you walk pavegen tiles or not. Yes; but you get almost all that energy back. The pavement is staying within its elastic limit, and bounces back to its original shape -- i.e. it is not permanently deforming. Energy is force

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: pavegen.com tiles charge EV from human foot traffic (v)

2015-06-25 Thread tomw via EV
/It's irrelevant to study the amount of displacement. The important fact is that what ever energy is produced came from a person's expenditure! I think, other than for a novel experience, most people would abhor trudging around on energy sucking pavement./ Abhor it? Really? I can see abhoring

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: pavegen.com tiles charge EV from human foot traffic (v)

2015-06-25 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
Message -- From: tomw via EV ev@lists.evdl.org To: ev@lists.evdl.org Sent: 25-Jun-15 5:55:00 PM Subject: Re: [EVDL] EVLN: pavegen.com tiles charge EV from human foot traffic (v) /It's irrelevant to study the amount of displacement. The important fact is that what ever energy is produced

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: pavegen.com tiles charge EV from human foot traffic (v)

2015-06-23 Thread paul dove via EV
Why charge cars? They should do this anyway to run the lights From: brucedp5 via EV ev@lists.evdl.org To: ev@lists.evdl.org Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2015 6:46 AM Subject: [EVDL] EVLN: pavegen.com tiles charge EV from human foot traffic (v) http://www.autoevolution.com/news/can-you

[EVDL] EVLN: pavegen.com tiles charge EV from human foot traffic (v)

2015-06-23 Thread brucedp5 via EV
http://www.autoevolution.com/news/can-you-charge-a-tesla-model-s-through-footsteps-apparently-yes-video-96736.html Can You Charge a Tesla Model S Through Footsteps? Apparently, Yes - Video by Tudor Rus 16th June 2015 [image

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: pavegen.com tiles charge EV from human foot traffic (v)

2015-06-23 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
for those who aren't walking? (Ok, I realize the energy can be used any way. ) Peri -- Original Message -- From: EVDL Administrator via EV ev@lists.evdl.org To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List ev@lists.evdl.org Sent: 23-Jun-15 7:45:32 PM Subject: Re: [EVDL] EVLN: pavegen.com tiles charge EV

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: pavegen.com tiles charge EV from human foot traffic (v)

2015-06-23 Thread Cor van de Water via EV
[mailto:ev-boun...@lists.evdl.org] On Behalf Of brucedp5 via EV Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2015 4:46 AM To: ev@lists.evdl.org Subject: [EVDL] EVLN: pavegen.com tiles charge EV from human foot traffic (v) http://www.autoevolution.com/news/can-you-charge-a-tesla-model-s-through-footsteps-apparently