Re: [EVDL] Postal service vans catch fire. Should be replaced by Electric.

2020-07-08 Thread Mark Abramowitz via EV
Ah, rural. Got it! - Mark Sent from my Fuel Cell powered iPhone > On Jul 8, 2020, at 2:58 PM, Lee Hart via EV wrote: > > Peter VanDerWal via EV wrote: >> Not sure about way back then, but the average Rural postal route these days >> is around 45 miles. I believe the mail Comuta-Vans had a

Re: [EVDL] Postal service vans catch fire. Should be replaced by Electric.

2020-07-08 Thread Lee Hart via EV
Peter VanDerWal via EV wrote: Not sure about way back then, but the average Rural postal route these days is around 45 miles. I believe the mail Comuta-Vans had a daily usable range of around 25-35 miles. Lee (and a few others) would know for sure. Hi Peter, 25-30 miles is about right for

Re: [EVDL] Postal service vans catch fire. Should be replaced by Electric.

2020-07-08 Thread Lee Hart via EV
Mr. Sharkey via EV wrote: Similarly, I think that the six SCT Rabbit conversions that were in fleet service for the city of Portland, OR in the 1980's got a similar reception from the city employees that were "forced" to drive them... Designing ~any~ vehicle to be difficultly different from

Re: [EVDL] Postal service vans catch fire. Should be replaced

2020-07-08 Thread Mark Laity-Snyder via EV
I see similar attitudes of resistance to change working for USPS as their commissioning agent for retrofitting HVAC projects.  The engineers design the same systems they had before, just slightly more efficient.  They could totally insulate the buildings, seal all the leaks, use heat recovery

Re: [EVDL] Postal service vans catch fire. Should be replaced by Electric.

2020-07-08 Thread Lee Hart via EV
Mark Abramowitz via EV wrote: Short range? I thought that USPS vehicles actually don’t go many miles. At the time my dad worked there, the postal vans were only used for "mounted" (rural) routes, which could be quite long in sparsely populated areas. Urban routes were generally done on

Re: [EVDL] Postal service vans catch fire. Should be replaced by Electric.

2020-07-08 Thread Peter VanDerWal via EV
Not sure about way back then, but the average Rural postal route these days is around 45 miles. I believe the mail Comuta-Vans had a daily usable range of around 25-35 miles. Lee (and a few others) would know for sure. July 8, 2020 11:45 AM, "Mark Abramowitz via EV" wrote: > Short range? >

Re: [EVDL] Postal service vans catch fire. Should be replaced by Electric.

2020-07-08 Thread Mark Abramowitz via EV
Short range? I thought that USPS vehicles actually don’t go many miles. - Mark Sent from my Fuel Cell powered iPhone > On Jul 8, 2020, at 11:20 AM, Lee Hart via EV wrote: > > Lawrence Rhodes via EV wrote: >> I was around when a pilot EV program in Alameda was scrapped because the >>

Re: [EVDL] Postal service vans catch fire. Should be replaced by Electric.

2020-07-08 Thread Mr. Sharkey via EV
Similarly, I think that the six SCT Rabbit conversions that were in fleet service for the city of Portland, OR in the 1980's got a similar reception from the city employees that were "forced" to drive them. It was part of a federally-funded study, and drivers were expected to complete a

Re: [EVDL] Postal service vans catch fire. Should be replaced by Electric.

2020-07-08 Thread Lee Hart via EV
Lawrence Rhodes via EV wrote: I was around when a pilot EV program in Alameda was scrapped because the postal workers wouldn't plug in the vehicles. They all died in a week. That's one story. We dismantled the chargers. Vans were auctioned off. Here is the result:

[EVDL] Postal service vans catch fire. Should be replaced by Electric.

2020-07-08 Thread Lawrence Rhodes via EV
I was around when a pilot EV program in Alameda was scrapped because the postal workers wouldn't plug in the vehicles. They all died in a week. That's one story. We dismantled the chargers. Vans were auctioned off. Here is the result: