Re: [EVDL] Time to build a lithium battery from 18650 or 26xxx

2019-05-15 Thread Lawrence Rhodes via EV
David is correct. Lots of junk. However if you question or possibly call the vendor you can get a better sense of their honesty. The $2,400 worth of Valence batteries I got for $200 was a useful bargain. I was afraid that the sag I got from the San Francisco hills would croak them carrying m

Re: [EVDL] Time to build a lithium battery from 18650 or 26xxx

2019-05-15 Thread jkenny23 via EV
Those $100 listings as others have mentioned are used cells. You'll find that based on their tested capacity they're not a very good deal also. As I mentioned, the market rate is about $180/kWH for new cells, sometimes you can find a better deal on new old stock or bulk buys. I try and maintain a

Re: [EVDL] Time to build a lithium battery from 18650 or 26xxx

2019-05-15 Thread Paul Compton via EV
Check out Jehu Garcia on YT. He often organises bulk buys of cells. On Wed, 15 May 2019 at 15:38, EVDL Administrator via EV wrote: > > On 15 May 2019 at 8:12, Lawrence Rhodes via EV wrote: > > > New and pre owned cells. Not sure I would trust pre owned. > > You may not be sure, but I'm positive I

Re: [EVDL] Time to build a lithium battery from 18650 or 26xxx

2019-05-15 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 15 May 2019 at 8:12, Lawrence Rhodes via EV wrote: > New and pre owned cells. Not sure I would trust pre owned. You may not be sure, but I'm positive I wouldn't. You don't know where those cells have been. These days, both Ebay and Amazon are so overrun with garbage and counterfeit produc

Re: [EVDL] Time to build a lithium battery from 18650 or 26xxx

2019-05-15 Thread Lawrence Rhodes via EV
Go on eBay. 100 cells. $100. Here is a search. New and pre owned cells. Not sure I would trust pre owned. https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=100+lithium+cells Lawrence Rhodes ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.e

Re: [EVDL] Time to build a lithium battery from 18650 or 26xxx

2019-05-14 Thread evtlfp20 via EV
On 2019-05-13 16:22, jkenny23 via EV wrote: theres lots of YT vids about spot welding with simples nachines Where are you finding cells for $1 each? Going rate for 18650s (new) is $180/kWH or so, which for a typical 2.6AH cell would be $1.73. Li-Ion (and related sub-chemistries, e.g. NMC, LMO

Re: [EVDL] Time to build a lithium battery from 18650 or 26xxx

2019-05-13 Thread jkenny23 via EV
Where are you finding cells for $1 each? Going rate for 18650s (new) is $180/kWH or so, which for a typical 2.6AH cell would be $1.73. Li-Ion (and related sub-chemistries, e.g. NMC, LMO (uncommon), LCO, etc.) are 3.7V, and are higher energy density but less "safe". LiFePO4 is 3.2V, and is consid

Re: [EVDL] Time to build a lithium battery from 18650 or 26xxx

2019-05-13 Thread evtlfp20 via EV
I was into this and found out this very complicated , there are 27ah cells https://www.techdirectclub.com/800-watt-hour-solar-ev-scooter-backup-battery-pack-8-cells-lithium-ion/ and theres other on there. On 2019-05-12 23:04, Lawrence Rhodes via EV wrote: Prices are around a dollar a cell.

[EVDL] Time to build a lithium battery from 18650 or 26xxx

2019-05-12 Thread Lawrence Rhodes via EV
Prices are around a dollar a cell. What is a good voltage 3.7 or 3.2. What's the danger? What are the benefits?. Soldering tabs vs welding. I have seen the larger cells for two dollars.  I have several projects that need. Batteries. Any videos or books that might be a good learning experience? A