Re: [EVDL] What You Need To Know To Wire A Garage EVSE

2016-03-08 Thread David Kerzel via EV
The UL listing for the EVSE will require hard wiring or allow a plug in connection. A plug in connection does not guaranty a ground so extra circuits are needed to insure there is a ground for the car. Older 240 volt units all required hard wiring but some new ones allow a plug. Do it wrong and

Re: [EVDL] What You Need To Know To Wire A Garage EVSE

2016-03-08 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 8 Mar 2016 at 10:39, Jan Steinman via EV wrote: > Can you point me to the page and paragraph in the National Electrical Code > where it says such a thing is illegal? Because I canTMt find it in my copy. > :-) If you mean your suicide cord, you're right, the NEC is generally mute about stuff

Re: [EVDL] What You Need To Know To Wire A Garage EVSE

2016-03-08 Thread Jan Steinman via EV
On 2016-03-07, at 15:48, Jim Walls wrote: > > That is almost guaranteed to be illegal and HIGHLY dangerous. Can you point me to the page and paragraph in the National Electrical Code where it says such a thing is illegal? Because I can’t find it in my copy. :-) But your point

Re: [EVDL] What You Need To Know To Wire A Garage EVSE

2016-03-08 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
One more thing about not meeting code. Check your insurance policy. If you make a claim for damage and that damage was caused by something illegal, e.g. not to code, they might be able to opt out of paying. Peri -- Original Message -- From: "EVDL Administrator via EV"

Re: [EVDL] What You Need To Know To Wire A Garage EVSE

2016-03-08 Thread Cor van de Water via EV
Jan, At a minimum, use an appropriate interlock on your service panel. They can even be made DIY from a flat piece of stock and this shows that you at least attempt to make it safe. For an example see this Ebay listing of an interlock to create a transfer switch on a GE Panel:

Re: [EVDL] What You Need To Know To Wire A Garage EVSE

2016-03-07 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 7 Mar 2016 at 14:36, Jan Steinman via EV wrote: > Y'mean like the cord and plug I wired to go into the dryer outlet¦ with a > 15 kW generator on the other end? :-) OK, now THAT'S a hazard. I'm pretty middle of the road on electrical safety - not careless, but not a nervous nellie either.

Re: [EVDL] What You Need To Know To Wire A Garage EVSE

2016-03-07 Thread Jim Walls via EV
On 3/7/2016 14:36, Jan Steinman via EV wrote: Y’mean like the cord and plug I wired to go into the dryer outlet… with a 15 kW generator on the other end? :-) I am careful to follow a certain sequence that begins with throwing the main breaker and genset breaker, then plugging the plug into

Re: [EVDL] What You Need To Know To Wire A Garage EVSE

2016-03-07 Thread Jan Steinman via EV
> From: EVDL Administrator via EV > > Nor do I see much hazard in adding a cord and plug. Y’mean like the cord and plug I wired to go into the dryer outlet… with a 15 kW generator on the other end? :-) I am careful to follow a certain sequence that begins with throwing the